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Post by knowall on Nov 21, 2017 16:40:09 GMT
Came from the same person mate. The same person who did some work at the colony. The same person who has links to just about every architect in Bristol that can arcitect, manage and build large scale projects for developers that has been asked to do it. Obviously these people will have companies they will use to carry out their projects. I can tell you this, the club are isolating themselves very quickly with quite a few local business firms because of lack of payment and the way they are treated. It’s not going well. These people are long time gas heads and only wants what’s best for rovers. Why would he lie? He has no need to. They are just fed up.
And no it wasn’t Ed Ware. Facts are becoming clearer that the ALQs aren’t willing to spend what they think or implied they would. Or they have very peculiar business methods 'Long time gas heads who want best for Rovers' - fine way of showing that by spreading rumour and falsehoods. 'Why would he lie?' - Why is he telling you or anybody else for that matter but afraid to say who he is? - And you young man should beware of posting what you 'have heard' rather than what you know to be true.
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Post by knowall on Nov 21, 2017 9:37:28 GMT
For those who may not have been there or seen this, from harrybuckle on the other forum: --------------------- "I did not personally hear it but heard from a fan that Wael did appear in the BRSC bar for a pre match question and answer session. When asked about Mem and Colony he answered that the training ground will certainly happen and payments owed to contractor for work now resolved. As for Mem re development he said it was complicated and had hit snags but refused to give further details. Does not sound like he or Chairman will appear on Having a Gas on Thursday to answer further questions from fans." ----------------------- Good on Wael for appearing in public and speaking to the fans. As for the rest, I won't comment since I posted this just for info. I also heard that Wael made an appearance. I also heard on Saturday right from the horses mouth that these agreements meant the existing contractors were being paid £1000k per week from BRFC not from DS because DS don’t even have a bank account. And that’s part of the problem. In fact the horses mouth also said that it’s not been £1k a week more like every 3 weeks but he has nearly been paid in full now. Also heard that Hani will only give £2m to build the training complex when we need more like 10m. That came from the architects doing to the drawings and plans. Basically £2m will get us 2 pitches and a set of changing rooms built and that’s about it. There is no running gas water or electric to the site so most of the £2m would be spent in just basic ground works alone. Whether this is the far eastern way of trying to do a deal or what but the more I hear the more it becomes clear that Wael has absolutely no control of what money comes into the club from his brother. There is usually a reasonable explanation for all things - but the usual suspects can be relied upon to twist everything to make things sound bad - (amazed Brexit hasn't been blamed for everything) no doubt we will all learn in due course what is what - but clearly there are things being sorted out and quoting - 'I have heard' without naming the source indicates you actually know nothing that is definite! patience is needed
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Post by knowall on Nov 20, 2017 13:23:00 GMT
Will be the next Wales manager... most likely - although an ideal candidate for Ashton Gate
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Post by knowall on Nov 20, 2017 10:54:50 GMT
At saturdays shambolic game I was given information from a club member that our manager was promised a playing budget of £4 million in the summer for a big push for championship football. He then signed his 5 year contract exstension but has not seen any of this money appear. If this is true then he/we have been badly let down.when Hamer made the “top six budget statement” it makes you wonder if He was lied to also! What the hell on?is going What is going on is people like you are making up fake rubbish and putting it on forums like this. You are doing our Club no good at all and should desist If you continue to claim this is correct then NAME the club member - if you say you can't then you or he/she must be a liar
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Post by knowall on Nov 19, 2017 20:51:09 GMT
But you highlighted on another thread we lacked a Chief Scout, isn't one of those and a team of scouts part of the "infrastructure". I assume SH dealt with all the transfer deals, if so, when did he actually deal with agents etc before joining Rovers as Chairman, a decade or so ago? How dare you assume anything? - please find out the facts or Shut Up
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Post by knowall on Nov 19, 2017 10:40:22 GMT
IMO strategies on and off the field are biting us on the backside now, and DC must carry at least one handle of the can. I feel he believed his own hype and thereby has patently shied away from help and experience in the squad and on the coaching side. He has mishandled public remonstrations of players and their futures in the past, and he has been responsible for recruitment, irrespective of budget. It has been obvious to many of us for so long that we have needed an experienced midfield shield to the back 3 or 4. DC has talents, but now is the time to bring in an experienced, respected ex- manager to take an objective,step-back overview of the playing strategy and personnel. DC can then go into the recruitment market in January with much better perspective than has been evident so far. Problem is, where do we get such a mentor for DC?one that he would listen to
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Post by knowall on Nov 19, 2017 10:16:09 GMT
Many different and plausible opinions expressed here and I too have opinions on what the team should be and changes I would make. And of course I think I know better than DC - but do I? - almost certainly not! Except for one thing which I believe the majority of posters agree on - I would like to see the same line-up for at least 5 games -home and away (subject to injury and suspension) given a chance. We would probably all select different players but regardless at least we could lay that thought to bed.
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Post by knowall on Nov 18, 2017 22:28:57 GMT
This is the same coffee that could be smelt years ago and gone cold if anyone smelt it. It only seems to becoming an issue with more people now because someone has 'promised it' Sorry but if the owners can't deliver they could at least tell us, he's now making himself, and also the club, a laughing stock yet again. We're heading for Div 2 and he talks about the Premiership being doable, you have to wonder if he's seriously off his rocker. Reading all your posts for quite some time now Topper it seems you consider you know more and can do better than the Clubs owners, manager and players. I think everyone should get behind you IF you can put more capital into the Club than the current owners, OR show us your coaching badge, OR show us your CV as a player. While we wait for any of the above perhaps we should consider the above post. "the owners cant deliver" some of us think they can - could you deliver? "he is making himself and the Club a laughing stock" really? I would say your posts are doing that for you. We're heading for div 2 - a bit of an extreme comment don't you think? "He talks about the Premiership being doable" - why is this so wrong? - ask the supporters of Brighton, Bournemouth and Swansea who might have thought it not possible once too. "wonder if he is off his rocker" - I don't but I wonder if you are! In short - lighten up and enjoy - if that is impossible try Christmas shopping for the next few Saturdays - life at the Mem will appear a whole lot better after that!!
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Post by knowall on Nov 18, 2017 12:30:22 GMT
Would shares need to be issued, if it was just to justify losses? If they have put money and spent it, then the accounts would just look bad? The profit and loss account would look just as bad if losses are funded by shares or loan but if the loan carries interest the profit and loss would look worse. Shares however make the asset position of a company stronger as shares unlike a loan do not have to be repaid. So shares make the company more solvent. When did the Rovers accounts ever look good? and for that matter when was the Company solvent without the backing of the directors? And a loan/investment could be converted to shares at any time
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Post by knowall on Nov 18, 2017 11:52:00 GMT
The allegation of interest charges has been made by Swissgas by extrapolation from the last set of accounts. Nowhere in the accounts does it say DC are charging 6% interest on a loan so he is guessing. It will be interesting to see if he is right - I happen to think his interpretation is wrong - and I believe the 'charge' is for another reason - comfort (important in the banking world}. Am I right in thinking that the charge on the Mem helps justify on paper losses and makes it harder for any kind of (hostile) take over and therefore protects DS given that they are effectively chucking money away on us until such time as we become self sustaining? Genuine question. Yes
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Post by knowall on Nov 18, 2017 10:48:50 GMT
DC gave us the loan did he? What loan? - you are falling into the same pit as others ok clever cloggs for DC read DS - regardless - what loan>
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Post by knowall on Nov 18, 2017 10:44:59 GMT
The allegation of interest charges has been made by Swissgas by extrapolation from the last set of accounts. Nowhere in the accounts does it say DC are charging 6% interest on a loan so he is guessing. It will be interesting to see if he is right - I happen to think his interpretation is wrong - and I believe the 'charge' is for another reason - comfort (important in the banking world}. DC gave us the loan did he? What loan? - you are falling into the same pit as others
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Post by knowall on Nov 18, 2017 10:40:09 GMT
I really hope so Hugo. As my past posts suggest , i always have and will continue to have confidence in wael and co but I must admit I am starting to have a few doubts. I don't know if that's to do with the general negativity on here or just listening to the dc interview on Thursday, something doesn't feel quite right at the moment surrounding the club. Yeah, I get that. But if you hadn't read any of the anti board stuff how would you feel? Small improvements at the Mem. Paying actual money for players. Development squad improving. Announcement that Colony to progress in the new year. Senior staff recruitment. All of the above are actual things that have happened and are irrefutable. Everything else is conjecture. Even the fence is being paid for now the additional work has been completed. Ok, the Mem deal fell through. Would you want WAQ to sign off on us becoming another Coventry? Even with the charge on the Mem we are no worse off than we were 2 years ago when foreclosure was looking highly likely. Excellent post - which all should reflect on - particularly the reference to Coventry
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Post by knowall on Nov 18, 2017 10:33:27 GMT
Wael has stated on tv that it is not a loan. As such why the interest charges ? The allegation of interest charges has been made by Swissgas by extrapolation from the last set of accounts. Nowhere in the accounts does it say DC are charging 6% interest on a loan so he is guessing. It will be interesting to see if he is right - I happen to think his interpretation is wrong - and I believe the 'charge' is for another reason - comfort (important in the banking world}.
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Post by knowall on Nov 17, 2017 18:29:27 GMT
Are you willing to spend 40m on a new stadium. If you aren't it's not. Simple says a nobody from Chippenham!!!
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Post by knowall on Nov 17, 2017 18:28:36 GMT
I have a crazy idea Wael! Why don’t you actually communicate with the fans of the club you say you love so much! Seriously this is a WTF to me. Have you ever tried to communicate with Wael? - thought not - it works two ways you know.
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Post by knowall on Nov 17, 2017 14:40:08 GMT
There is no other consortium waiting in the wings, and Wael would have outlined financial implications to the Family way before they shelled out the cash to buy us in the first place. When Al Quadis bought the club I think they honestly believed the UWE deal was possible but that proved not to be the case. The financial implications of owning a club with a new stadium and one which is now more or less obsolute if we we want to process means the investment they made to buy the club now look much less attractive. Result is Hani tightens the purse strings until he decides what to do. Until Hani and the family decide how they see the future of their investment then we are in limbo and developments in the pipeline will not progress. And you know this how?
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Post by knowall on Nov 17, 2017 14:34:47 GMT
On the brightside Twatola was Geoffs man not Nick's and came from one of Geoffs companies Until he changed paymaster. and Geoff once said -' if he was any good he would be working for himself not me'
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Post by knowall on Nov 17, 2017 13:42:46 GMT
Who knows if it was a bad deal for the club or just the ALQ's?I'd say it was the obvious fact they haven't post the UWE announcement, DC's latest ranting, and their apparent reluctance to make any statement to refute fans concerns. That's the point, no one knows, but let's not stand in the way of a damned good potential club ruining rumour that the easily led can believe eh? Surely that is the same thing?
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Post by knowall on Nov 17, 2017 13:37:13 GMT
Uwe was a bad deal for owners who didn't want to spend any money and use it as an excuse to f**k off imo Which is why they originally employed top people (who gave up on UWE) and spent 18 months trying to get a good deal? And if a good deal was on offer - then outside investors would have been interested - the Al-Qadi's would not have had to spend their own money In order for UWE to be a good deal for Bristol Rovers - retention of the money earnt from punters would be necessary. Without it the deal is a non-starter
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