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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Mar 9, 2020 22:51:54 GMT
Axegas you are a decent poster but your relentless in defending BG is seriously damaging the credibility of your posts. You can't defend the undefendable. The only reason he is still here is because we are highly unlikely to be relegated and he is only 3 months into a 2 and a half year contract.
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Post by LJG on Mar 9, 2020 22:55:24 GMT
Well if there's no logic in what I'm saying there's certainly none in what you're saying. You say get rid of dead wood and BG will turn things around. You apparently don't like it when I point out that he has got rid of dead wood (4 goals 3 seasons) and even having done that he's making things worse. So which is it? He should be getting rid of players or not? Make your mind up. No? I was just pointing out the inconsistency in your argument. I don’t consider Nichols deadwood as apart from score goals, he actually added something to the team in the final third that we’ve missed since. He was a dud. And still is. As is Garner. Neither show any evidence of changing radically enough to be useful to Bristol Rovers. Ever.
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Post by LJG on Mar 9, 2020 22:59:31 GMT
We beat Ipswich away without hose two So? JCH and Davies are at present two of our best players. We miss them when they are out injured. Huh? I thought you said BG has to clear out GC's players?
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Post by axegas on Mar 9, 2020 23:09:33 GMT
So? JCH and Davies are at present two of our best players. We miss them when they are out injured. Huh? I thought you said BG has to clear out GC's players? I said get rid of the deadwood, in what universe does that include two of our best players? Stop twisting my words.
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Post by axegas on Mar 9, 2020 23:16:27 GMT
Axegas you are a decent poster but your relentless in defending BG is seriously damaging the credibility of your posts. You can't defend the undefendable. The only reason he is still here is because we are highly unlikely to be relegated and he is only 3 months into a 2 and a half year contract. GGMI, I don’t go on here to gain “credibility” or whatever that means, I go on here to express my opinion. I’m not trying to defend BG, his record so far is pretty indefensible, all I want is that BG is given a bit more time than he has currently. I can appreciate it’s getting a bit boring now so I’ll let it rest for a bit.
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Post by Icegas on Mar 10, 2020 0:05:38 GMT
Even with that being the case you think Garner deserves to stay until Christmas? I’ve never said till Christmas. I would just like to see him given the summer so that he has an opportunity to get rid of a lot of players that have been garbage under him, bring in players that will suit the style of play he’s looking to implement and have a pre season to get them used to new tactics etc. If we are still sh** after that then yeah I’d obviously want him out. DC was thrown in the deep end with a team of underperforming pro’s and struggled too but Higgs gave him the summer which gave him an opportunity to make drastic changes and the rest is history.
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Post by Icegas on Mar 10, 2020 0:06:05 GMT
Even with that being the case you think Garner deserves to stay until Christmas? I’ve never said till Christmas. I would just like to see him given the summer so that he has an opportunity to get rid of a lot of players that have been garbage under him, bring in players that will suit the style of play he’s looking to implement and have a pre season to get them used to new tactics etc. If we are still sh** after that then yeah I’d obviously want him out. DC was thrown in the deep end with a team of underperforming pro’s and struggled too but Higgs gave him the summer which gave him an opportunity to make drastic changes and the rest is history. But what f**king style of play is that tho..?😂😂😠😠 We have seen no style of progressive,neat attacking, passing football that he said he wanted to bring to the table. He plays 1 up front (I never get that when any manager does that..btw) we have no width and mostly play as much hoof football as we did under GC. Im all for giving managers time but he as shown none of what his says he is trying to do here in 18/19? games.Thats why he should be gone tomorrow unless we win or playing outstanding tomorrow even if we are playing against the biggest club in the league. He should had kept to the tactics that GC got us to 4th with when he took over and changed them over time. I dont buy into this mindset from some fans that we were overachieving just completley lucky to be 4th when GC left - Nahhhh Im not buying it.GC knew what the f**k he was doing and proved so over 12 months here while BG doesnt seem to have a clue. Given his pre match interview on You tube he does talk a great game but with some things he said he knows he is gone if he dont win.
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Post by LJG on Mar 10, 2020 10:38:53 GMT
Axegas you are a decent poster but your relentless in defending BG is seriously damaging the credibility of your posts. You can't defend the undefendable. The only reason he is still here is because we are highly unlikely to be relegated and he is only 3 months into a 2 and a half year contract. GGMI, I don’t go on here to gain “credibility” or whatever that means, I go on here to express my opinion. I’m not trying to defend BG, his record so far is pretty indefensible, all I want is that BG is given a bit more time than he has currently. I can appreciate it’s getting a bit boring now so I’ll let it rest for a bit. I'm not trying to wind you up I'm genuinely trying to understand why you think what you do. But what evidence is there that giving him a summer to recruit more players will change anything?
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Post by pucklegas on Mar 10, 2020 11:24:20 GMT
If we go down this team will be remembered forever as the biggest turnaround since players contrived to stop us reaching the championship when it was looking very good under ollie
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 10, 2020 11:39:07 GMT
GGMI, I don’t go on here to gain “credibility” or whatever that means, I go on here to express my opinion. I’m not trying to defend BG, his record so far is pretty indefensible, all I want is that BG is given a bit more time than he has currently. I can appreciate it’s getting a bit boring now so I’ll let it rest for a bit. I'm not trying to wind you up I'm genuinely trying to understand why you think what you do. But what evidence is there that giving him a summer to recruit more players will change anything? That's the concern, assuming we stay up and we win just, say, another 2 homes games, if we're lucky(!) would any of us trust BG to clear out all the "dead wood" and then replace them with players like Ogogo and Davies who could then give us the chance of a decent season next season, or will he just bring in more untried youngsters, even if he can bring in decent players is he capable of getting them to play to a reasonable standard given he's managed to destroy GC's team this season? Plus there's the other elephant in the room, how are season ticket sales going to be affected if BG remains in charge?
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Post by gasandelectricity on Mar 10, 2020 12:02:47 GMT
I'm not trying to wind you up I'm genuinely trying to understand why you think what you do. But what evidence is there that giving him a summer to recruit more players will change anything? That's the concern, assuming we stay up and we win just, say, another 2 homes games, if we're lucky(!) would any of us trust BG to clear out all the "dead wood" and then replace them with players like Ogogo and Davies who could then give us the chance of a decent season next season, or will he just bring in more untried youngsters, even if he can bring in decent players is he capable of getting them to play to a reasonable standard given he's managed to destroy GC's team this season? Plus there's the other elephant in the room, how are season ticket sales going to be affected if BG remains in charge? Yeah. For any normal club ownership he’d be dead in the water. Doesn’t matter how much faith you have if your supporters have none especially to the extent where we are now. His position should be untenable.
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