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Post by Icegas on Sept 14, 2021 10:38:52 GMT
I'm 39, so I've been following Rovers since 1993 so not so young really in watching Rovers terms. Name 5 managers worse than BG? The only ones that I remember even being close to BG in nearly 30 years following us are. 1) Ray Graydon 2 John Ward ( 2nd time) 3) Mark Mcgee 4) Paul Buckle.. I know BG was not my Girlfriend,what a stupid thing to say.He was a truely shocking football manager that will go down as one of our worse, if not our worst ever based on stats alone. And I meant Barton was passionate before he come here, that's why I said when/before he was appointed. Using win ratio as the metric and ruling out caretakers.. The 5 worst managers in the last 30 years are: 5. Paul Tisdale (26.2%) 4. Joey Barton* (22.2%) updated from 16.7% currently recorded on Wiki after 24 games3. Ben Garner (18.2%) 2. Dave Penney (15.4%) 1. Martin Dobson (8.3%) * - Not out Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Bristol_Rovers_F.C._managers Also I note John Ward has had both his tenures combined in the Wiki table which will obviously have lifted his win % .. although he did very well in the first part of his second stint.. seem to recall him taking us from the relegation zone to a play off charge...In all fairness, stats are not my only issues with BG.He changed a solid base of our first team and broke it up for the sh** that we watched last year. |
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Sept 14, 2021 11:17:16 GMT
At the time we thought he was sh**, turns out he was good. It's all relative. He was still sh**. Just because the other two were arguably even more sh** doesn’t mean that he wasn’t sh**. You have to hand it to the board. Imagine selecting the sh**test Rovers manager of all time and then sitting in the boardroom and going ok all we need is not to bring in someone who will break that record and it will be an improvement and then finding one who does. And then, doing it again. Absolute circus. |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Sept 14, 2021 12:59:37 GMT
He was still sh**. Just because the other two were arguably even more sh** doesn’t mean that he wasn’t sh**. You have to hand it to the board. Imagine selecting the sh**test Rovers manager of all time and then sitting in the boardroom and going ok all we need is not to bring in someone who will break that record and it will be an improvement and then finding one who does. And then, doing it again. Absolute circus. Hey you can't account for buses... |
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Post by bluebiro on Sept 14, 2021 18:27:00 GMT
He was still sh**. Just because the other two were arguably even more sh** doesn’t mean that he wasn’t sh**. You have to hand it to the board. Imagine selecting the sh**test Rovers manager of all time and then sitting in the boardroom and going ok all we need is not to bring in someone who will break that record and it will be an improvement and then finding one who does. And then, doing it again. Absolute circus. called the widdrington syndrome |
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Post by aghast on Sept 14, 2021 19:03:43 GMT
You have to hand it to the board. Imagine selecting the sh**test Rovers manager of all time and then sitting in the boardroom and going ok all we need is not to bring in someone who will break that record and it will be an improvement and then finding one who does. And then, doing it again. Absolute circus. called the widdrington syndrome He's been our best manager since GC left. |
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Post by Icegas on Sept 14, 2021 19:39:06 GMT
I'm 39, so I've been following Rovers since 1993 so not so young really in watching Rovers terms. Name 5 managers worse than BG? The only ones that I remember even being close to BG in nearly 30 years following us are. 1) Ray Graydon 2 John Ward ( 2nd time) 3) Mark Mcgee 4) Paul Buckle.. I know BG was not my Girlfriend,what a stupid thing to say.He was a truely shocking football manager that will go down as one of our worse, if not our worst ever based on stats alone. And I meant Barton was passionate before he come here, that's why I said when/before he was appointed. Using win ratio as the metric and ruling out caretakers.. The 5 worst managers in the last 30 years are: 5. Paul Tisdale (26.2%) 4. Joey Barton* (22.2%) updated from 16.7% currently recorded on Wiki after 24 games3. Ben Garner (18.2%) 2. Dave Penney (15.4%) 1. Martin Dobson (8.3%) * - Not out Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Bristol_Rovers_F.C._managers Also I note John Ward has had both his tenures combined in the Wiki table which will obviously have lifted his win % .. although he did very well in the first part of his second stint.. seem to recall him taking us from the relegation zone to a play off charge...In fact after BG I would say John Ward 2nd period was our worst manager ever, maybe not stat wise, but it was his team that took us out of the football league in 2014 even tho DC was in charge of the last 8 games. I will never forget how Ward threw DC under the bus at the outside of the Memorial gates after that Mansfield game when he was talking to a thousand or so gasheads. He told us " Well I wasn't in charge for the last 8 games" 👎🖕🤔🤬😷🏃 |
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Post by seanclevedongas on Sept 16, 2021 17:31:03 GMT
Swindon Town: League Two club given suspended three-point deduction
Swindon Town have been handed a suspended three-point deduction by the English Football League over the non-payment of player wages in June.
The sanction will only come into effect if the club breaches the regulation again on or before 30 June, 2022.
The League Two club were in a legal battle over its ownership when it failed to pay the players on time.
Australian businessman Clem Morfuni took over in July after buying the shares off former chairman Lee Power.
"This is an issue that was inherited from previous ownership and all players and staff have now been paid what they were owed, and they now continue to be paid on time," Swindon said in a statement.
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Post by wertongas on Sept 16, 2021 22:19:47 GMT
I'm 39, so I've been following Rovers since 1993 so not so young really in watching Rovers terms. Name 5 managers worse than BG? The only ones that I remember even being close to BG in nearly 30 years following us are. 1) Ray Graydon 2 John Ward ( 2nd time) 3) Mark Mcgee 4) Paul Buckle.. I know BG was not my Girlfriend,what a stupid thing to say.He was a truely shocking football manager that will go down as one of our worse, if not our worst ever based on stats alone. And I meant Barton was passionate before he come here, that's why I said when/before he was appointed. Using win ratio as the metric and ruling out caretakers.. The 5 worst managers in the last 30 years are: 5. Paul Tisdale (26.2%) 4. Joey Barton* (22.2%) updated from 16.7% currently recorded on Wiki after 24 games3. Ben Garner (18.2%) 2. Dave Penney (15.4%) 1. Martin Dobson (8.3%) * - Not out Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Bristol_Rovers_F.C._managers Also I note John Ward has had both his tenures combined in the Wiki table which will obviously have lifted his win % .. although he did very well in the first part of his second stint.. seem to recall him taking us from the relegation zone to a play off charge...And three of those managers are our last three managerial appointments, doesn't that tell you how poor the decision making has been from the current board, surely they have to take at least some of the blame for the current mess. |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Oct 2, 2021 16:41:10 GMT
The ghost of Garner has come back to haunt us. Maybe he will go on to do well. Swindon played well to be fair.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Oct 2, 2021 16:43:11 GMT
The ghost of Garner has come back to haunt us. Maybe he will go on to do well. Swindon played well to be fair. I fully expect FGR, Swindon and Port Vale to get promoted this year, just to show us what a bunch of lady gardens we are. |
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Post by gasandelectricity on Oct 2, 2021 16:43:26 GMT
The ghost of Garner has come back to haunt us. Maybe he will go on to do well. Swindon played well to be fair. Difficult to tell because we are so awful but his side seemed hungry and well organised. Still one of our worst managers though that’ll never change. |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Oct 2, 2021 16:44:46 GMT
The ghost of Garner has come back to haunt us. Maybe he will go on to do well. Swindon played well to be fair. Difficult to tell because we are so awful but his side seemed hungry and well organised. Still one of our worst managers though that’ll never change. I wasn't against him to start with but soon changed. It seems obvious that he is a good coach but still to prove as a manager. Fair play to him today, he certainly seems a more decent bloke than Joey. |
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Post by garythegas on Oct 2, 2021 16:51:38 GMT
Difficult to tell because we are so awful but his side seemed hungry and well organised. Still one of our worst managers though that’ll never change. I wasn't against him to start with but soon changed. It seems obvious that he is a good coach but still to prove as a manager. Fair play to him today, he certainly seems a more decent bloke than Joey. So would 99.9% of the human race |
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Post by stapletongas on Oct 2, 2021 17:07:10 GMT
I think what we've seen is the difference between BG being a first team coach under a director of football structure with TW sourcing and recruiting players then saying to BG go and coach that lot and then BG being appointed as a manager, recruiting his own, having more senior players and having more control.
Night and day.
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Post by 4d on Oct 2, 2021 18:43:48 GMT
I’m just outright confused to be honest. The intelligentsia on here said Garner was a PE teacher who would never get another managers job and then when he did were delighted as that was 6 easy points for Rovers and one of the relegation spots sorted.
I’m therefore waiting for the EFL to add on our 3 points for today but still nothing?!?!
Confusion reigns.
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Post by pirate on Oct 2, 2021 19:04:44 GMT
I think what we've seen is the difference between BG being a first team coach under a director of football structure with TW sourcing and recruiting players then saying to BG go and coach that lot and then BG being appointed as a manager, recruiting his own, having more senior players and having more control. Night and day. Garner is head coach and working under a director of football structure at Swindon. The myth of not having senior players here is also still being perpetuated, despite the fact we had the likes of Jaakola, Baldwin, Ehmer, Nicholson, Rodman, Upson, Ogogo, Oztumer and others to pick from. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 2, 2021 22:42:36 GMT
I think what we've seen is the difference between BG being a first team coach under a director of football structure with TW sourcing and recruiting players then saying to BG go and coach that lot and then BG being appointed as a manager, recruiting his own, having more senior players and having more control. Night and day. So why did Westbrook, one of BG's high profile signings, suggest BG's PowerPoint presentation convinced him to sign? |
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Oct 2, 2021 22:48:21 GMT
Mathematicians & Statisticians. I'm curious. Statistically speaking, on a forum that is lets say 80% sh** and drivel, what is the likelihood the top contributors are posting sh** and drivel?
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Post by RD on Oct 2, 2021 22:55:40 GMT
Mathematicians & Statisticians. I'm curious. Statistically speaking, on a forum that is lets say 80% sh** and drivel, what is the likelihood the top contributors are posting sh** and drivel? I'm a statistician. I can confirm, 108.4%. |
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Post by stapletongas on Oct 3, 2021 8:07:03 GMT
I think what we've seen is the difference between BG being a first team coach under a director of football structure with TW sourcing and recruiting players then saying to BG go and coach that lot and then BG being appointed as a manager, recruiting his own, having more senior players and having more control. Night and day. So why did Westbrook, one of BG's high profile signings, suggest BG's PowerPoint presentation convinced him to sign? Because BG was doing his job as per the mandate under which he was employed I would imagine. |
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