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Post by Rovers 12th Man on Aug 27, 2020 7:19:23 GMT
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Post by Rovers 12th Man on Aug 27, 2020 7:21:22 GMT
Kind of inevitable he was going to go given he had not signed the deal that had been on offer for months. It is just a shame that it is a bit of a sideways step for him. Posh are one of the sides I hope we will be competing with for a play-off spot this season and I thought JCH would be looking for a Championship club at this stage of his career and having proved himself in L1. £1.25m is a decent amount though so let's hope we can get a suitable replacement (or ideally 2 strikers) before Ipswich. Fair points but what if a championship club didn’t want him? Then I had hoped he would have stayed with us. We resurrected his career a bit so it would have been nice to see him move up rather than sideways if he was to leave.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Aug 27, 2020 7:22:58 GMT
Let's hope that Coventry aren't due too much of the transfer fee. None according to the Post.
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Post by lavalamp on Aug 27, 2020 7:25:56 GMT
Gasheads were generally underwhelmed when we signed JCH due to his previous poor scoring record.
Hit a purple patch under GC, but then people stating he wasn't the same player after injury (but actually just reverting back to his previous scoring exploits).
Rumours this pre-season he returned unfit and overweight.
Will we miss him? Not sure, but he was the only striker we had that has scored league goals.
Jury out until his replacement is signed.
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Post by neilv93 on Aug 27, 2020 7:27:20 GMT
Footballs fans in a nutshell. They think they've massively overpaid, we think they've massively underpaid! Time will tell for both sides.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Aug 27, 2020 7:27:57 GMT
We need someone who has scored goals at this level its as simple as that. The problem is, someone like that will cost us money. People talk about Rhys Healey but surely he would cost us more than what we have just made for JCH? Nichols and Payne scored goals at this level, just saying. It's not a guarantee either way, and I'd be happy if we picked up someone who's performed well at L2 or the Conference, who has the genuine ability to make the step up. Yeah, in a way, I'd be happier with two from the conference than one average league 1 'proven' player. It feels like a lottery anyway (unless you pay big money), and two tickets are better than one.
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Aug 27, 2020 7:30:31 GMT
The fee is about right, i dont think we can complain too hard ref that. We can only really judge whether it will be a good bit if business when a replacement is in the door. £1.25m for a goalscorer to our divisional rivals who's chairman recently openly stated he was worth more than that and to a club who are reportedly set to sell their striker with a similar record for a fee in the region of £5m? Pants pulled down again if you ask me. How long does Toney have left on his contract though? We risked having a striker who wanted to leave going for nothing. I think we've avoided having our pants pulled down.
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Post by rovers5charlton5 on Aug 27, 2020 7:32:52 GMT
Let's hope that Coventry aren't due too much of the transfer fee. I expect Ayunga was signed with this in mind, and we got him early to avoid an inflated fee. We may get Healey in too, and I see those 2 as being better long term options bearing in mind JCH's fitness issues. Ayunga a better long term option given JCH's fitness issues? You mean better than a player that has scored 27 goals in 49 games for us and one where only only five players in the squad made more appearances in the season just gone and last season (18/19) playing in 46 games and 40 games the season before that? Good luck with that. I didn't say Ayunga alone was a better option, but a combination of the 2, although there is potential there. Don't forget that Jonson was often injured, and his first game or 2 back after these injuries he was always off the pace. Is that a good setup for the club, when the player you rely on to score the goals is not on their game often enough, but when they are, they score 2 or 3 goals in the game?
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Post by mariobalotelli on Aug 27, 2020 7:34:49 GMT
Fee is good, 1.25 + add ons probably see it work out at around 2M.
Not gutted he’s gone strangely, just a bit sh** that a club like Peterborough are more appealing than us.
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Post by pirate on Aug 27, 2020 7:36:01 GMT
£1.25m for a goalscorer to our divisional rivals who's chairman recently openly stated he was worth more than that and to a club who are reportedly set to sell their striker with a similar record for a fee in the region of £5m? Pants pulled down again if you ask me. How long does Toney have left on his contract though? We risked having a striker who wanted to leave going for nothing. I think we've avoided having our pants pulled down. Having your top goalscorer entering the last year of his contract and losing him to a bloke that recently stated he was worth more is having your pants pulled down and then rolling over to have your tummy tickled. We've seen it all too often in recent years.
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Post by Charlton Hayes Gas on Aug 27, 2020 7:37:19 GMT
It’s weird that I don’t feel as gutted as when Lambert or bodin left.
£1.25m plus add ons is a good bit of business imo and we all know his injury record and only 1 year left on the deal.
Plus, If we can get in someone who BG believes suits his system just aswell (if not better) than JCH than I think it’s a good deal all round.
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Post by Nortongashead on Aug 27, 2020 7:39:39 GMT
Good luck to JCH clearly the championship didn’t offer him what Posh are. We have made a good profit on him not forgetting he’s not the fittest of players. Only worry is where are the goals coming from. Would like to see us break our transfer record to replace him.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2020 7:39:53 GMT
It’s weird that I don’t feel as gutted as when Lambert or bodin left. £1.25m plus add ons is a good bit of business imo and we all know his injury record and only 1 year left on the deal. Plus, If we can get in someone who BG believes suits his system just aswell (if not better) than JCH than I think it’s a good deal all round. Its not weird mate, they were both thrice the player.
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Post by pirate on Aug 27, 2020 7:42:52 GMT
Ayunga a better long term option given JCH's fitness issues? You mean better than a player that has scored 27 goals in 49 games for us and one where only only five players in the squad made more appearances in the season just gone and last season (18/19) playing in 46 games and 40 games the season before that? Good luck with that. I didn't say Ayunga alone was a better option, but a combination of the 2, although there is potential there. Don't forget that Jonson was often injured, and his first game or 2 back after these injuries he was always off the pace. Is that a good setup for the club, when the player you rely on to score the goals is not on their game often enough, but when they are, they score 2 or 3 goals in the game? But, he isn't "often injured" though, is he? The number of games he's played over the past 3 seasons is impressive. And for the record he has scored one hat-trick and three doubles.
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Post by singupgas on Aug 27, 2020 7:43:23 GMT
Christ giving away another star player for what is a low sum in today's game.
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Post by xenongas on Aug 27, 2020 7:43:32 GMT
Without wanting to sound trumpian, I like this deal.
No doubt his contribution has been huge whilst he's been here but he's the only player who's been speculated to not be 100% mentally on board this summer. With that in mind and a year left on his contract, it's a decent pay out.
From a money point of view, I think we are significantly up in this window? Isn't that the sort of sustainable business most fans have been asking for, especially with the amount of financial uncertainty hanging over clubs not at the top table?
The main concern is obviously the lack of striking options. We need experience. I completely get the Nicholls/Payne duds argument but as importantly as goals I think experience will bring leadership to the striking group which will be desperately needed during any rough patches.
As for the randomly inflated valuations of the posh chairman (or isn't it el presidente now?!), its his business tactics. I don't believe or trust a word that comes out of his mouth. He'd suit a ministerial red box with his way of throwing tons of sh*te out into the world then taking as much credit as possible for the few dirty specks that land.
Good luck JCH. But I really hope you fall just short of the playoffs.
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Post by Gastafari on Aug 27, 2020 7:44:47 GMT
We need someone who has scored goals at this level its as simple as that. The problem is, someone like that will cost us money. People talk about Rhys Healey but surely he would cost us more than what we have just made for JCH? I'd go and make an offer to Brentford for Marcus Forss. He might not want to leave, Brentford might not want to sell and it might mean us smashing our transfer record, but needs must and all that. It's about time we did smash it. 1992 and counting. Most of us have been praising Wael, regarding him pumping money in, and the signings he's made recently, going out and smashing it will show a real sign of intent.
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Post by lavalamp on Aug 27, 2020 7:45:27 GMT
JCH was born and raised in Leicester - 40 miles from Peterborough.
He's only gone and done, what is know in the business, as a Coughlan.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2020 7:47:53 GMT
I'd go and make an offer to Brentford for Marcus Forss. He might not want to leave, Brentford might not want to sell and it might mean us smashing our transfer record, but needs must and all that. It's about time we did smash it. 1992 and counting. Most of us have been praising Wael, regarding him pumping money in, and the signings he's made recently, going out and smashing it will show a real sign of intent. Our record transfer is Tom Nichols 👀
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Post by pucklechurchgas on Aug 27, 2020 7:48:58 GMT
Regardless of everything else, we can’t keep selling our best players if we are ever going to progress. Every year it’s one step forward and two steps back.
Appreciate it may be good business on paper to get good money for JCH with his injuries but our ongoing history to never adequately replace these players and put money back into transfers makes this completely underwhelming. Hope I’m proven wrong. UTG!
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