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Post by woolavingtonpirate on Dec 15, 2022 17:58:27 GMT
I thought there was a law around filming people without thier permission? Does sound a bit odd or even pervertive? I think I'd be putting in a complaint to the F.A. Plenty of safeguarding issues in this one.
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Post by dmacca65 on Dec 15, 2022 18:02:04 GMT
Oh dear-e-me here we go again, unless every derogatory comment of any kind becomes a problem (especially unfounded) then please don't call out or play the holier-than-thou over selected agenda's, human nature dictates that its very unlikely that we will have a utopianism world anytime soon so lets not pretend its going to happen!
Homophobia & Ism's are so very easy to call and at this moment in time unfounded accusations can result in unfair outcomes, the HTT's out there who love to chirp the loudest no matter guilt proven or not need to look at themselves.
Ask yourselves this question, have you ever been disrespectful in anyway whatsoever, I doubt it very much?
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Post by farmygas on Dec 15, 2022 18:24:26 GMT
One of Barton's pals turns out to be a piece of sh** that brings the club into disrepute imagine my shock.
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Post by farmygas on Dec 15, 2022 18:25:47 GMT
ThIS iS aLl ThE wOkE bRiCkAdE!!!÷
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Post by dudelebowski on Dec 15, 2022 18:33:17 GMT
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Jesus h Christ
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Post by DrFaustus on Dec 15, 2022 18:39:19 GMT
One of Barton's pals turns out to be a piece of sh** that brings the club into disrepute imagine my shock. How has Andy brought the club into disrepute? How has Joey for that matter? A simple concept in this fine country of ours, is innocent until proven guilty. Thankfully, people like you and those who have beef with the club like ex directors, aren't judge and jury.
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Post by rememberhalifax on Dec 15, 2022 19:55:27 GMT
So on the one hand farmgas is using less than flattering language to describe A member of Rovers staff, and on the other hand admonishing said staff member for an 'ALLEGED' use of derogatory language? Mmm i am sure there is a bit of double standards in play here? could be accused of bringing this forum into disrepute?
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 15, 2022 20:34:24 GMT
Quite staggering that this so say incident took place just under two months ago and the first our club and the player have heard about it was yesterday. Obviously Plymouth and the individual concerned have been supplying the league with their side of the story for quite sometime. Quite staggering this is the first time that Mangan and our club have heard about the allegation and yet they are ready to charge him. Can’t see this going any farther with the club already coming out and backing our man. Unless I've missed something where does it say the club and (I assume you meant) assistant manager only heard about it yesterday? It looks like there has been an investigation by the FA where Manger's been asked to give his side of the story and as a result of the investigation the FA have now decided to charge Manger. Not sure what you mean about it not going any farther as surely there'll now be a disciplinary hearing and whoever chairs that will then have to decide if Manger's guilty or not, if he's then found guilty he could well face a lengthy ban.
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Post by bidefordgas on Dec 15, 2022 20:52:50 GMT
Quite staggering that this so say incident took place just under two months ago and the first our club and the player have heard about it was yesterday. Obviously Plymouth and the individual concerned have been supplying the league with their side of the story for quite sometime. Quite staggering this is the first time that Mangan and our club have heard about the allegation and yet they are ready to charge him. Can’t see this going any farther with the club already coming out and backing our man. Unless I've missed something where does it say the club and (I assume you meant) assistant manager only heard about it yesterday? It looks like there has been an investigation by the FA where Manger's been asked to give his side of the story and as a result of the investigation the FA have now decided to charge Manger. Not sure what you mean about it not going any farther as surely there'll now be a disciplinary hearing and whoever chairs that will then have to decide if Manger's guilty or not, if he's then found guilty he could well face a lengthy ban. The club have said there has been no evidence provided to support the claim. Thst tells me the club and Mangan have not been shown any evidenceThat should tell you all you need to know. If that’s not the case why are the club backing their man.
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Post by pirate on Dec 15, 2022 20:53:20 GMT
Quite staggering that this so say incident took place just under two months ago and the first our club and the player have heard about it was yesterday. Obviously Plymouth and the individual concerned have been supplying the league with their side of the story for quite sometime. Quite staggering this is the first time that Mangan and our club have heard about the allegation and yet they are ready to charge him. Can’t see this going any farther with the club already coming out and backing our man. Unless I've missed something where does it say the club and (I assume you meant) assistant manager only heard about it yesterday? It looks like there has been an investigation by the FA where Manger's been asked to give his side of the story and as a result of the investigation the FA have now decided to charge Manger. Not sure what you mean about it not going any farther as surely there'll now be a disciplinary hearing and whoever chairs that will then have to decide if Manger's guilty or not, if he's then found guilty he could well face a lengthy ban. Away in a Manger, no crib for a bed, The little Lord Andy didn't do what they said. The stars in the sky looked down where he lay, The little Lord Andy just wanted three points away.
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Post by oliverhelmet on Dec 15, 2022 21:04:10 GMT
So on the one hand farmgas is using less than flattering language to describe A member of Rovers staff, and on the other hand admonishing said staff member for an 'ALLEGED' use of derogatory language? Mmm i am sure there is a bit of double standards in play here? could be accused of bringing this forum into disrepute? Small minded folk like farmygas and his mate baxtino Will latch onto anything to have a go and link in to their anti Barton agenda.This charge by the F.A.is 100% nothing to do with the manager,but they don’t care about that and will carry on regardless.
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Post by eric on Dec 15, 2022 21:08:24 GMT
One of Barton's pals turns out to be a piece of sh** that brings the club into disrepute imagine my shock. A piece of sh** you say? The words pot, kettle and black come to mind for some reason.
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Post by horfield on Dec 15, 2022 22:27:28 GMT
Why don't we just be patient and await for the verdict by the FA. If the boy is found guilty then we make our own our minds up about him.Innocent or guilty, we will all have have plenty to say after that.
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Post by aghast on Dec 15, 2022 22:32:57 GMT
Why don't we just be patient and await for the verdict by the FA. If the boy is found guilty then we make our own our minds up about him.Innocent or guilty, we will all have have plenty to say after that. Boy?
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Post by lastminutewinner on Dec 15, 2022 22:33:45 GMT
Why don't we just be patient and await for the verdict by the FA. If the boy is found guilty then we make our own our minds up about him.Innocent or guilty, we will all have have plenty to say after that. You cant do patience on a forum
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Post by Gasshole on Dec 15, 2022 23:05:08 GMT
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Post by gasify on Dec 15, 2022 23:12:26 GMT
sh** sticks and people like to rush to judge people without actually knowing what was said and in what context. Very easy to say that everything homophobic is reprehensible but what is homophobic is subjective. Take a conversation overheard at the weekend for instance at the PV game as to if the lyrical content of Fairytale of New York is homophobic. I believe this person to be in a position to be a very good judge on this and was discussing with someone else how the context of the word in Irish culture would be considered inoffensive but in English it would. I have no interest in the truth of that statement or debating this matter however this goes to show how nuanced this could be. Add to that he could have been misheard altogether or the claims could have been fabricated (reprehensible to do this - however it does happen) Let’s not be so quick to write people off. A modern day ill IMO. You're a bum You're a punk You're an old slut on junk Lying there almost dead on a drip in that bed You scumbag, you maggot You cheap lousy faggot Happy Christmas your arse I pray God it's our last I've always thought the song was about domestic abuse. Faggot is the homophobic word. www.theguardian.com/music/2020/dec/08/no-need-to-take-offence-to-the-word-faggotDifferent meaning, as you say.
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Dec 15, 2022 23:18:24 GMT
sh** sticks and people like to rush to judge people without actually knowing what was said and in what context. Very easy to say that everything homophobic is reprehensible but what is homophobic is subjective. Take a conversation overheard at the weekend for instance at the PV game as to if the lyrical content of Fairytale of New York is homophobic. I believe this person to be in a position to be a very good judge on this and was discussing with someone else how the context of the word in Irish culture would be considered inoffensive but in English it would. I have no interest in the truth of that statement or debating this matter however this goes to show how nuanced this could be. Add to that he could have been misheard altogether or the claims could have been fabricated (reprehensible to do this - however it does happen) Let’s not be so quick to write people off. A modern day ill IMO. You're a bum You're a punk You're an old slut on junk Lying there almost dead on a drip in that bed You scumbag, you maggot You cheap lousy faggot Happy Christmas your arse I pray God it's our last I've always thought the song was about domestic abuse. Faggot is the homophobic word. www.theguardian.com/music/2020/dec/08/no-need-to-take-offence-to-the-word-faggotDifferent meaning, as you say. The plot thickens. Are we saying that AM was singing Fairytale of New York, at Plymouth, in October, and somebody reported him to the FA?
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Post by gasify on Dec 15, 2022 23:20:41 GMT
The plot thickens. Are we saying that AM was singing Fairytale of New York, at Plymouth, in October, and somebody reported him to the FA? Shocking. Not even December and he starts on the 'C' bomb...
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Post by gasify on Dec 15, 2022 23:25:52 GMT
There is some mis understandings in this thread.
This was the home game in October.
If Mangan was homophobic then he deserves what he gets.
What the actual f**k is Argyle doing filming the half time team talk?
They should be deducted points for that. Disgraceful behavior. Is the Mangan stuff to deflect from their very low standard of professionalism.
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