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Post by stevek192 on Jan 2, 2020 11:10:54 GMT
I will start this report by immediately slating anybody who has already written off the Manager. We are supposed to be Bristol Rovers SUPPORTERS but in truth the reaction to yesterdays defeat by many on Facebook and on here and other sites is way worse than "the other lot" in their treatment of a Manager who has done wonders really transforming them from yearly relegation fight to definite challengers but at least they have given him plenty of chances!! Gasheads make no mistake it was always going to be a far from easy task to take over from a Manager who result wise had brought us a magnificent return in a year with a brand of football which though many disliked was the ONLY way you could play with the players we had. The obstacles which Coughlan faced are still there now but worsened by an injury list that would hit any team in the country. I don't care if we had appointed Steve Cotterell, Ian Holloway or ANother they would struggle with the task ahead because the players have all been playing to their limits within a strict defensive system which lots didn't like but was very effective. OK somebody comes in and plays exactly the same way and maintain results is that really what you want??
The bloke has had three games in a hectic period where there is only time to recover and go again- no time for coaching or for players to get over injuries and no transfers available until now anyway. Put yourself in his position- Could you have done anything about it- I would say that even Sir Alex Ferguson would struggle at this time with almost an entire team on the injured list and pretty well handcuffed into playing one way. Get a grip of yourselves and give him a Fair chance because I am telling you it will take little short of a miracle to be able to blend this team into a formidable unit whilst playing a completely different brand of football. I would go as far as to say that Ian Holloway and other Managers would have shied away from the job anyway! Just look at the injured list now Jaakkola, Little, Davies, Hare, Matthews, THD, Ollie Clarke, Ogogo, Smith and a 50% fit Clarke-Harris. Now think about how we can bring even more players in if you add to those Reilly, Mensah and Deon Moore who have all been on loan
Anyway enough of that- on to yesterdays match- yes it was pretty awful but lets not fool ourselves into thinking that the MK Dons team put out yesterday were a bottom four team-yes the table pre match showed them as that but they are a team who have been playing with no attack whatsoever due to injuries to key players- a position that we are now in! even yesterday could have been so different if Anssi hadn't had to go off after 4 minutes and if Leahy had put away the simple chance that followed which Nichols should have been given no chance whatsoever of saving.
Jaakkola NOLE Really hope he isn't going to be out long because he has been a rock in goal and it proved yesterday what happens if his regular worldies are not made!
Menayese 2 Looked like a man in a dream world totally lost for the entire period he was on the field. This can happen to a young player and he should have been replaced much earlier but what options were available? We have to stick with him because he won't play that bad again and we certainly were no better when the change was made . Craig 4 Had a real off game where his lack of pace was really shown up and he should never have been turned so easily for the first goal but it really was a day where nobody played to their full capability and most were nowhere near it. Kilgour 4.5 The best of a very poor central three or I could just as easily have said a poor entire team as we were lucky to get away with only three!
Rodman 2 No positive comment to make other than he wasn't injured! Upson 4 This was his worst game of the season. He was played into trouble too often and his weaknesses were exposed rather than his strength. In truth he needs pacy players with him but that doesn't account for an unusual amount of poor passes he made. Ogogo 1 Was not fit from the off but wanted to play. This would be my only criticism of the Manager yesterday- he shouldn't have played and didn't play. Sercombe 5 The best of the midfield but even that wasn't a good performance. Leahy 2.5 Missed a straightforward chance that could have changed the game and like the rest of the team it was just a well below par performance
Nichols 5 Normal Nichols game with nil goal return but showed a bit more skill than some around him. Clarke-Harris 2 Arrogance personified. Lots of waving of arms and strolling about but on this performance we would be better off without him but only at the right price. the fact nobody else scores many goals makes his full fitness so important to us.
Subs: van Stappershoef 3 difficult to tell from so far away but looked at fault in some way on both second half goals especially the second where their striker appeared to just pass through him. May be being harsh but it certainly looked that way and I just can't be bothered to look at a replay of a terrible afternoon- once was enough!. Hargreaves 5 showed some good skills but was never going to really influence the game where so many went missing. Bennett NOLE
Crowd 5 A big following of over a 1000 did not deserve to have to witness this. As for MK Dons well all I can say is that their stadium is far far too big for them and a 8500 crowd seemed like about 2500. Ref 1 Missed so many obvious decisions and got so much wrong - the only other person on the field who was as bad as us. MK 6 I would say they are a middle to top ten team who are well capable of pushing on now. Nobody deserved MOM as all were poor irrespective of the marks.
So what can Ben Garner do? As regards Sunday probably not much but longer term to change the style of football it is my belief that he will really have to do some wheelin' and dealin' but it won't be easy as we have too many players who are either injured or not good enough. Take the strikers- if we lose JCH I would if I could have a complete clear out because none of the existing ones have the capability to score goals regularly. In midfield we seriously lack any pace whatsoever and that is what BG needs to find whichever style of football he plans to play.
I firmly believe that given the chance by both supporters and the owners that BG could become a good Manager but I would say that a minimum of 5 players need to come in and that is with keeping JCH. I even think we may have to get another loan keeper in as well!
Despite all this doom and gloom I am looking forward to Sunday. UTG
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Post by kampucheagas on Jan 2, 2020 11:26:53 GMT
Thanks Steve. Good report and it’s nice to see someone with their head on. Driving me mad reading some of the belters on here claiming the manager is no good! I sometimes wonder if people deliberately go out of their way to be negative to make themselves feel better? My wife says she watches Eastenders cause it makes her feel better that other people have sh**ter lives than us!
Anyway it was poor but I saw it coming. We have been really unlucky with injuries and it hurts a squad. I live in Bournemouth and they too have been ravaged and now slump into the bottom 3. Howe looks despondent and although he refuses to complain you can see it’s taking its toll on the man.
I’m wondering if we might see some changes Sunday and Wednesday in the cup games? Not much we can do in defence but maybe play Tomlinson, Hargreaves and Benno and rest our others til the league games?
I’ll be there again Sunday as I love the cup. I’d love us to be in the hat for Rd 4 as a big away day could galvanise the support and add some pennies! You never know.
And please if you do attend, get behind the manager and the players! If you can’t, put on Hymns on Sunday, brew a hot chocolate and stay at home.
UTG
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Post by daniel300380 on Jan 2, 2020 11:36:57 GMT
I will start this report by immediately slating anybody who has already written off the Manager. We are supposed to be Bristol Rovers SUPPORTERS but in truth the reaction to yesterdays defeat by many on Facebook and on here and other sites is way worse than "the other lot" in their treatment of a Manager who has done wonders really transforming them from yearly relegation fight to definite challengers but at least they have given him plenty of chances!! Gasheads make no mistake it was always going to be a far from easy task to take over from a Manager who result wise had brought us a magnificent return in a year with a brand of football which though many disliked was the ONLY way you could play with the players we had. The obstacles which Coughlan faced are still there now but worsened by an injury list that would hit any team in the country. I don't care if we had appointed Steve Cotterell, Ian Holloway or ANother they would struggle with the task ahead because the players have all been playing to their limits within a strict defensive system which lots didn't like but was very effective. OK somebody comes in and plays exactly the same way and maintain results is that really what you want?? The bloke has had three games in a hectic period where there is only time to recover and go again- no time for coaching or for players to get over injuries and no transfers available until now anyway. Put yourself in his position- Could you have done anything about it- I would say that even Sir Alex Ferguson would struggle at this time with almost an entire team on the injured list and pretty well handcuffed into playing one way. Get a grip of yourselves and give him a Fair chance because I am telling you it will take little short of a miracle to be able to blend this team into a formidable unit whilst playing a completely different brand of football. I would go as far as to say that Ian Holloway and other Managers would have shied away from the job anyway! Just look at the injured list now Jaakkola, Little, Davies, Hare, Matthews, THD, Ollie Clarke, Ogogo, Smith and a 50% fit Clarke-Harris. Now think about how we can bring even more players in if you add to those Reilly, Mensah and Deon Moore who have all been on loan Anyway enough of that- on to yesterdays match- yes it was pretty awful but lets not fool ourselves into thinking that the MK Dons team put out yesterday were a bottom four team-yes the table pre match showed them as that but they are a team who have been playing with no attack whatsoever due to injuries to key players- a position that we are now in! even yesterday could have been so different if Anssi hadn't had to go off after 4 minutes and if Leahy had put away the simple chance that followed which Nichols should have been given no chance whatsoever of saving. Jaakkola NOLE Really hope he isn't going to be out long because he has been a rock in goal and it proved yesterday what happens if his regular worldies are not made! Menayese 2 Looked like a man in a dream world totally lost for the entire period he was on the field. This can happen to a young player and he should have been replaced much earlier but what options were available? We have to stick with him because he won't play that bad again and we certainly were no better when the change was made . Craig 4 Had a real off game where his lack of pace was really shown up and he should never have been turned so easily for the first goal but it really was a day where nobody played to their full capability and most were nowhere near it. Kilgour 4.5 The best of a very poor central three or I could just as easily have said a poor entire team as we were lucky to get away with only three! Rodman 2 No positive comment to make other than he wasn't injured! Upson 4 This was his worst game of the season. He was played into trouble too often and his weaknesses were exposed rather than his strength. In truth he needs pacy players with him but that doesn't account for an unusual amount of poor passes he made. Ogogo 1 Was not fit from the off but wanted to play. This would be my only criticism of the Manager yesterday- he shouldn't have played and didn't play. Sercombe 5 The best of the midfield but even that wasn't a good performance. Leahy 2.5 Missed a straightforward chance that could have changed the game and like the rest of the team it was just a well below par performance Nichols 5 Normal Nichols game with nil goal return but showed a bit more skill than some around him. Clarke-Harris 2 Arrogance personified. Lots of waving of arms and strolling about but on this performance we would be better off without him but only at the right price. the fact nobody else scores many goals makes his full fitness so important to us. Subs: van Stappershoef 3 difficult to tell from so far away but looked at fault in some way on both second half goals especially the second where their striker appeared to just pass through him. May be being harsh but it certainly looked that way and I just can't be bothered to look at a replay of a terrible afternoon- once was enough!. Hargreaves 5 showed some good skills but was never going to really influence the game where so many went missing. Bennett NOLE Crowd 5 A big following of over a 1000 did not deserve to have to witness this. As for MK Dons well all I can say is that their stadium is far far too big for them and a 8500 crowd seemed like about 2500. Ref 1 Missed so many obvious decisions and got so much wrong - the only other person on the field who was as bad as us. MK 6 I would say they are a middle to top ten team who are well capable of pushing on now. Nobody deserved MOM as all were poor irrespective of the marks. So what can Ben Garner do? As regards Sunday probably not much but longer term to change the style of football it is my belief that he will really have to do some wheelin' and dealin' but it won't be easy as we have too many players who are either injured or not good enough. Take the strikers- if we lose JCH I would if I could have a complete clear out because none of the existing ones have the capability to score goals regularly. In midfield we seriously lack any pace whatsoever and that is what BG needs to find whichever style of football he plans to play. I firmly believe that given the chance by both supporters and the owners that BG could become a good Manager but I would say that a minimum of 5 players need to come in and that is with keeping JCH. I even think we may have to get another loan keeper in as well! Despite all this doom and gloom I am looking forward to Sunday. UTG Keeper should have saved the first 2 really. Got a decent hand on the first, but didn't change the direction. Jakola would have saved it IMO. The 2nd was a keeper mistake IMO. Even the 3rd he could have come out quicker. Worried if be continues like that. Jakola started off nervous as well though. So hopefully he will improve.
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Post by chilly1883 on Jan 2, 2020 11:46:25 GMT
Pretty much exactly as I saw it, awful game from the start, no atmosphere, not seen our fans so quiet in a long time. Pretty appalling behaviour by some so called fans, to slate a manager, who’s been through the door only 9 days. C’mon, really? Get a grip and get behind the team.
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Post by CrispPusher on Jan 2, 2020 12:08:19 GMT
I don't blame Ben Garner, believe his appointment was really badly mistimed though. Bringing in someone new from outside of the club really could have and should have waited until today at least.
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Post by BelieveItWhenIAmSatInIt on Jan 2, 2020 12:16:33 GMT
I will start this report by immediately slating anybody who has already written off the Manager. We are supposed to be Bristol Rovers SUPPORTERS but in truth the reaction to yesterdays defeat by many on Facebook and on here and other sites is way worse than "the other lot" in their treatment of a Manager who has done wonders really transforming them from yearly relegation fight to definite challengers but at least they have given him plenty of chances!! Gasheads make no mistake it was always going to be a far from easy task to take over from a Manager who result wise had brought us a magnificent return in a year with a brand of football which though many disliked was the ONLY way you could play with the players we had. The obstacles which Coughlan faced are still there now but worsened by an injury list that would hit any team in the country. I don't care if we had appointed Steve Cotterell, Ian Holloway or ANother they would struggle with the task ahead because the players have all been playing to their limits within a strict defensive system which lots didn't like but was very effective. OK somebody comes in and plays exactly the same way and maintain results is that really what you want?? The bloke has had three games in a hectic period where there is only time to recover and go again- no time for coaching or for players to get over injuries and no transfers available until now anyway. Put yourself in his position- Could you have done anything about it- I would say that even Sir Alex Ferguson would struggle at this time with almost an entire team on the injured list and pretty well handcuffed into playing one way. Get a grip of yourselves and give him a Fair chance because I am telling you it will take little short of a miracle to be able to blend this team into a formidable unit whilst playing a completely different brand of football. I would go as far as to say that Ian Holloway and other Managers would have shied away from the job anyway! Just look at the injured list now Jaakkola, Little, Davies, Hare, Matthews, THD, Ollie Clarke, Ogogo, Smith and a 50% fit Clarke-Harris. Now think about how we can bring even more players in if you add to those Reilly, Mensah and Deon Moore who have all been on loan Anyway enough of that- on to yesterdays match- yes it was pretty awful but lets not fool ourselves into thinking that the MK Dons team put out yesterday were a bottom four team-yes the table pre match showed them as that but they are a team who have been playing with no attack whatsoever due to injuries to key players- a position that we are now in! even yesterday could have been so different if Anssi hadn't had to go off after 4 minutes and if Leahy had put away the simple chance that followed which Nichols should have been given no chance whatsoever of saving. Jaakkola NOLE Really hope he isn't going to be out long because he has been a rock in goal and it proved yesterday what happens if his regular worldies are not made! Menayese 2 Looked like a man in a dream world totally lost for the entire period he was on the field. This can happen to a young player and he should have been replaced much earlier but what options were available? We have to stick with him because he won't play that bad again and we certainly were no better when the change was made . Craig 4 Had a real off game where his lack of pace was really shown up and he should never have been turned so easily for the first goal but it really was a day where nobody played to their full capability and most were nowhere near it. Kilgour 4.5 The best of a very poor central three or I could just as easily have said a poor entire team as we were lucky to get away with only three! Rodman 2 No positive comment to make other than he wasn't injured! Upson 4 This was his worst game of the season. He was played into trouble too often and his weaknesses were exposed rather than his strength. In truth he needs pacy players with him but that doesn't account for an unusual amount of poor passes he made. Ogogo 1 Was not fit from the off but wanted to play. This would be my only criticism of the Manager yesterday- he shouldn't have played and didn't play. Sercombe 5 The best of the midfield but even that wasn't a good performance. Leahy 2.5 Missed a straightforward chance that could have changed the game and like the rest of the team it was just a well below par performance Nichols 5 Normal Nichols game with nil goal return but showed a bit more skill than some around him. Clarke-Harris 2 Arrogance personified. Lots of waving of arms and strolling about but on this performance we would be better off without him but only at the right price. the fact nobody else scores many goals makes his full fitness so important to us. Subs: van Stappershoef 3 difficult to tell from so far away but looked at fault in some way on both second half goals especially the second where their striker appeared to just pass through him. May be being harsh but it certainly looked that way and I just can't be bothered to look at a replay of a terrible afternoon- once was enough!. Hargreaves 5 showed some good skills but was never going to really influence the game where so many went missing. Bennett NOLE Crowd 5 A big following of over a 1000 did not deserve to have to witness this. As for MK Dons well all I can say is that their stadium is far far too big for them and a 8500 crowd seemed like about 2500. Ref 1 Missed so many obvious decisions and got so much wrong - the only other person on the field who was as bad as us. MK 6 I would say they are a middle to top ten team who are well capable of pushing on now. Nobody deserved MOM as all were poor irrespective of the marks. So what can Ben Garner do? As regards Sunday probably not much but longer term to change the style of football it is my belief that he will really have to do some wheelin' and dealin' but it won't be easy as we have too many players who are either injured or not good enough. Take the strikers- if we lose JCH I would if I could have a complete clear out because none of the existing ones have the capability to score goals regularly. In midfield we seriously lack any pace whatsoever and that is what BG needs to find whichever style of football he plans to play. I firmly believe that given the chance by both supporters and the owners that BG could become a good Manager but I would say that a minimum of 5 players need to come in and that is with keeping JCH. I even think we may have to get another loan keeper in as well! Despite all this doom and gloom I am looking forward to Sunday. UTG Agree with this pretty much in it's entirety. The only slight change I would make is I felt Leahy was our worst player yesterday and would therefore mark him so. He was ran rings around at times and as you rightly say, if he takes that relatively easy chance early on it is a very different game. My biggest takeaway from yesterdays game was the sinking feeling in the pit of my gut that I had had a day stolen from me! 5 hour round trip to sit in a freezing cold stadium devoid of any atmosphere whatsoever to watch what was probably the worst away performance I can recall since we lost 6-1 at Oxford some 11 years ago! It was a truly shambolic performance in truth, but there are a couple of caveats to that in the fact that MK Dons are clearly a very tidy footballing side who I have no idea whatsoever how they are where they are in the league and that we are a team carry a lot of injuries and it is starting to show now. One of those days yesterday where I was 50/50 on going or not pretty much up until it was time to leave the house and in hindsight, I made the wrong decision! BUT, there have plenty of times in the past where the same was true and it went the other way. The risk we take following a lower league club eh?!
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Post by BelieveItWhenIAmSatInIt on Jan 2, 2020 12:22:11 GMT
Pretty much exactly as I saw it, awful game from the start, no atmosphere, not seen our fans so quiet in a long time. Pretty appalling behaviour by some so called fans, to slate a manager, who’s been through the door only 9 days. C’mon, really? Get a grip and get behind the team. The fans were quiet because from minute 1 it was very very obvious that we were out of our depth and the team really didn't give the fans much to get excited about. On the subject of the fans, I make a particular point of watching the reaction of the players at the full time whistle given the circumstances.... Most gave a very half hearted look over to the fans and clapped us, but the one who stood out was JCH... The very millisecond the whistle blew he stomped off down the tunnel very clearly unhappy. That is not on at all! To be honest, his attitude stunk for the whole game and he looked like a man who would rather be somewhere else in my opinion. Any offers of £1.5M or above and we need to get rid IMO. That is of course assuming that at least 50% of that is then reinvested in the squad......
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Jan 2, 2020 12:25:08 GMT
Thanks stevek192. I think that the abuse that BG got yesterday and is ongoing, is awful form. We have ridden our luck in several games & were bound to lose at some point but it’s just GD and we have a game in hand. I’d hope that our supporters would be more tolerant as we really do not want to go back to the revolving door of managers, that ultimately got us relegated out of the league. Come on gasheads, get behind the guy and team. There is a lot of football to be played yet.
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Post by socrates on Jan 2, 2020 12:29:48 GMT
Pretty much exactly as I saw it, awful game from the start, no atmosphere, not seen our fans so quiet in a long time. Pretty appalling behaviour by some so called fans, to slate a manager, who’s been through the door only 9 days. C’mon, really? Get a grip and get behind the team. The fans were quiet because from minute 1 it was very very obvious that we were out of our depth and the team really didn't give the fans much to get excited about. On the subject of the fans, I make a particular point of watching the reaction of the players at the full time whistle given the circumstances.... Most gave a very half hearted look over to the fans and clapped us, but the one who stood out was JCH... The very millisecond the whistle blew he stomped off down the tunnel very clearly unhappy. That is not on at all! To be honest, his attitude stunk for the whole game and he looked like a man who would rather be somewhere else in my opinion. Any offers of £1.5M or above and we need to get rid IMO. That is of course assuming that at least 50% of that is then reinvested in the squad...... No way will we get 1.5m for him. More like half of that.
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Post by BelieveItWhenIAmSatInIt on Jan 2, 2020 12:31:19 GMT
For balance, I did not hear a single slur aimed at BG at yesterdays game.
I think that most (if not all) proper fans completely understand that a) we were probably in a bit of a false position when he took over and b) that it will take time for him to implement his style on the team and therefore has a period of grace whilst he attempts to do so.
I do not have facebook and perhaps that is why I have not really been aware of any negativity towards BG........ Perhaps that speaks volumes?
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Post by BelieveItWhenIAmSatInIt on Jan 2, 2020 12:32:36 GMT
The fans were quiet because from minute 1 it was very very obvious that we were out of our depth and the team really didn't give the fans much to get excited about. On the subject of the fans, I make a particular point of watching the reaction of the players at the full time whistle given the circumstances.... Most gave a very half hearted look over to the fans and clapped us, but the one who stood out was JCH... The very millisecond the whistle blew he stomped off down the tunnel very clearly unhappy. That is not on at all! To be honest, his attitude stunk for the whole game and he looked like a man who would rather be somewhere else in my opinion. Any offers of £1.5M or above and we need to get rid IMO. That is of course assuming that at least 50% of that is then reinvested in the squad...... No way will we get 1.5m for him. More like half of that. I disagree. We certainly will not sell for anything less than £1M. We have a healthy contract agreed and therefore really have no reason to sell for anything less than that.
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Post by Colyton Gas on Jan 2, 2020 12:35:38 GMT
Great summary Stevo.We have players who aren't up to it and yet most were great away to Shrewsbury.Rodman and Upson are enigmatic.Never know what display awaits.Just wish they'd look more involved.Would give Tomlinson a go.Need an influx of players and would send the two loan strikers back.
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Post by pirate on Jan 2, 2020 12:37:27 GMT
The fans were quiet because from minute 1 it was very very obvious that we were out of our depth and the team really didn't give the fans much to get excited about. On the subject of the fans, I make a particular point of watching the reaction of the players at the full time whistle given the circumstances.... Most gave a very half hearted look over to the fans and clapped us, but the one who stood out was JCH... The very millisecond the whistle blew he stomped off down the tunnel very clearly unhappy. That is not on at all! To be honest, his attitude stunk for the whole game and he looked like a man who would rather be somewhere else in my opinion. Any offers of £1.5M or above and we need to get rid IMO. That is of course assuming that at least 50% of that is then reinvested in the squad...... No way will we get 1.5m for him. More like half of that. Strange that the Peterborough chairman values him a lot more than some of our fans on here. To sell him for £750k would be a total embarrassment.
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Post by socrates on Jan 2, 2020 12:41:30 GMT
No way will we get 1.5m for him. More like half of that. Strange that the Peterborough chairman values him a lot more than some of our fans on here. To sell him for £750k would be a total embarrassment. Yes but I reckon we’ll sell him for about that.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2020 12:52:49 GMT
Strange that the Peterborough chairman values him a lot more than some of our fans on here. To sell him for £750k would be a total embarrassment. Yes but I reckon we’ll sell him for about that. I tend to agree but we might get £1m if we're lucky. Either way from what I've seen over the past few games I think he's gone and probably in the next week or so! There I've said it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2020 12:54:09 GMT
Nothing to back it up in any way BUT when you see how JCH is behaving on the pitch I wonder what atmosphere he might be causing in the dressing room. If BG is the quieter type you can see a potential problem. GC would have kept him in his place and maintained the harmony amongst the group.
The last three games JCH has played in all. Other than a penalty has done very little positive and has certainly slowed down our attacking threat.
We were scoring for fun without him … fast counter attacking play. Interesting times.
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Post by daniel300380 on Jan 2, 2020 12:54:17 GMT
Pretty much exactly as I saw it, awful game from the start, no atmosphere, not seen our fans so quiet in a long time. Pretty appalling behaviour by some so called fans, to slate a manager, who’s been through the door only 9 days. C’mon, really? Get a grip and get behind the team. The fans were quiet because from minute 1 it was very very obvious that we were out of our depth and the team really didn't give the fans much to get excited about. On the subject of the fans, I make a particular point of watching the reaction of the players at the full time whistle given the circumstances.... Most gave a very half hearted look over to the fans and clapped us, but the one who stood out was JCH... The very millisecond the whistle blew he stomped off down the tunnel very clearly unhappy. That is not on at all! To be honest, his attitude stunk for the whole game and he looked like a man who would rather be somewhere else in my opinion. Any offers of £1.5M or above and we need to get rid IMO. That is of course assuming that at least 50% of that is then reinvested in the squad...... From minute 1?? We nearly scored twice before the keeper got injured. Think that changed the game, a bit harsh to say from minute 1.
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Post by pirate on Jan 2, 2020 12:56:35 GMT
Strange that the Peterborough chairman values him a lot more than some of our fans on here. To sell him for £750k would be a total embarrassment. Yes but I reckon we’ll sell him for about that. Then we'll have been robbed. Again. The benchmark has been set with Accrington getting £1.6 million for Kayden Jackson after one decent season in the league below and Oxford getting £2.5 million for Marvin Johnson.
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Post by neilv93 on Jan 2, 2020 13:06:15 GMT
No way will we get 1.5m for him. More like half of that. Strange that the Peterborough chairman values him a lot more than some of our fans on here. To sell him for £750k would be a total embarrassment. This is what annoys me. Peterborough do fantastic business and DMac always make healthy profits on their players. If he's sat there replying to Twitter questions stating he believes JCH is worth "£2m plus add-ons" (he said before that Marquis was worth £1.8m, this before joined Pompey for "just under £2m" so he's largely accurate in that sense) in the current market then I'd be disappointed beyond belief if we sold him for any less than £1.5m as a minimum. Jonno is worth what we value him as. How long does his contract have to run? What's his injury record like? What his status in the squad? How does he compare to other strikers at this level? What fees have other clubs received for strikers at this level? How much would it cost us to replace him or get someone similar? etc. etc. the list goes on. I'm resigned to JCH leaving eventually but anything less than £1.5m in this market would be outright failure from our board.
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Post by Hudson1883 on Jan 2, 2020 13:13:59 GMT
Excellent report Steve. I agree entirely including the scores. Those giving Ben G some heat at the end of the game (and there were a few) are on a different planet. Any of those giving him stick after being in the job for less than a fortnight, pretty much cease to be a rational human being. Let alone a football supporter and especially a Gashead.
Faithful and true? Some are having a laugh.
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