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Post by Jomo on May 14, 2021 19:27:00 GMT
Believing that he should be given the chance to bring in his own players doesnt mean anyone pro Barton thinks hes any kind of Messiah. It just means they are prepared to give him that chance exactly as some of us did with Garner this time last year. It may prove right or wrong only time will tell I'm prepared to give him that chance, but that certainly doesn't mean I'm giving him a free pass for all the unprofessional and downright damaging rants, and his results and our performances that led to us finishing comfortably bottom of the table. That's what irritates me, it's not that people want to give him a chance, I completely get that, it's the fact he's getting such an easy ride from some after what has frankly been a car crash of a tenure so far.
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Post by Jomo on May 14, 2021 19:14:35 GMT
Look he’s a smart guy he called the players out and called relegation early he knows what he’s doing. He said we weren’t good enough and culture bad and he was proved right good management. Some on here like pirate get it have faith and let him get on with it without questioning everything Are you having a fecking laugh? Seriously!? How the hell is "calling relegation early" and saying "we're not good enough" good management? He accelerated our relegation and ensured we went down quickly and easily and without a fight. If you think that's good management then you're either a WUM or you have a screw loose.
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Post by Jomo on May 14, 2021 19:11:27 GMT
It’s only since he was brought up on here I realised I don’t know a single thing about him since he left us, so I couldn’t really comment either way tbh. Somebody certainly rated him above us now tho It's now 9 clubs in the 10 years since he left us. That tells me everything I need to know. His 6th permanent club since he left us, plus 2 brief loan spells at Cambridge and Grimsby along the way. Not that bad.
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Post by Jomo on May 14, 2021 5:41:10 GMT
Embarrassing that the club have had to do that, and I'm not in the slightest bit surprised.
I have no problem with Joey thinking these things or saying them to our BoD, as he has a right to an opinion, but it simply should not be said to the press. It is slanderous and highly unprofessional and completely unbecoming of a manager in a public facing environment.
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Post by Jomo on May 13, 2021 21:44:43 GMT
Harries, Tutonda, Barrett, Daly and Ehmer That's 5
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Post by Jomo on May 13, 2021 21:35:54 GMT
Jacob Bedeau and Abo Eisa decent players released by Scunthorpe. Any idea if Scunny have released them due to poor performances or cost-cutting?
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Post by Jomo on May 13, 2021 19:50:59 GMT
Davies sounds like he would have stayed if offered a new deal. Mentioned unfinished business in his goodbye tweet. Shame we are lumbered with inferior CBs I would have offered him a new 1 year deal. Our best CB when fit without a doubt.
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Post by Jomo on May 13, 2021 19:14:29 GMT
Wes Burns from Fleeetwood and Ryan Broom Peterborough plus Sam Baldock Reading or even Brett Pittman from Swindon. You like your ex-City players then?
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Post by Jomo on May 13, 2021 19:13:30 GMT
I see Ro-Shaun Williams has been released by Shrews. Could he be a decent option at CB in L2, he's a big unit. Btw, I don't really know how well he performed this season, but still only 22 and has made a lot of appearances in L1 already.
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Post by Jomo on May 13, 2021 14:44:44 GMT
See that silly EFL Hub twitter account liking us to the released Reading right back Tennai Watson. Silly account, but decent player. Ah EFL Hub, how I have (not) missed their incessant throwing of copious amounts of sh** against a wall in the hope that by the law of averages something will eventually be right.
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Post by Jomo on May 13, 2021 14:36:21 GMT
Genuine question, what would Barton have to do or say in order for you to say "hang on, that's too much"? Evidently people are very split on what they consider to be acceptable behaviour in the press, but for Barton in particularly the line seems to be drawn in a different place, simply because of who Barton is? Maybe I'm wrong on that but it's my impression. I'm okay with most of what he's said, because we've needed somebody who will be taken notice of to shine on light on the inadequacies at the club. It's been like the Emperor's new clothes for too long, people can see what's going on but don't want to draw attention to it. I appreciate what you're saying Tilly, but my point is not what he's said as such, but the fact that he's saying it in public, which can be seriously dangerous for people's well being and professional careers. For example, if he kept it all behind closed doors, surely it would still result in the necessary action being taken, but without inciting unnecessary further anger and/or prejudice against others, that already face the consequences of their poor performances, by getting sacked/released.
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Post by Jomo on May 13, 2021 13:49:06 GMT
Let's see how far the legal action goes then, my guess is not very far. Lol. Going into the season with only three first choice strikers and then failing to add to our attacking options in January, resulting in a club record amount of games without scoring and club record home defeats, with the worst goals scored stats in the last 15 minutes and joint worst goals conceded stats in the last 15 minutes, and then getting relegated, seems like not being careful or giving enough attention to people or things that are your responsibility to me. Genuine question, what would Barton have to do or say in order for you to say "hang on, that's too much"? Evidently people are very split on what they consider to be acceptable behaviour in the press, but for Barton in particular the line seems to be drawn in a different place, simply because of who Barton is? Maybe I'm wrong on that but it's my impression.
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Post by Jomo on May 12, 2021 13:54:57 GMT
Skip to 4:06 The decision making and strategizing of the club is a total shambles. The left hand doesn't know what the right is doing. No wonder we are in such a mess. I was told by a member of staff to "trust the process" - how am I meant to "trust the process" when the people implementing 'the process' don't even trust it themselves? Total shambles. Tinpot. It's an absolute embarrassment, and the fact this wasn't brought up in Starnes' latest interview is a joke as well, and goes to show it was scripted. I want Starnes, Wael and everyone to be answerable for this absolute joke of a season, and the main question would simply be: "Do you know what you are doing?"
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Post by Jomo on May 12, 2021 13:28:04 GMT
Disgraceful how it's all been handled. Absolutely, sounds like chaos as usual. Skip to 4:06 The decision making and strategizing of the club is a total shambles.
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Post by Jomo on May 12, 2021 12:56:12 GMT
Sad to see Mansell has left. Proper Gas legend, and will always be welcome back at the Mem.
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Post by Jomo on May 12, 2021 9:10:56 GMT
True that. Plus he later was quoted as saying Brandon is not a goalscorer. Not quite sure how anyone can believe or trust what he says. He just seems to say whatever random stuff comes into his head without thinking of the potential consequences. Yeah because if you privately believe a player isn’t good enough, but you have a few games to get the best out of them, you come out and slate them instead of publicly backing them. FFS, I’m getting to be agnostic on Barton but if you pick over everyone’s words like that you’ll find whatever you want. It’s pretty obvious why a manager would do that, it’s unfair and adds noting to drag up stuff out of context to score points. Or in other words, politics. I'm not trying to score points, I'm giving my opinion of our manager. Nothing political, I want him to succeed, but in my opinion he expels a lot of hot air, and he has evidently flipped from calling a player a hot prospect in the same breath as Ivan Toney, to then saying he's not a striker only a mere few weeks later. That's not me scoring points or being political, it's an observation. Plus besides I didn't have to "drag it up" as I remembered full well him saying that in the first place. Managers and people of influence should be held to higher account than most on what they say, because it can have farther reaching consequences than just someone in a pub with a passing comment. Besides, it's not the fact that he said Hanlan was good that I find disappointing, it's the fact that he flip-flopped and then derided him only a few weeks later. Even if JB privately thought he was crap and then continued to think he is crap, coming out with stuff that could publicly humiliate our players is hardly going to get them to perform better is it? And he may lose a lot of respect from his players if they think their manager changes their public opinion of them so quickly. None of this means I want JB sacked, but he's deserving of criticism. He'd be the first one to admit that his forthright opinions are often divisive, so there should be no surprises there for him or anyone else.
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Post by Jomo on May 12, 2021 7:04:28 GMT
Agreed, although Barton claimed after the Wigan game that they were tracking him at Fleetwood. Maybe he thinks he can improve him with a decent pre-season? Although if I had to watch Hanlan pathetically throwing himself to the floor under every 50/50 challenge again next season, then I might scream. Yet he also claimed not one of the players would have got in his Fleetwood squad. Its almost as if he's full of sh*t True that. Plus he later was quoted as saying Brandon is not a goalscorer. Not quite sure how anyone can believe or trust what he says. He just seems to say whatever random stuff comes into his head without thinking of the potential consequences.
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Post by Jomo on May 12, 2021 6:56:24 GMT
Hanlan has to go. Complete donkey. Blissett mark 2. Agreed, although Barton claimed after the Wigan game that they were tracking him at Fleetwood. Maybe he thinks he can improve him with a decent pre-season? Although if I had to watch Hanlan pathetically throwing himself to the floor under every 50/50 challenge again next season, then I might scream.
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Post by Jomo on May 11, 2021 11:39:56 GMT
This is worrying. We will either be the new Millwall, everyone hating us but that just spurs us on with a f**k everyone else attitude or it will end in absolute embarrassment. Worried. We are already an embarrassment. We better get used to it.
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Post by Jomo on May 11, 2021 11:32:12 GMT
Joey continuing with his systematic dismantling of the club and totally opposite methodology to that declared by Starnes back in November. It's quite remarkable how incoherent our strategy as a club has been and how spectacularly poorly executed it's been. We literally could not have done more of a U turn if we tried!
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