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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Dec 15, 2022 12:52:21 GMT
If Mangan was challenging the alleged spy, who was meant to have been filming around the back changing room door, is it not possible this has been caught on camera?
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Post by baggins on Dec 15, 2022 13:20:23 GMT
If Mangan was challenging the alleged spy, who was meant to have been filming around the back changing room door, is it not possible this has been caught on camera? All a load of he said she said if you ask me.
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Post by pirate on Dec 15, 2022 13:26:06 GMT
If Mangan was challenging the alleged spy, who was meant to have been filming around the back changing room door, is it not possible this has been caught on camera? All a load of he said she said if you ask me.
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Dec 15, 2022 13:30:35 GMT
If Mangan was challenging the alleged spy, who was meant to have been filming around the back changing room door, is it not possible this has been caught on camera? All a load of he said she said if you ask me. It is, as long as it’s not on camera
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Post by baggins on Dec 15, 2022 13:32:43 GMT
All a load of he said she said if you ask me. It is, as long as it’s not on camera Ah, camera. That takes me back.
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Post by wrongsideoftheriver on Dec 15, 2022 14:16:46 GMT
nothing to see here, move it on.
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Post by kruger on Dec 15, 2022 15:08:31 GMT
It could have been something like 'what are you doing filming us do you fancy us or something' Sh1!heads obviously loving this as always.
Hate the fact some people find you guilty until proven innocent, what the hell is this world coming to.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2022 15:21:41 GMT
Glad this statement has been released because the posts on here alone would of already written Mangan off as guilty before actually getting all the facts
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Post by dudelebowski on Dec 15, 2022 15:24:50 GMT
Glad this statement has been released because the posts on here alone would of already written Mangan off as guilty before actually getting all the facts Way of the modern world isn’t it. Accusation = Guilt
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Dec 15, 2022 15:35:53 GMT
If Mangan was challenging the alleged spy, who was meant to have been filming around the back changing room door, is it not possible this has been caught on camera? Eh? This completely passed me by - somebody filming us secretly at Home Park?
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Post by percy on Dec 15, 2022 15:37:23 GMT
Glad this statement has been released because the posts on here alone would of already written Mangan off as guilty before actually getting all the facts Not sure i've seen many that have written him off as guilty? People read want they want to get mad about sometimes it seems Personally, glad the club have come out with a quick statement, backing Mangan and reiterating there is no place for homophobia etc Let's hope that proves to be the case and the focus turns to what the hell Plymouth were doing filming our changing room at half time!
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Post by kentgas on Dec 15, 2022 16:11:04 GMT
Should all add a little something to the Pizza Cup game if Argyle get through.
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Dec 15, 2022 16:30:47 GMT
Somewhat odd comments, as it sounds like you're suggesting it's OK to make homophobic comments just as long as nobody reports it to the FA. Just when JB's finally cleared his name we're now back in the headlines again. Not sure that JB cleared his name, his last case has been Stayed so can be reopened at any time if a witness wants to change their mind and give evidence. That said, not good publicity once again for what once promoted itself as an inclusive family club. We have always had one or two amongst the supporters who let the family down but not amongst those running the club and team. JB's case was Stayed by the Judge because he was of the opinion that JB would not receive a fair trial - in other words the CPS made a pig's ear of it. Not sure that a witness changing their mind about giving a Statement would reverse the cock up by the CPS regarding correct use of procedures. The Judge said: "I am satisfied the position adopted by the Crown not to take a statement or call Mrs Barton is at odds with the case law. I am satisfied Mr Barton would be unable to achieve a fair trial in these circumstances and the proceedings are stayed."Legal explanation below (from the CPS website):- In Crawley [2014] EWCA Crim 1028, the Court of Appeal clearly set out the scope of the two potential limbs that a stay for abuse of process can be brought under: 1. Where the court concludes that the accused can no longer receive a fair hearing - This focuses on the trial process itself; 2. Where it would be unfair to try the accused or, put another way, where a stay is necessary to protect the integrity of the criminal justice system – This is where the Court considers that the accused should not be standing trial at all, irrespective of the potential fairness of the trial itself. It was emphasised that there is a strong public interest in the prosecution of crime and therefore ordering a stay of proceedings is a remedy of last resort. It was observed that: “cases in which it may be unfair to try the accused (the second category of case) will include, but are not confined to, those cases where there has been bad faith, unlawfulness or executive misconduct. In such a case, the court is concerned not to create the perception that it is condoning malpractice by law enforcement agencies or to convey the impression that it will adopt the approach that the end justifies the means: the touchstone is the integrity of the criminal justice system”.
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Dec 15, 2022 16:36:05 GMT
If Mangan was challenging the alleged spy, who was meant to have been filming around the back changing room door, is it not possible this has been caught on camera? Eh? This completely passed me by - somebody filming us secretly at Home Park? Yes, I think this is how the incident came about, because a Plymouth member of staff was alleged to have been trying to spy on the team talk at half time by recording it. Hopefully this is all something out of nothing and will go away quickly. Just seems weird that there’s a charge to answer in the first place if it’s just one persons word against another’s.
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 15, 2022 17:03:47 GMT
Eh? This completely passed me by - somebody filming us secretly at Home Park? Yes, I think this is how the incident came about, because a Plymouth member of staff was alleged to have been trying to spy on the team talk at half time by recording it. Hopefully this is all something out of nothing and will go away quickly. Just seems weird that there’s a charge to answer in the first place if it’s just one persons word against another’s. Where's this rumour come from as I can't recall it being mentioned on here before the FA charge? As other's have said if the team talk was being recorded then surely AM's comments would have been recorded? Given the number of people likely to have been around the changing rooms at half time it's unlikely to be just one person's word against another, unless if happened in the tunnel again!!
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Post by dudelebowski on Dec 15, 2022 17:22:36 GMT
So basically Mangan is alleged to have openly used homophobic terminology in front of an entire squad and club staff?
Seems likely🙄🙄
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Post by gasandelectricity on Dec 15, 2022 17:25:16 GMT
Yes, I think this is how the incident came about, because a Plymouth member of staff was alleged to have been trying to spy on the team talk at half time by recording it. Hopefully this is all something out of nothing and will go away quickly. Just seems weird that there’s a charge to answer in the first place if it’s just one persons word against another’s. Where's this rumour come from as I can't recall it being mentioned on here before the FA charge? As other's have said if the team talk was being recorded then surely AM's comments would have been recorded? Given the number of people likely to have been around the changing rooms at half time it's unlikely to be just one person's word against another, unless if happened in the tunnel again!! On the post website.
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 15, 2022 17:38:27 GMT
Where's this rumour come from as I can't recall it being mentioned on here before the FA charge? As other's have said if the team talk was being recorded then surely AM's comments would have been recorded? Given the number of people likely to have been around the changing rooms at half time it's unlikely to be just one person's word against another, unless if happened in the tunnel again!! On the post website. Found the article, it seems unlikely it was recorded: "It surrounds an incident during Joey Barton's half-time team talk, when Mangan and captain Paul Coutts caught a member of Plymouth's matchday staff allegedly filming around the back door of the Rovers changing room. When confronted after the game by members of Barton's team, Plymouth's coaching staff denied the individual was under instruction from anyone." If the member of staff was caught by AM and PC he was lucky to just get come verbles after the match, I wonder if this is yet another case of the authorities looking to get one over JB??
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Post by bidefordgas on Dec 15, 2022 17:48:00 GMT
Quite staggering that this so say incident took place just under two months ago and the first our club and the player have heard about it was yesterday. Obviously Plymouth and the individual concerned have been supplying the league with their side of the story for quite sometime. Quite staggering this is the first time that Mangan and our club have heard about the allegation and yet they are ready to charge him. Can’t see this going any farther with the club already coming out and backing our man.
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Post by baggins on Dec 15, 2022 17:52:47 GMT
Glad this statement has been released because the posts on here alone would of already written Mangan off as guilty before actually getting all the facts Again.
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