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Post by gulfofaden on Mar 25, 2021 7:34:40 GMT
No-one, and I mean no-one, except possibly you, would say that a manager who got us into the L1 playoffs had done f**k all for us. But if he does it for another club, then presumably it doesn't count. And this was Fleetwood we're talking about here. Not Sunderland or Ipswich. His current record is indeed terrible, but you seem to be harping on relentlessly (as you always do when you've got an idea in your head) about his past record and denying factual achievements. Pointless unless you just love arguing. Like I said we obviously have different definitions of the word "achievement". Losing a play off isn't an achievement it's the absence of an achievement. Which is why on his Wikipedia page it doesn't list "Lost in the play offs" under Honours as a manager. Achievements and honours are different things. Keeping a clean sheet is an achievement but it won’t be listed on your Wikipedia page. Another achievement would be taking a balanced view on things and entering discussions in a spirit of camaraderie and understanding. Yet, I note it’s not listed on your Wikipedia page yet.
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Post by playtowin on Mar 25, 2021 7:47:59 GMT
Like I said we obviously have different definitions of the word "achievement". Losing a play off isn't an achievement it's the absence of an achievement. Which is why on his Wikipedia page it doesn't list "Lost in the play offs" under Honours as a manager. Achievements and honours are different things. Keeping a clean sheet is an achievement but it won’t be listed on your Wikipedia page. Another achievement would be taking a balanced view on things and entering discussions in a spirit of camaraderie and understanding. Yet, I note it’s not listed on your Wikipedia page yet. Darn this takes loads of things off the rovers achievement list now. Losing to huddersfield,port vale and tranmere in finals. Beating premier league teams in the cup...but not winning the FACUP. Looks like its only winning the league a couple of times and the watney cup count. Even then league one isnt winning the Prem so maybe they dont count either.the watney cup didnt include all clubs so that cant count surely. So left with zero i guess. Still its a low bar to equal now !
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Post by goodnightirene1883 on Mar 25, 2021 8:32:00 GMT
Interesting read for some this
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Mar 25, 2021 8:47:37 GMT
Interesting read for some this Interesting reading for a proof reader: But while the macro elements of the club looked positive, as Widdrington gradually brought a spiralling wage bill down, the micro – some would say, the bread and butter - wasn’t, and quite frankly hasn’t since; namely, results on the pitch.
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Post by goodnightirene1883 on Mar 25, 2021 8:51:43 GMT
Interesting read for some this Interesting reading for a proof reader: But while the macro elements of the club looked positive, as Widdrington gradually brought a spiralling wage bill down, the micro – some would say, the bread and butter - wasn’t, and quite frankly hasn’t since; namely, results on the pitch. I rely on spell checking and grammarly apps, so I have no idea what is wrong on this one. I swear blind no one taught me about that stuff at school but my memory is awful these days so they probably did. I send the kids to their mum for English homework, I do maths
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Post by faggotygas on Mar 25, 2021 8:53:48 GMT
Is this what he means? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_ResetWhat does Barton know about macroeconomics, the fourth industrial revolution and the movement of shadowy figures conducting world events that we don't?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2021 9:08:55 GMT
Interesting read for some this I see dead people (adverts and pop ups)
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Mar 25, 2021 9:15:38 GMT
Let's keep all the non-Rovers conspiracy bullshit out of this forum, thanks.
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Post by pirate on Mar 25, 2021 9:16:32 GMT
Let's keep all the non-Rovers conspiracy bullshit out of this forum, thanks. Only mucking about, don't get your knickers in a twist.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Mar 25, 2021 9:18:36 GMT
Let's keep all the non-Rovers conspiracy bullshit out of this forum, thanks. Only mucking about, don't get your knickers in a twist. But you actually posted it. I'm telling you not to. Don't post bullshit conspiracy nonsense and tin foil hat gibberish in here again.
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Post by LJG on Mar 25, 2021 9:23:16 GMT
Like I said we obviously have different definitions of the word "achievement". Losing a play off isn't an achievement it's the absence of an achievement. Which is why on his Wikipedia page it doesn't list "Lost in the play offs" under Honours as a manager. Achievements and honours are different things. Keeping a clean sheet is an achievement but it won’t be listed on your Wikipedia page. Another achievement would be taking a balanced view on things and entering discussions in a spirit of camaraderie and understanding. Yet, I note it’s not listed on your Wikipedia page yet. OK, sure I accept that. This has all distracted from my initial point. Whether I agree or not getting into the play offs is an achievement- it's no more than John Ward did but I'm sure it would be regarded as ridiculous to say "John Ward is the man to sort this club out from top to bottom". My opinion is that it's equally ridiculous to say it about Joey Barton. I think people have been blinded by his playing career and the fact he is a well known name in football. Equally nothing good has ever come from someone coming from outside the club to "sort it out from top to bottom". The opposite is true in fact, our best periods have come from internal appointments and stability in staff turnover.
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Post by legas on Mar 25, 2021 10:27:56 GMT
“HMS water the League is pretty much at the bottom of the ocean”.
That did make me laugh (you’ve got to laugh haven’t you?).
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Post by axegas on Mar 25, 2021 10:33:03 GMT
“HMS water the League is pretty much at the bottom of the ocean”. That did make me laugh (you’ve got to laugh haven’t you?). HMS water the league was basically the footballing equivalent of the Vasa, overhyped, poorly built and sunk on the maiden voyage.
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Post by legas on Mar 25, 2021 10:37:51 GMT
“HMS water the League is pretty much at the bottom of the ocean”. That did make me laugh (you’ve got to laugh haven’t you?). HMS water the league was basically the footballing equivalent of the Vasa, overhyped, poorly built and sunk on the maiden voyage. Or the Titanic but for lifeboats read strikers.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Mar 25, 2021 11:34:28 GMT
HMS water the league was basically the footballing equivalent of the Vasa, overhyped, poorly built and sunk on the maiden voyage. Or the Titanic but for lifeboats read strikers. The titanic was on fire before it even set sail. The fire in the engine room weakened the hull where it gave way when it hit the iceberg. We need to look at the club from top to bottom and put out the fires before we even think about making any other changes.
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Mar 25, 2021 11:40:42 GMT
Let's keep all the non-Rovers conspiracy bullshit out of this forum, thanks. Only mucking about, don't get your knickers in a twist
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Mar 25, 2021 11:41:29 GMT
Only mucking about, don't get your knickers in a twist 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💙💙💙💙💙💙💙
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