Sacking Barton Now Would Be Madness

Well said gasattack agree with everything u said time to judge this manager when this squad is revamped interesting times ahead in the summer

Yes, madness to sack him, or indeed anyone we appointied in place of Tisdale (who I thought we should have kept on until the end of the season). It’s been a dreadful season, and I’ve got faith in him to sort out the mess we’re in. And if he does get sacked are we going to get any better?

I’ve been watching us since 1968. We were awful in 81 when we got relegated from what is now the championship with five wins all season. And when we went out of the league under JW/DC. But this is about as pitiful.

No point in sacking him now. He may be sacked in June if he goes down for ABH.

Because his record is just awful, about the worse of the three managers.

I wonder, when he was recruited, did the board say,

"Mr Barton, its imperative that we stay in L1 this season, before we give you free reign to rebuild the playing squad if appointed. You have had ample time to review the players, watched games, do you think you can coach them into achieving that initial objective?"

Barton
"Yes I can, I have identified the tactical weaknesses and the players I feel that have the character. Then we build from there next season"

So he gets the job.
And failed quite spectacularly.

Apart from abject failure on the pitch, he has slagged players off in public, spouted absolute nonsensical psychobabble, slagged off the medics and other coaches and finally, the old failing manager faux pas, blamed the referees.

The bloke appears to be an absolute fraud who didnt really want to come here in the first place.

And you guys actually want him to be kept on???

😂😂😂

Problem here is any manager who was interviewed would have said the exact same thing.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing but sadly nobody would have or will ever know who could have kept us up.

Had he had January to bring some players in and we were still in this position then I could understand your view but he needs to be given the chance to bring some players in during the summer before he can be fully judged.

When the transfer window shut and we hadn’t got a striker in then that was the moment when alot of fans said that was going to cost us at the end of the season. While I was worried I still thought we would be ok but those fans have been proved right.

Yesterday their goal while there was a slight mistake before the goal was a well worked goal which you hold your hands up to but if you look at alot of the goals we have conceded this season it has been from stand out individual mistakes and that is nothing that any of the previous 3 managers can control.

The thing that angers me the most is that while we have lost alot of games since JB has come in I would rather have lost those games where we have been played off the pitch and to soften the blow but I think even the fans who don’t support Barton like yourself has to admit there hasn’t really been any game where we have been outplayed.

Nearly every game post match we can all remember in the game where we have had not a half chance but a chance which should have been at the very least on target and not just one but at least a few which the strikers haven’t taken and been on top for a decent periodand then there has been a moment where a player has slipped or lost his marker and they have scored and that is the reason we are going down.

When you are on top and creating chances you need to take them but out strikers sadly aren’t clinical enough, At the start of the season I was thinking that they weren’t getting the service but as the season has gone on and since JB came in and to an extent PT more chances were created and this is then where you could see where the problem exists added to our defence who every single one of them has made stand out mistakes all season.

Precisely, and if anyone says "because he has played at the highest level" well that isn't going to wash. Tony Adams, John Barnes, Harry Kewell, and many many others have played their entire careers virtually at the highest level and it hasn't made them good managers. The evidence doesn't stack up.

That, and his tenure at Fleetwood was decent, but they have better facilities and a better all round structure than we do. We need someone who can work with what we have and not be watering and moaning constantly about what we don't. Just quietly work on the infrastructure improvements in the background and stop using it as an excuse.

I agree that we should not sack Barton...yet. Not because he is a great manager, or even the right manager, but because another sacking now would indicate that we are willing to hire and fire at will - and who else would want to come to a club that does that. Although its history now, I believe that we were WRONG to sack BG having hired him for the last great reset and just when he was building a team that were doing OK. That said, I agree with Orgasmic that JB's performance to date has been woeful. Instead of blaming everyone else at the club he should be keeping his mouth firmly shut and producing results. In that he has spectacularly failed - he seemed resigned to relegation weeks ago - all his public utterances (excuses for poor performances) were awful...not the stuff you want players and fans to hear if you are serious about staying up. We have 4 more matches and he should be putting all his energy into getting 12 points - a long shot? Of course it is, but shut up blaming people and get on with YOUR job and win matches.

Maybe thats why Wael wants him to implement what was in place at Fleetwood??

Like I said earlier, Wael is the owner and the person who he believes he is the correct man.

Whether you believe he is not the right person or like me will let him make the changes and then see how it goes it all boils down to Wael.

If it works then all good but if it fails then Wael will then have to dig deep into his pockets.

The fact that it seems Wael is going to let him make the changes we will just have to wait and see.