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Post by Gas_Quarters on Jun 27, 2017 10:35:41 GMT
Surely if Stevens is any good P'boro won't let him leave after just one season/one league game? On paper he now makes LJ look a decent signing!!
That's what I thought, totally underwhelmed by the strikers we are allegedly in for, and even they are ones we cant seem to get!
Firstly, we don't really know who we are going to sign yet so no need to panic. And secondly, reserve your judgement at least until they've worn the shirt. Most people were underwhelmed by the signings of Lumley and Sweeney before they played for us. UTG!
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Post by Gas_Quarters on Jun 27, 2017 9:07:32 GMT
Don't think he fits the DC mould. I'm sure I've heard before about him having a bad attitude, playing for himself etc. Maddison is a class act. 9 goals and 18 assists last season. Will go for over a million. There's no doubting his ability but reading their forum he certainly isn't a fan favourite. He seems to divide opinion more than EH does here
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Post by Gas_Quarters on Jun 27, 2017 8:37:15 GMT
Looking at Ricky Miller - one good season and little else. Marcus Maddison looks a gem.Don't think he fits the DC mould. I'm sure I've heard before about him having a bad attitude, playing for himself etc.
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Post by Gas_Quarters on Jun 27, 2017 8:15:47 GMT
Some interesting comments on that account, it seems another Div 1 club, other than us, bid £250K for Miller and Stevenage are quoting £1.5m for Godden. I' say we're also probably after Nicholls as the players apparently a striker, MS knows him from his Exeter days and the player maybe looking to move back to the W Country. Although with just 11 goals last season he's hardly a prolific goal scorer. He said in another tweet that there had been offers for "Shaq, James, Smith, Bostwick, Nicholson, Stevens", no mention of Nicholls. From that list only Coulthirst, James and Stevens are strikers and I'm sure he responded to someone asking about LJ that it wasn't him. So that would just leave Coulthirst and Stevens as the only options. Might be wrong but that's what I've picked up from his various tweets. UTG! He also said that it wasn't a transfer listed player. Going by my previous theory and the list below, that would only leave Stevens. www.theposh.com/news/2017/may/20170502-posh-announce-retained-list/
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Post by Gas_Quarters on Jun 27, 2017 8:08:44 GMT
Some interesting comments on that account, it seems another Div 1 club, other than us, bid £250K for Miller and Stevenage are quoting £1.5m for Godden. I' say we're also probably after Nicholls as the players apparently a striker, MS knows him from his Exeter days and the player maybe looking to move back to the W Country. Although with just 11 goals last season he's hardly a prolific goal scorer. He said in another tweet that there had been offers for "Shaq, James, Smith, Bostwick, Nicholson, Stevens", no mention of Nicholls. From that list only Coulthirst, James and Stevens are strikers and I'm sure he responded to someone asking about LJ that it wasn't him. So that would just leave Coulthirst and Stevens as the only options. Might be wrong but that's what I've picked up from his various tweets. UTG!
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Post by Gas_Quarters on Jun 23, 2017 11:04:07 GMT
Still maturing & growing in to a proper centre-forward! Good in the air at both ends of the pitch. This will be his year!!! Good signing. The negativity on here is beyond belief! Repeat after me: evolution not revolution.....evolution not revolution......(stop when it's sunk in - mid/end of July for some on here) Exactly! People talking about Conor Mcaleny. Everton only just released him this year at the age of 24, despite the fact that he's currently a League One level striker. They obviously potentially saw him playing Premier League football up until this year. People talk about James Alabi (playing Conference at 22), Christian Doidge (playing Conference at 24) and Matt Godden (playing League Two at 25) as young up and coming strikers. Yet Ellis (who is playing League One at 23) apparently isn't classed as one of these. Like I always say, I think people forget his age and want to give up on him already because he's been on the scene for ages, but he is still pretty young and if he works hard he will continue to improve. Give him time!
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Post by Gas_Quarters on Jun 23, 2017 10:32:05 GMT
I'd be happy if Ellis signed. You never know what you're gonna get from him but I do think its only a matter of time before he reaches his potential and starts firing.
I can't see us signing another target man type striker now though. We don't need Ellis, Gaffers and someone else to all do a similar role.
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Post by Gas_Quarters on Jun 22, 2017 13:13:49 GMT
So, someone mentioned if we are 18th in November.... Hindsight Fickleness is a horrid thing for football fans, so let's see what we as fans would have done rather than saying that if and when we are trouble. Fans often forget their convictions at that point! If no, feel free to say why and then you can say "I told you so" Fixed that for you.
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Post by Gas_Quarters on Jun 21, 2017 15:10:00 GMT
His lack of goalscoring aside I thought he was a pretty well liked player because he worked his socks off and wasn't dreadful on the ball. I understand that strikers are judged on scoring goals and I can't dispute that but I think the lad was very unlucky. As has been said previously, he hit the woodwork a couple of times, had it cleared off the line and all sorts. I've never seen a penalty taken like that (as in smashed straight down the middle) and saved before. It just wouldn't go in for the lad and I think that is as much down to bad luck as much as anything else.
I can't see him going from not scoring at all to scoring 20+ goals next season. But if he is cheap (cheap wages and no transfer fee), then I would be more than happy if we signed him. Probably a bit underwhelming if he's supposed to be leading the line, but I have faith in him to chip in with 8 to 10 goals as a squad player, playing backup to the main man.
So it's a yes from me, but only if its as a cheap option squad player. UTG!
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Post by Gas_Quarters on Jun 19, 2017 22:16:35 GMT
No I think the Conference season was his biggest challenge. Of course he would've had one of the biggest budgets in the division, but much of this was probably taken up by players already at the club. He had to sign players with very little, if any, reputation at all even at conference level. He had to turn the club around at its lowest point. He had to work with a very amateur set up and background team and had a fan base that had started turning on the club. He had to completely transform the squad from a team of has-beens who were here to pick up their pension and didn't give a sh** about the club to a team of genuine grafters who gave everything for the shirt on limited wages. And he had to do all this with the pressure of knowing he took the club down, and it could've been dead and buried had it not bounced back in its first season in non league.
This year we have apparently got a bigger budget and there is a level of expectation. The last two seasons there has been very little pressure and we have overachieved. This year is a bigger challenge than the last two but I don't think DC will ever face a bigger test as a football manager than our conference season. UTG!
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Post by Gas_Quarters on Jun 19, 2017 17:07:25 GMT
On a personal level, never. I have full faith in DC to deliver so it doesn't matter to me when he does that. But if we're talking about the forum as a whole, I think there will be a lot of panic if there's no more signings within a week of contracts ending in July. UTG!
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Post by Gas_Quarters on Jun 16, 2017 11:58:52 GMT
I can't say I agree with either of those things. Most players want to play at the highest level possible and he isn't getting any younger. It probably wouldn't take much of an incentive to convince most players to move from a League Two club to a League One club other than the fact they are playing a higher level of football. And even then, who knows what sort of wages he was on at muff. I also wouldn't have called him a high profile signing last Summer, he was just one of a number of signings. Even if you think he may be 'an expensive bench warmer' as you put it, I don't have a problem with that. But don't express your thoughts as facts when you actually have no idea what the truth is.You're new here aren't you. Haha you'd think so wouldn't you? I often stick up for Topper and agree with a lot of the things he says, just the way he puts his point across often leaves much to be desired.
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Post by Gas_Quarters on Jun 16, 2017 11:16:55 GMT
You obviously know how much he is getting paid. Care to share? Why, it's obvious to most football followers Hartley wouldn't have left Plymuff without being offered a decent contract by a Div 1 side. Plus he was one of last summer's high profile recruits by DC. I can't say I agree with either of those things. Most players want to play at the highest level possible and he isn't getting any younger. It probably wouldn't take much of an incentive to convince most players to move from a League Two club to a League One club other than the fact they are playing a higher level of football. And even then, who knows what sort of wages he was on at muff. I also wouldn't have called him a high profile signing last Summer, he was just one of a number of signings. Even if you think he may be 'an expensive bench warmer' as you put it, I don't have a problem with that. But don't express your thoughts as facts when you actually have no idea what the truth is.
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Post by Gas_Quarters on Jun 16, 2017 8:40:18 GMT
I definitely can't see that happening. If Blackpool want to sign him and PH wants to leave, then we're doing them both a favour by releasing him when he's still under contract. If we let him go to them on a free then we've got rid of a player off the wage books that DC maybe doesn't really want, Blackpool get an under contract player for nothing, and Hartley could possibly get the same wages, a nice little signing on fee and the promise of more game time. Everybody wins!! DC must be desperate to get PH off the wage bill, as otherwise he's going to be an expensive bench warmer this season behind at least AN Other and Burns. You obviously know how much he is getting paid. Care to share?
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Post by Gas_Quarters on Jun 16, 2017 7:13:58 GMT
Losing another experienced out-of-contract striker, yet gifting contract security to his mate Mansell in an unnecessary role, looks like dubious priorities. Time and results will tell. So you are questioning DC's integrity? Rather you than me. As for Mansell being his "mate", let's not forget DC had no previous experience alongside his "mate" Mansell at a club. His not mate, Easter he spent time at Hartlepool with.] I personally think Mansell will have a good coaching career, he screams the type to me to go into that. I'm not sure I could see Easter as a coach and his career will hardly be progressing at his age. I agree. The ridiculous dive at Mansfield and the ridiculous elbow at Sheff Utd have stuck in my mind and convinced me that he has quite an unprofessional/immature side to him.
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Post by Gas_Quarters on Jun 16, 2017 7:00:04 GMT
Fee for him from Blackpool, more like were paying up part of his contract to move him on. I definitely can't see that happening. If Blackpool want to sign him and PH wants to leave, then we're doing them both a favour by releasing him when he's still under contract. If we let him go to them on a free then we've got rid of a player off the wage books that DC maybe doesn't really want, Blackpool get an under contract player for nothing, and Hartley could possibly get the same wages, a nice little signing on fee and the promise of more game time. Everybody wins!!
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Post by Gas_Quarters on Jun 15, 2017 16:19:50 GMT
Isn't he still under contract? So if true, either Blackpool are willing to pay a fee for him (which would surprise me) or DC just wants him off the wage bill so is willing to let him go?
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Post by Gas_Quarters on Jun 14, 2017 21:13:55 GMT
They turned down a fee for him in January and then released him in April? Bit odd
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Post by Gas_Quarters on Jun 12, 2017 18:19:15 GMT
I do get frustrated sometimes when it takes us ages to sign players in the Summer window. Just like I get as frustrated with DC as much as anyone else does about some of the things he does that are a bit different/odd. But I just tell myself that every little strange thing he does has a very good reason behind it and the end product of his management and his record with us proves that.
I think the reasons behind him taking longer than most with his signings are: 1.) He is fussier than most when it comes to signings in the sense that they don't just need to have ability, they also need to have the right attitude and fit in with the rest of the squad. 2.) He wants value for money. I'm not sure about last season, but I'm sure that in his two promotion campaigns he worked on a very tight budget and had to get value for money with every player that he signed. Whether the playing budget is much bigger now or not, I think he will continue to try and do that and that is a good thing imo.
I'm sure it'll be another long, frustrating Summer but I'm hoping and I'm optimistic that DC will get it right AGAIN and we will have a successful season AGAIN. UTG!
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Post by Gas_Quarters on Jun 5, 2017 13:51:03 GMT
Well done Tom! He's come a long way in the last few years. Shows what can happen when you have the right attitude, work hard and put the effort in on the training ground. He's reaping the rewards now.
Also Declan John, who was mentioned on here last week, was in the squad for the training camp but has been sent home now. He's the same age as Tom and they'll probably have played together at Cardiff. I wonder if Tom's been in his ear about making the short trip across the Severn. UTG!
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