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Post by axegas on Jan 28, 2019 11:10:14 GMT
Mutual termination so it cost us nothing. In fact I'd be willing to bet that GC is on significantly less than DC who was our highest paid manager ever. We haven't replaced Stewart either, which also saves us some wages. We SHOULD have enough for at least a couple of loans, I'd hazard a guess that it's finding the right player to sign on the dotted line that's proving to be more challenging. It shouldn't matter anyway as they aren't considered part of the playing budget (I'm assuming btw, unless someone can tell me I'm wrong?) I'm just f*cking sick of the excuses/lies from this club. It absolutely reeks from every direction. Excuse 1: We are getting a new screen for the stadium. Excuse 2: We are going to put in new seating. Excuse 3: Seating is delayed, completely not our fault. Excuse 4: Confidentially agreements, I can't say anything. Excuse 5: *board in hiding* Excuse 6: We've maxed out our playing budget. Excuse 7: We need to get players out, to get players in Excuse 8: TV isn't here still, old one is broken. It's also not our fault, its someone else again. Excuse 9: We can't make a donation to the club as part of the budget because we don't want the supporters club to feel obligated to do the same Excuse 10: We were working on something regarding stadium & training ground, can't say what, but it feel through. No ask us because we wont tell you. Excuse 11: DC wasn't working out, we will wait for CVs to come to us, that's how it works these days. We won't appoint someone until 2019. Excuse/Application for job 12: I know this league inside out, I know what we can get to improve Bristol Rovers Excuse 13: I think the stadium & training ground is fine, better than Sheffield Wednesday's training facilities. Excuse 14: Budget is fine, we agreed on the budget needed *in the mean time, we make the squad smaller by letting yet more players go for free/loans* Excuse 15: It's difficult because of the position we're in Absolute bollocks from GC & the board. I'm not sure on this myself but I was under the impression that the FFP SCMP states that L1 clubs can only spend 60% of their turnover on wages, this includes all staff at the club not just the playing side. Personally, I'm going to hold off from the inquisition until the January transfer window is over and everything is said and done. The last couple of years, business has been done late with the likes of Colkett, McBurnie, Lumley, Sweeney, Craig and Bennett coming into the club so I'm expecting the same once again. It's not good enough though that thus far no signings have been made, I'd certainly say that. I believe on the new screen front, it's neither an excuse or lie from the club, the screen itself is at the stadium ready to be installed but the frame hasn't been delivered yet. TG has addressed this on twitter and is working hard to get it up and running.
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Post by markczgas on Jan 28, 2019 11:14:45 GMT
Is there any reason why we can't look at players from the south to increase our chances of signing them, or does our H of R not know any? Apart from City and Plymouth, there are no comparable clubs where we can get players from that would be in our budget, even City players are on upwards of £8k per week. A Cardiff scholar would be in our budget and Swansea's lot are still on premier league wages. I don't know what players are in the Southampton academy at the moment and we know all about Sam Surridge at Bournemouth, but there appears to be a stumbling block there too, or we just don't want him. The one player we missed out on this year was Conor Chaplin, a loan + £300k buy in Jan was the deal Pompey wanted. Should have gone in for him. Bristol is a footballing backwater really so we have to be an attractive proposition, which is where the likes of City, Cardiff and Swansea have done over the years by improving their infrastructure. People keep throwing lines like, how can Accrington and Bury attract players? Well look at their location on a map and you will understand why. If a young lad gets let go from say Everton, there are a plethora of clubs around where he currently lives where he can go and make a living at without moving and living in an area with a significant cost of living difference. Glad we didn't sign him. another average (at best) short-ass L1 player.
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Post by Gassy on Jan 28, 2019 11:27:41 GMT
It shouldn't matter anyway as they aren't considered part of the playing budget (I'm assuming btw, unless someone can tell me I'm wrong?) I'm just f*cking sick of the excuses/lies from this club. It absolutely reeks from every direction. Excuse 1: We are getting a new screen for the stadium. Excuse 2: We are going to put in new seating. Excuse 3: Seating is delayed, completely not our fault. Excuse 4: Confidentially agreements, I can't say anything. Excuse 5: *board in hiding* Excuse 6: We've maxed out our playing budget. Excuse 7: We need to get players out, to get players in Excuse 8: TV isn't here still, old one is broken. It's also not our fault, its someone else again. Excuse 9: We can't make a donation to the club as part of the budget because we don't want the supporters club to feel obligated to do the same Excuse 10: We were working on something regarding stadium & training ground, can't say what, but it feel through. No ask us because we wont tell you. Excuse 11: DC wasn't working out, we will wait for CVs to come to us, that's how it works these days. We won't appoint someone until 2019. Excuse/Application for job 12: I know this league inside out, I know what we can get to improve Bristol Rovers Excuse 13: I think the stadium & training ground is fine, better than Sheffield Wednesday's training facilities. Excuse 14: Budget is fine, we agreed on the budget needed *in the mean time, we make the squad smaller by letting yet more players go for free/loans* Excuse 15: It's difficult because of the position we're in Absolute bollocks from GC & the board. I'm not sure on this myself but I was under the impression that the FFP SCMP states that L1 clubs can only spend 60% of their turnover on wages, this includes all staff at the club not just the playing side. Personally, I'm going to hold off from the inquisition until the January transfer window is over and everything is said and done. The last couple of years, business has been done late with the likes of Colkett, McBurnie, Lumley, Sweeney, Craig and Bennett coming into the club so I'm expecting the same once again. It's not good enough though that thus far no signings have been made, I'd certainly say that. I believe on the new screen front, it's neither an excuse or lie from the club, the screen itself is at the stadium ready to be installed but the frame hasn't been delivered yet. TG has addressed this on twitter and is working hard to get it up and running. Is it all wages then? I assumed it was playing budget, but thanks for the correction. If you are indeed right though, then it makes my previous point even stronger. We do seem to do business very late, but what if for once, we actually signed some players early in January, maybe we wouldn't have to panic buy & maybe we'd actually pick up points against Burton/Accrington/Wycombe - all winnable games but we came out with 2 points. Some signings could have us out of relegation, but instead we're buried 3 points in, with games against Peterborough & Pompey away coming up. Fantastic! And your final point on the TV screen, the frame hasn't been delivered, so it is an excuse. How are we the only club in the world who constantly get basic things right? If it happens once, fair enough, but it happens too often to us to keep getting bad luck.
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Post by gashead1981 on Jan 28, 2019 11:28:40 GMT
Apart from City and Plymouth, there are no comparable clubs where we can get players from that would be in our budget, even City players are on upwards of £8k per week. A Cardiff scholar would be in our budget and Swansea's lot are still on premier league wages. I don't know what players are in the Southampton academy at the moment and we know all about Sam Surridge at Bournemouth, but there appears to be a stumbling block there too, or we just don't want him. The one player we missed out on this year was Conor Chaplin, a loan + £300k buy in Jan was the deal Pompey wanted. Should have gone in for him. Bristol is a footballing backwater really so we have to be an attractive proposition, which is where the likes of City, Cardiff and Swansea have done over the years by improving their infrastructure. People keep throwing lines like, how can Accrington and Bury attract players? Well look at their location on a map and you will understand why. If a young lad gets let go from say Everton, there are a plethora of clubs around where he currently lives where he can go and make a living at without moving and living in an area with a significant cost of living difference. Glad we didn't sign him. another average (at best) short-ass L1 player. Scored 8 this year so far, in an average L1 side, which is 8 more than our current short ass, and he does a lot more than know where the net is. I would be happy with that run rate at the moment.
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Post by pirate on Jan 28, 2019 11:35:07 GMT
Glad we didn't sign him. another average (at best) short-ass L1 player. Scored 8 this year so far, in an average L1 side, which is 8 more than our current short ass, and he does a lot more than know where the net is. I would be happy with that run rate at the moment. His goals to starts ratio so far in his career is good with 32 goals from 58 starts.
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Post by axegas on Jan 28, 2019 11:49:27 GMT
Glad we didn't sign him. another average (at best) short-ass L1 player. Scored 8 this year so far, in an average L1 side, which is 8 more than our current short ass, and he does a lot more than know where the net is. I would be happy with that run rate at the moment. I do wonder if that would have been less if he was with us bearing in mind it included a couple of penalties. I reckon Jakubiak or Reilly would have scored as many had they been in a mid table Coventry side and been afforded as many starts as he had. We need a big, powerful striker who will partner our existing strikers and get us goals but we also need to give our attackers better supply. Clarke and Upson aren’t naturally attacking-minded midfielders and are more likely to play the ball backwards than forwards. Lines and Sercombe have been off the boil this season and haven’t looked like the players that they have been in previous season. We our short of creativity on the wings too with Bennett underperforming and THD, however good a player he is, being more suited to leftback in my opinion. I don’t think that just a new striker will be the quick fix that we have been looking for, ideally we need to sign a winger and a CAM to go with it but I’m not optimistic.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2019 12:05:44 GMT
I know for a fact we have made an offer to Matty Palmer of Rotherham, on loan, and offered pretty much all his Championship wages, so we are trying. Its between us and another L1 club. 2 other clubs wanted him, but wouldn't pay the wages. He is a good L1 player, midfielder. You'd hope there are other irons in the fire though, ie a striker! This worries me slightly. Don’t get me wrong, it’s good that we’re spending some money on some talent, but Kyle Bennett is on 4k a week and that’s still a low championship level wage. Over 6 months that’s £100k. Palmer may well be on more than that. Incoming loan wages soon add up and could be an issue in summer when everyone is complaining we don’t have enough money to sign anyone but the bottom of the barrel again. At least with permanent signings you get the opportunity to sell at the end and recoup some losses. Do you any supporting evidence that bennett is on £4k a week?
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Post by Rovers 12th Man on Jan 28, 2019 12:11:20 GMT
After GCs interview today, I am even less confident of signing anyone. Other than a CB to cover for Menayese who very often doesn't even feature in the squad so not sure how that will improve us.
No hints that we are even close to signing the striker or winger we are crying out for.
We must be absolutely broke.
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Post by geddongas on Jan 28, 2019 12:12:51 GMT
This worries me slightly. Don’t get me wrong, it’s good that we’re spending some money on some talent, but Kyle Bennett is on 4k a week and that’s still a low championship level wage. Over 6 months that’s £100k. Palmer may well be on more than that. Incoming loan wages soon add up and could be an issue in summer when everyone is complaining we don’t have enough money to sign anyone but the bottom of the barrel again. At least with permanent signings you get the opportunity to sell at the end and recoup some losses. Do you any supporting evidence that bennett is on £4k a week? There or there abouts, anyway. I know because it’s been suggested in a number of threads and interviews that it took a decent wage to tempt him to us, and that ended up with him being one of the highest earners if not the highest earner at the club. I don’t know exactly what rodman and sercombe are on and if they hit below or surpass Bennett, but I thought the 4k mark was a fairly commonly accepted ballpark figure? I’ve definitely seen it stated with some confidence on a number of threads. Even if it is slightly less, the point was that wages add up to a substantial fee over a year, and championship level loanees take a substantial wage unless some agreement is reached with their parent club
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Post by Rod1883 on Jan 28, 2019 12:14:04 GMT
After GCs interview today, I am even less confident of signing anyone. Other than a CB to cover for Menayese who very often doesn't even feature in the squad so not sure how that will improve us. No hints that we are even close to signing the striker or winger we are crying out for. We must be absolutely broke.We'll be even more broke if/when we go down. As others and I have said before, I can't understand how going down will help the family recoup losses/get a return on their investment? I just hope we will get two or three that improve us in before the end of the window.
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Post by pirate on Jan 28, 2019 12:15:39 GMT
Are we being prepared for no real strengthening in this vital window?
Coughlan in today's Bristol Post:
He said: "I'll either add or I won't add, so there's no point in me being concerned.
"I'm trying to get players in but if I don't I'll just have to go with what I've got. These lads over the last eight, nine, 10 games have worked their socks off."
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Post by pirate on Jan 28, 2019 12:16:45 GMT
After GCs interview today, I am even less confident of signing anyone. Other than a CB to cover for Menayese who very often doesn't even feature in the squad so not sure how that will improve us. No hints that we are even close to signing the striker or winger we are crying out for. We must be absolutely broke. What a pathetic situation. Worrying times.
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Post by Forestgas7 on Jan 28, 2019 12:19:09 GMT
I can’t believe that interview. We should had a striker in on the 1st off jan maybe 2. Were so lacking quality up top it’s been clear to see since September
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Post by Gassy on Jan 28, 2019 12:26:26 GMT
Are we being prepared for no real strengthening in this vital window? Coughlan in today's Bristol Post: He said: "I'll either add or I won't add, so there's no point in me being concerned. "I'm trying to get players in but if I don't I'll just have to go with what I've got. These lads over the last eight, nine, 10 games have worked their socks off." What absolute sh*te. That was an absolutely embarrassing.
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Post by Raj Gas on Jan 28, 2019 12:32:28 GMT
Are we being prepared for no real strengthening in this vital window? Coughlan in today's Bristol Post: He said: "I'll either add or I won't add, so there's no point in me being concerned. "I'm trying to get players in but if I don't I'll just have to go with what I've got. These lads over the last eight, nine, 10 games have worked their socks off." What absolute sh*te. That was an absolutely embarrassing. For me the problem is we have no one with our interests at heart in the Management, either on the football side or behind the scenes. No one to stand up and say this needs to change or we need to tell the fans just what the position is.....................imho we have lost our club again!
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Post by Forestgas7 on Jan 28, 2019 12:34:06 GMT
The fact he says Wycombe was the only game he wasn’t happy with makes me laugh, where was he when we played burton then because that was just as bad as the Wycombe game.
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Post by z1zou on Jan 28, 2019 12:36:36 GMT
I'm assuming sacking DC has cost the board quite a bit financially, imo, if they given DC that money to buy a player or two we'd have a shot.
As it is today, I like GC, undoubtedly a decent coach, but as I questioned when appointed, can he be a good manager, can he get us players.. Jury is out and he has the next few days to prove me wrong. Mutual termination so it cost us nothing. In fact I'd be willing to bet that GC is on significantly less than DC who was our highest paid manager ever. We haven't replaced Stewart either, which also saves us some wages. We SHOULD have enough for at least a couple of loans, I'd hazard a guess that it's finding the right player to sign on the dotted line that's proving to be more challenging. I was under the impression that mutual termination just meant that DC wasn't paid up the rest of his Contract in full, but rather than resign and walk for nothing, some common ground was met. It would make zero sense for DC to have walked away for nothing, surely. I have no idea, I'm merely speculating and trying to adopt some sort of common sense
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Post by rosssgb on Jan 28, 2019 12:39:28 GMT
Why isn’t there an option for nothing at all?
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Post by pirate on Jan 28, 2019 12:40:52 GMT
We are a joke and an embarrassment in the market, we really are.
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Post by Wembley_Gas on Jan 28, 2019 12:47:08 GMT
With Broadbean and Mayo out we'll get one donkey in on loan , if the W-S-M ones aren't up to it I wonder if Branston wants another go?
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