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Post by fatherbrown on Aug 9, 2022 10:36:24 GMT
Better the devil you know, than you don't know Do you mean 'than the devil you don't' ?! yes indeed, you are obviously in the know, and the devil is in the detail.
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Post by trueblur4u on Aug 9, 2022 10:41:51 GMT
Rovers are hardly likely to have many new supporters if the club remains at the Memorial Ground. Just say the club were to attain another promotion, where are all the extra fans going? I am not sure Rovers would cope financially in the Championship.
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Post by keygas on Aug 9, 2022 10:43:18 GMT
hi chaps i for one would be gutted if steve lansdown went as i like the club to be in a safe pair of hands. Granted on the pitch many mistakes has been made but of the pitch the man has done a great job and most of all put his money in to give us a chance of dreaming. Yes still dreaming. The only way he would sell up and has made this quite clear is if someone younger and with more wealth and ambition to take the club further i do find it funny when you chaps take the p/// with your set up.if im honest i dont think we are that far apart on the pitch but off the pitch we are miles ahead.back when i first followed in 1980 we both average about the same over them years we now double your attendance quite easy and before you say we are in the championship for the last few years we have been a struggling championship side and yes this year is a worry. You have a owner who fair play has wiped alot of your debts but everything else thats been talked about seems to be pye in the sky.as i have said on here before unlike some of my fellow ziderheads i miss the bristol derby as theres not many games get my heart pumping like it.cardiff swansea,reading or brum just dont come close for me and thats given you boys credit which i try not to do to often lol tinman hat at the ready Even though I can’t argue with much you say in this post, I do find it funny for the first time in ages, the boots slightly on the other foot & were giving your club a bit of banter, that you need to come on here & make a comment, obviously touched a nerve somewhere. Especially as on your forum the thread on basement Rovers is reaching nearly 3000 pages, which must be embarrassing & cringeworthy to a seemingly sensible person like yourself.
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Post by playtowin on Aug 9, 2022 11:37:55 GMT
There’s plenty of football supporters in Bristol. The sad reality is the majority of them support teams that are about 175 miles away in the premier league and have no connection to them whatsoever other than they’ve won trophies. I've said this many times before, I do not understand Bristolian football fans who adopt teams miles away in another city, just because they win trophies. Glory hunting armchair supporters who never attend their team's matches. Surely to them football is just a TV programme. It's sad because the real football experience is supporting a team in your home city/town/village, who you can watch at least every home game, experience the real living breathing thing and above all else just be there. If all these football fans supported Rovers or City, we would have one or both clubs in the top flight, then football would mean something to them! I would rather see a kid in Bristol walking around the city in a City shirt than a Man U/Arsenal/Liverpool etc etc shirt. Obviously prefer a Rovers shirt though I used to think similar. Preferring to see young uns in BCFC1982LTD kits to liverpool ones. However ,on reflection . Those who choose the darkside are not likely to crossover to watch Rovers. Whilst a Bristolian wannabe scouser is more likely to follow Rovers or city if they do well. With the liverpool thing becoming a 2nd team or Rovers becoming their 2nd team.
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Post by Gastafari on Aug 9, 2022 11:41:52 GMT
You seem to live in the past Topper. It's like because something hasn't happened before it can never happen. Well it can. What is "a football city" out of interest. I know plenty of people in and around Bristol who love football. Maybe it's not a "football city" because we haven't been successful. It wasn't long ago people were saying football isn't a sport for girls... There’s plenty of football supporters in Bristol. The sad reality is the majority of them support teams that are about 175 miles away in the premier league and have no connection to them whatsoever other than they’ve won trophies. Both Bristol clubs being sh**e for pretty much all their history, doesn't help that.
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Post by keygas on Aug 9, 2022 12:07:03 GMT
Can’t deny that Bristol football has been sh*t for years , but I still think the interest & hunger is still there & I always laugh when people say it’s more of a rugby city When you consider that In the last 10 days a combined total of 33000 people have watched the 2 Bristol clubs home games & Rovers opening match , judging by the amount of people on social media who were still trying to get tickets leading up to & on the day of the match which had sold out a couple of weeks earlier, that total would have been far greater.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Aug 9, 2022 12:36:59 GMT
Rovers are hardly likely to have many new supporters if the club remains at the Memorial Ground. Just say the club were to attain another promotion, where are all the extra fans going? I am not sure Rovers would cope financially in the Championship. I think I read that if we were to stay in the Championship for 3 seasons (not been done in my lifetime) the ground would have to be all-seater?
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Post by Gastafari on Aug 9, 2022 12:39:56 GMT
I've said this many times before, I do not understand Bristolian football fans who adopt teams miles away in another city, just because they win trophies. Glory hunting armchair supporters who never attend their team's matches. Surely to them football is just a TV programme. It's sad because the real football experience is supporting a team in your home city/town/village, who you can watch at least every home game, experience the real living breathing thing and above all else just be there. If all these football fans supported Rovers or City, we would have one or both clubs in the top flight, then football would mean something to them! I would rather see a kid in Bristol walking around the city in a City shirt than a Man U/Arsenal/Liverpool etc etc shirt. Obviously prefer a Rovers shirt though I've been to Anfield more times than two Bristol based Liverpool fans I worked with added together. They used to take the mickey out of a City fan in the department but at least he supported his local team and actually watched them live. I suspect many are 'soft' City or Rovers fans and just want to support a team succeeding. If either made it to the Prem or had a Cup Final, just watch them swap shirts and feign allegiance to get a ticket and a day out. I think Bristol as a City has been so starved of any real Footballing success from it's 2 local Football teams, they try and find it from elsewhere.
Sometimes I actually can't blame them, just look at the state of the grounds we've been playing in for nearly 4 decades without any improvementS, Not very enticing is it?
When both Bristol Clubs have had a bit of success relative to the clubs, the locals do turn out.
When City got to the top flight in the late 70's, they had crowds of 37k. However within about 5 years they were averaging under 5k. That's a loss of about 30k fans if you take into account away support. Where the hell did 30k fans just dissapear too? That's actually staggering.
When Rovers had their best period in the mid 50's, we were getting crowds of over 35k at Eastville. By the early 60's however we were averaging about 10k, again where did 25k fans go?
Both clubs can attract fans when we have a bit of success or if we play in Wembley Finals etc. I think a bigger problem for both clubs is enticing them to stay!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2022 12:43:54 GMT
Gloucester and Bath for me are far bigger for Rugby that Bristol is. (Sorry Rugby Fans if I'm wrong).
I know Bristol is a bigger City than both of these, but for me its also the massive non-league presence Bristol has, Manor Farm, Brislington, Mangos, Hengrove, Roman Glass to name but a few.
Some of these teams pay a lot of money for their first team players, it shocked me recently. There a a few sleeping giants in Bristol that ok are a long way from League football, but its only complacency by Rovers or City and a local person /group with a love of one of these clubs and a few quid to one day challenge at Conference level.
Some of these teams have some pretty good crowds so definitely a lot of potential support out their in Bristol.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Aug 9, 2022 12:46:43 GMT
Mixed feelings on this. The filth were lucky to have the stinking turncoat arrive on their doorstep. Hopefully he won't pull a massive rabbit out of the hat and they become the next Brentford / Fulham and get mahoosive investment from some outside source. On armchair fans, had 2 golden rules. If you drive past 2 football league teams to get to a glory team you should be ashamed of yourself. Would sooner see kids and armchair fans wearing Chelsea / Man Utd / Man City shirts than filth shirts as this means they haven't given the filth any money. (I realise this is a flawed logic, in a black and white world) * 'em. I wouldn’t want to see any team go out of business and would rather see a local team supported than the plethora of prem and greedy clubs. The money some spend, to go to watch prem teams is beyond me.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Aug 9, 2022 12:53:11 GMT
Can’t deny that Bristol football has been sh*t for years , but I still think the interest & hunger is still there & I always laugh when people say it’s more of a rugby city When you consider that In the last 10 days a combined total of 33000 people have watched the 2 Bristol clubs, & Rovers opening match , judging by the amount of people on social media who were still trying to get tickets leading up to & on the day of the match which had sold out a couple of weeks earlier, that total would have been far greater. The 82, 13k season tickets,us , 5k. We have sold out due to the promotion and some clever marketing. Go back to the halcyon days of working classes, attending and they always had more. I see all or most of ther younger kids in Kingswood, in red shirts. That would not have happened going back to the early 80’s and before. I don’t think it would be far greater but it would be an extra couple of thousand. If we keep on pushing for the top then more will come our way. Winning football attracts fans
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2022 13:02:15 GMT
Can’t deny that Bristol football has been sh*t for years , but I still think the interest & hunger is still there & I always laugh when people say it’s more of a rugby city When you consider that In the last 10 days a combined total of 33000 people have watched the 2 Bristol clubs, & Rovers opening match , judging by the amount of people on social media who were still trying to get tickets leading up to & on the day of the match which had sold out a couple of weeks earlier, that total would have been far greater. The 82, 13k season tickets,us , 5k. We have sold out due to the promotion and some clever marketing. Go back to the halcyon days of working classes, attending and they always had more. I see all or most of ther younger kids in Kingswood, in red shirts. That would not have happened going back to the early 80’s and before. I don’t think it would be far greater but it would be an extra couple of thousand. If we keep on pushing for the top then more will come our way. Winning football attracts fans In the cold light of day. Bingo!!! you aren't wrong Kingswood Polak, it is all about winning matches.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Aug 9, 2022 14:47:34 GMT
Some people/clubs/fans don't know how lucky they are ....
Not just one rich benefactor from the area, but 2 in the space since last war...what other club can boast such accolades?
And all the while, The Ashton 8, Des Williams etc have helped their cause to where they are now. Even in Div 1 which took AD years to achieve, it was a pyrrhic victory because only able to finish below half way in a few seasons, a conspiracy to not get relegated on last day and subsequent relegations breaking records led a few years later to bankruptcy.
You know what? Some of their fans emulate their sad club, the snide rich kid at school, but ultimately where has it got them?
I wouldn't swap anything. Sometimes your club chooses you. The culture is very different here. ....I hope!?
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 9, 2022 15:00:32 GMT
It's not only the present debt but also buying out Lansdown and then meeting the annual debts, if a billionaire City fan can't afford it then who can? It sounds like Lansdown has been looking for investors for a couple of years and hasn't found any so far. Not sure Bristol will ever be that attractive as we have no real history of being a football city. You seem to live in the past Topper. It's like because something hasn't happened before it can never happen. Well it can. What is "a football city" out of interest. I know plenty of people in and around Bristol who love football. Maybe it's not a "football city" because we haven't been successful. It wasn't long ago people were saying football isn't a sport for girls... What's living in the past got to do with City not being able to find a buyer now, the fact buyers were lining up to buy Newcastle and Derby proves my point.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Aug 9, 2022 15:23:31 GMT
You seem to live in the past Topper. It's like because something hasn't happened before it can never happen. Well it can. What is "a football city" out of interest. I know plenty of people in and around Bristol who love football. Maybe it's not a "football city" because we haven't been successful. It wasn't long ago people were saying football isn't a sport for girls... What's living in the past got to do with City not being able to find a buyer now, the fact buyers were lining up to buy Newcastle and Derby proves my point. What is your point exactly? Of course they could find a buyer, it's just about meeting what someone would want to pay vs Lansdown's valuation, a bit like selling and buying a house.
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Post by nsblue on Aug 9, 2022 16:10:39 GMT
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Post by yattongas on Aug 9, 2022 17:42:12 GMT
Your not wrong there. I think you hit the nail on the head though with seeing the Kids with a City or Rovers shirt on. Because that is the way forward for both Bristol Clubs, and the city does deserve to be on MOTD Saturday night / Sunday Morning. Both my kids first matches were at the Gas in the Blackthorn and ever since are 100% GAS still going together with me tagging along. (Albeit, with their mates at the back.) One point though , I follow and support the GAS and made sure both boys follow their local team which I'm relived they do. However I'm a Saints fan as I've said before because my first match was with my dad at the Dell even though I've lived in Bristol now for over 40 years. Believe you me I definitely dont support the Saints because they win trophies!!!!!!! This is why we have to get kids into the Mem as early as possible, so that their local allegiance is engrained in them before TV football. Many will have a soft spot for a top flight team, I do, but that’s all it’s meanwhile Rovers are anyways will be my club. Born in the shadows of Eastville Stadium and brought up with it engrained in me. Quid a kid should be standard at home games and let visiting fans have it too. Sats 12.30 kickoff should help with getting the kids in early.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 9, 2022 21:15:45 GMT
This is why we have to get kids into the Mem as early as possible, so that their local allegiance is engrained in them before TV football. Many will have a soft spot for a top flight team, I do, but that’s all it’s meanwhile Rovers are anyways will be my club. Born in the shadows of Eastville Stadium and brought up with it engrained in me. Quid a kid should be standard at home games and let visiting fans have it too. If we're virtually selling out every home game why would we throw away money by letting kids in for £1, plus want do we gain by letting away teams kids in for a £1?
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Post by yattongas on Aug 9, 2022 21:27:49 GMT
If we're virtually selling out every home game why would we throw away money by letting kids in for £1, plus want do we gain by letting away teams kids in for a £1? Because kids are the future and there’s a cost of living crisis going on . 🙄
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 9, 2022 21:40:39 GMT
If we're virtually selling out every home game why would we throw away money by letting kids in for £1, plus want do we gain by letting away teams kids in for a £1? Because kids are the future and there’s a cost of living crisis going on . 🙄 Clearly the COLC is affecting our ticket sales at present.
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