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Post by Feeling The Blues on Jul 31, 2018 10:03:04 GMT
It's now seventeen months since they bought the land. In the meantime, the UWE have announced plans for a 4.5 million quid Sports Centre set to open in Oct 2018 ! UWE Centre for SportUWE BRISTOL SPORT funny that. More evidence that UWE are in Lansdowns pocket. If true it goes to show that UWE weren’t that difficult to deal with doesn’t it !
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Jul 31, 2018 7:35:21 GMT
Nothing whatsoever, just innuendo and bad assumptions from our fans Just like usual then, basically the same bunch of people who clearly don’t like or trust the Al-Qadis and will interpret any and every little thing to further convince themselves and try to convince others that they’re doing no good and everything is going wrong. The number of people who don’t like or trust the Al Qadis grows with every passing day that they don’t communicate, with every passing day that they fail to deliver on their previous promises. Goodwill towards them is diminishing not increasing and they only have themselves to blame. DC is clearly frustrated with them too. At one time they were almost universally loved but failure to deliver on the stadium and training ground and the top budget they were so vocal about and failure to communicate erodes trust, not for everyone obviously as we can see on here but for an increasing number. I believe that their situation / intention / attitude has changed and with it so has the attitude of those that work with them especially DC. If he goes or we have a bad season the atmosphere towards them will turn very poisonous and virtually all goodwill will evaporate. I’m sure that there will still be some flag wavers on here for them though!
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Jul 30, 2018 23:09:32 GMT
Back in February 2018: "To some people one month is way too long to get this project up and running," said Al-Qadi. "But we've appointed the project manager, who in turn have appointed their own team of designers and architects. "It's full steam ahead!!" And even further back during September 2016... Training ground site "is very advanced" and Chairman and Manager have walked the site of club's proposed new training ground north of the city. "We'll move in March" to new training ground says chairman Steve Hamer. Trouble is, that was March 2017!!! As if to prove that old Abe Lincoln quote; ‘You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time’
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Jul 30, 2018 18:48:10 GMT
Whining? What is whining? What is protest? Is one where you don’t agree with the sentiment and the other when you do? Are people whining about lack of gun control in the US? Are people whining about BREXIT? Anyway in answer to your question of course in football supporters can invoke change of ownership or change of attitude or change of style from the people that run their clubs but staying silent and accepting everything like sea lions clapping for their dinner during show time at Sea World will never change anything. In football people confuse criticism and asking questions of owners/ managers/ players/ club officials as not being true fans, as being moaners, as being whiners even! When in actual fact it is sensible and desirable that supporters just like shareholders of a business hold the people that are in charge to account. Keep them on their toes so they know that they cannot ride roughshod or disrespect the institution that they are mere custodians of, and to let them know that they will be held to account if they act selfishly by the shareholders or emotional shareholders as is the case of fans of a football club. There are plenty of instances of fans who are unhappy with the way that their clubs are run are invoking change. Charlton Athletic fans have been pretty united in seeing the back of their current owner and are on the brink of getting change www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/football-league/charlton-athletic-roland-duchatelet-league-one-plymouth-argyle-a8272456.html. Similar fan pressure has invoked or contributed towards change at Aston Villa and Sunderland in recent months and will hopefully yield the same at Blackpool too. The ALQs might not be as bad as some of those owners but they get an extraordinary easy ride from our fans considering they seem totally incapable or unwilling to make any progress on the two major things they promised to make a difference on when they took over. A decent stadium and new training ground. We are one year on now from them pulling out of the best chance we have ever had to have a fantastic new stadium and said they would redevelop the Mem instead and all we will have is a few hastily erected tents and no communication about anything. Yet we still have fans saying “keep the faith” and jumping down the throats of those who dare to question the ALQs. So yes those people do deserve the ALQs, their lack of communication and whatever plans selfish or otherwise they have for our beloved football club. The problem is you are making the assumption that your opinion is objectively the best one for the club and that those that disagree with you are wrong. And then you make this weird jump of logic to blame them for what you don't like about the club. Of course there's nothing wrong with protest and there's nothing wrong with debate. But know that protest is not morally correct in and of itself. You can protest a position that may or may not be correct (probably just a matter of opinion, though) but that's not the same thing. If you manage to make your views known to the AQs or whoever's in power, then fair play to you. But I'm pretty comfortable with the description of just posting it on the internet as whining. Of course fans can instigate change for the better, they can also instigate change for the worse, again it's a matter of opinion and doesn't hold moral value without context. Again, your 'best chance we ever had...' is just an opinion. The AQs have put forward the idea that they didn't think it was in our best interests. This might be a matter of opinion, but otherwise, your opinion is that they are lying to us. Again, if you want to protest and make a regime change, you might be correct and you might be successful, you might save us all from their evil lies. I don't think that those taken in by the AQs (if indeed they have been taken in) are necessarily to blame for the state of the club. They have reached an opinion based on what (little) we do know. But I would imagine they think the club has advanced more in the last few years than it has over the previous decade or so. I imagine they have seen signs of improvement. Just because we haven't got everything we wanted over a relatively short period of time, doesn't necessarily mean we will be better off under some imaginary regime that you're imagining replacing them when you protest them away. I would suggest that those who 'know' we are being taken for a ride but doing nothing about it are actually more culpable, because of course, they know the truth, and yet do nothing about it. So what have you been doing to raise yourself above the happy clapper seal fan? What have you done to protest and place yourself morally above the rest of us? What have you done to initiate regime change for the better, and again if your answer is that you post on the internet, I am quite comfortable thinking of that as whining and not the sort of brave morally superior protest that you seem to think it is. And I didn't see your protests when we were relegated to the conf. I didn't see your protests when we were being relegated from League 1. I didn't see your protests when our plans for a stadium went wrong in 2008. I didn't see your protests when we were getting f**ked over by Sainsburys, costing us millions. Maybe you were doing it on the other side of the car park. But, if you weren't protesting, by your own logic (sh** logic, admittedly), these were all your fault. A well thought out reply and yes of course all of us have a belief system that impacts on what we say and what we think. You are correct that my belief system is that I don’t automatically believe everything that I’m told by the people who own our football club. Not the current owners and not those that came before them. Sure I want to but experience shows we are fools to do so. There were plenty calling for everyone to keep the faith with Higgs and Co whilst they were behind the scenes mortgaging the club to the hilt with Wonga chasing a lost cause of a court case and jeopardising our very existence. Contrary to your insinuation of warped logic my problem isn’t so much with those that sit back and do and say nothing (except of course those that you say might be in the know that we are being taken for a ride and say nothing) it’s those that shout down those that do ask questions and that do want to hold the custodians to account and bring pressure to bear so that they don’t think they can treat the club and long standing supporters with impunity. I accept that posting concerns on an Internet forum isn’t necessarily the strongest way to hold them to account but the internet as we and the Russians all know can and does inform and influence opinion and actions. In any case what is the point of this particular forum if we can’t debate things going on at Bristol Rovers football club. We might agree or disagree with each other but mainly we want the same outcomes. I’m not blameless when it comes to giving stick to people on here but I’d like to think it’s only as a result of giving it back to people who invent stuff people say or jump on them because they ask questions of the owners. My involvement in this thread started only by making observations on the ground and the pitch and that seemed to set some of sycophantic persuasion (their belief system) right off.
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Jul 30, 2018 9:48:58 GMT
Didn’t intend to be mate it’s just as soon as anyone makes any observations about the way the club is run that doesn’t blow smoke up the ALQs collective arses out come the see no evil brigade with their snidely superior crap chat. We do have some right cuckoos amongst our support and they get the club they deserve. Shame for the rest of us though. Don't you think it might be snidely superior to suggest that those who don't criticise the board as much as you are actually responsible for the club underperforming? Are you really suggesting that those who don't whine deserve a sh** club but those who whine don't deserve it? Do you really think that if we all whined in unison to a similar level of whininess that the club would become better? Is that how you think clubs improve? Whining? What is whining? What is protest? Is one where you don’t agree with the sentiment and the other when you do? Are people whining about lack of gun control in the US? Are people whining about BREXIT? Anyway in answer to your question of course in football supporters can invoke change of ownership or change of attitude or change of style from the people that run their clubs but staying silent and accepting everything like sea lions clapping for their dinner during show time at Sea World will never change anything. In football people confuse criticism and asking questions of owners/ managers/ players/ club officials as not being true fans, as being moaners, as being whiners even! When in actual fact it is sensible and desirable that supporters just like shareholders of a business hold the people that are in charge to account. Keep them on their toes so they know that they cannot ride roughshod or disrespect the institution that they are mere custodians of, and to let them know that they will be held to account if they act selfishly by the shareholders or emotional shareholders as is the case of fans of a football club. There are plenty of instances of fans who are unhappy with the way that their clubs are run are invoking change. Charlton Athletic fans have been pretty united in seeing the back of their current owner and are on the brink of getting change www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/football-league/charlton-athletic-roland-duchatelet-league-one-plymouth-argyle-a8272456.html. Similar fan pressure has invoked or contributed towards change at Aston Villa and Sunderland in recent months and will hopefully yield the same at Blackpool too. The ALQs might not be as bad as some of those owners but they get an extraordinary easy ride from our fans considering they seem totally incapable or unwilling to make any progress on the two major things they promised to make a difference on when they took over. A decent stadium and new training ground. We are one year on now from them pulling out of the best chance we have ever had to have a fantastic new stadium and said they would redevelop the Mem instead and all we will have is a few hastily erected tents and no communication about anything. Yet we still have fans saying “keep the faith” and jumping down the throats of those who dare to question the ALQs. So yes those people do deserve the ALQs, their lack of communication and whatever plans selfish or otherwise they have for our beloved football club.
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Jul 29, 2018 23:12:12 GMT
You do like to go off on tangents and make up sh** don’t you. First it’s feeling better sitting in an empty stand now it’s that I think yesterday predicts the season we are going to have! If I was a doom merchant I wouldn’t have wasted my Saturday even going along with all of the other 1,796 doom merchants would I? I wouldn’t be spunking hundred quid on a day out to Peterborough next week would I, or £400 on a non existent season ticket? Why so salty ? Didn’t intend to be mate it’s just as soon as anyone makes any observations about the way the club is run that doesn’t blow smoke up the ALQs collective arses out come the see no evil brigade with their snidely superior crap chat. We do have some right cuckoos amongst our support and they get the club they deserve. Shame for the rest of us though.
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Jul 29, 2018 22:47:00 GMT
Make me feel better? I will be in Peterborough and the only thing that will make me feel better is a performance and result diametrically opposed to the one I witnessed yesterday. Again I made an observation that nothing is yet built on the eve of the season and a happy clapper takes offence. Don’t worry the current owners aren’t going to take your rag bag Rovers away. You made a comment that I felt was irrelevant, it has already been noted on this thread that the stands will be installed over the next couple of weeks (which makes it prior to our first HOME game), how does that make me a happy clapper, and frankly better that than a doom merchant who thinks that one pre season friendly somehow enables us to predict the whole season. You do like to go off on tangents and make up sh** don’t you. First it’s feeling better sitting in an empty stand now it’s that I think yesterday predicts the season we are going to have! If I was a doom merchant I wouldn’t have wasted my Saturday even going along with all of the other 1,796 doom merchants would I? I wouldn’t be spunking hundred quid on a day out to Peterborough next week would I, or £400 on a non existent season ticket?
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Jul 29, 2018 22:28:06 GMT
Er not sure if this is a water take or not but there are no actual improvements to take photos of except the new club shop. The SW stand has gone and now there’s just an empty space and there are no new structures on the East side. 6 days to go to new season and we have one less stand than we finished last season with, no new home kit for players or fans (old one worn yesterday), no new bar, and no season tickets. Pitch looks nice though although looks like they’ve shortened it a bit. As our first game of the season is away, surely the fact that the start of the season is six days away is irrelevant. The relevant date is that of our first home game which is 11th August, unless it would make you feel better sitting in one of the new stands while the team is playing 140 miles away. Make me feel better? I will be in Peterborough and the only thing that will make me feel better is a performance and result diametrically opposed to the one I witnessed yesterday. Again I made an observation that nothing is yet built on the eve of the season and a happy clapper takes offence. Don’t worry the current owners aren’t going to take your rag bag Rovers away.
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Jul 29, 2018 21:06:46 GMT
Er not sure if this is a water take or not but there are no actual improvements to take photos of except the new club shop. The SW stand has gone and now there’s just an empty space and there are no new structures on the East side. 6 days to go to new season and we have one less stand than we finished last season with, no new home kit for players or fans (old one worn yesterday), no new bar, and no season tickets. Pitch looks nice though although looks like they’ve shortened it a bit. We never wear the new kit in pre season games anyway ,so makes no difference.Take a tape measure next game if the pitch length is is troubling you. What are you on about? The pitch length isn’t troubling me bozo it’s just an observation.
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Jul 29, 2018 20:31:00 GMT
I appreciate this will likely turn sour but as I can't make it down the Mem until a couple of months into the new season, does anyone have any photos of the new improvements?
Notably the new North east section and club shop etc.
Just curious.
Cheers!
Er not sure if this is a water take or not but there are no actual improvements to take photos of except the new club shop. The SW stand has gone and now there’s just an empty space and there are no new structures on the East side. 6 days to go to new season and we have one less stand than we finished last season with, no new home kit for players or fans (old one worn yesterday), no new bar, and no season tickets. Pitch looks nice though although looks like they’ve shortened it a bit.
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Jul 29, 2018 20:22:15 GMT
Wasnt Nichols one? I for one still trust DC to sign a striker this week. In DC we trust and on that basis it doesnt need to be a marquee signing. the owners are making improvements which should be appreciated but were they do fall horribly wrong on is the water poor communication to the fans. Some will say that no news is not worth communicating but the current situation urgently needs clarification. If DC is in the same situation, god help us Nichols a marquee signing? No. Most of our fans had no idea who he was. I wish I still didn’t.
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Jul 29, 2018 0:55:45 GMT
I see us making a marquee signing, we havent spent too much this summer yet, okay a few signing on fees but nothing too much, i think we will get doidge tbh, one fan claiming on the fgr forum that we arent massively bigger than them which did tickle me The latest from the gumps forum: "Bristol Rovers are just another lower league West Country side and as last Saturday showed we’ve easily got a better squad than them. Do i think any of them are bigger than us? No i honestly don’t. Doidgey would be a fool to leave the new lawn." The same person reckons that the clubs that are interested in Doidge being Rovers, Sunderland and Aberdeen that;- ‘none of those teams are massively bigger than us to lure him away, so I think he’ll stay. Vince needs to hand him a 5 year contract asap’ WTF? Sunderland (let alone us) aren’t massively bigger than FGR! Really? How deluded is it possible to be? Is there some sort of world championship that this cretin can enter?
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Jul 16, 2018 20:35:49 GMT
More swearwords - charming! Some of us do know what is or could happen and your language and attitude is a good illustration why you cannot be trusted with any real confidential info. I am content to know that there is more good news to come from a Boardroom which is gradually producing good things for Gas supporters. With the utmost respect you have once again proved my point my learned friend to whom i hold no animosity.
You are among a few on here who delight in telling others you know something but will not divulge.
As others have tried (more eloquently admittedly)- why say anything at all? You are my fellow Gashead coming across (if i may so) as a trifle pompous and i'm not sure you realise it.
Regards.
Only a trifle?
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Jun 16, 2018 17:12:30 GMT
So just so I'm clear, you slate the club, I call you out on it and now its that you can't be bothered to backup your claim? If you want to call it slating fair enough but I'm generally quite positive on all things rovers, especially when the manager and players get unfair stick. Must admit to losing patience with the ground as we are nearly a year on from UWE being cancelled and no clear idea on long term plans but that's another debate! I bought up the season ticket issue because I normally renew early but this year I can't and would like to renew later even though I know it's more expensive. I still don't see why it should take so long to produce the new tickets and therefore have such an early deadline. Anyone in the same position as me or someone deciding nearer the season to get their first ever season ticket may get turned away. Surely that's not good? I raised the kit issue as we've had major problems with this previously and the problem lies with a third party provider and I wonder whether we'll be let down by a third party provider again? I’m sure you will have no problem buying and receiving a season card in time for the first game even if you don’t buy it until the day before the game. See my post above.
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Jun 16, 2018 17:01:26 GMT
Couple of points re season cards:-
Once the cards are issued there shouldn’t be a delay in issuing new cards to new season ticket holders. Most clubs sell them again at the half year point and clearly there can’t be a delay at that time. So, new season card holders in the future should get their cards quickly.
The card once received can have seasons and cup matches added to it, so you shouldn’t need a new card every year.
Other clubs also offer membership cards to non season ticket holders and matches can be loaded to the card.
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Jun 14, 2018 16:18:42 GMT
Torquay away please? I love it down there! Or the sh** at home. And how is it possible that we can get drawn away to Torquay? sh** at home is nailed on though because the sponsors will think it will give them as good a TV exposure as they could hope for in this early round. No TV coverage of the draw so it can be fixed to suit the sponsor, so don’t be surprised when we come out of the hat together tomorrow.
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Jun 11, 2018 23:29:46 GMT
Is it being broadcast anywhere? It's live text coverage only and available on the Carabao Cup twitter feed and also at EFL.com. (Easy to fix then).
It's at 10:45am (UK time).
And it WILL be fixed. The sponsors will be looking for a high profile game to give them the publicity they’ve paid for, so chances of us being drawn against the sh** are probably a whole lot higher than you might think.
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Jun 9, 2018 15:38:32 GMT
Any evidence to back this up? The Taylor report. UTG! Standing isn’t unsafe though is it? If it is how come we can do it still at the Mem? Terraces weren’t to blame for Hillsborough. The fences at the front and diabolical policing were.
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Jun 9, 2018 11:16:45 GMT
C'mon let's give the lad a break. Anyway, there is only one real team in Bristol isn't there? Calling us or the sh** “Bristol” is a pet hate for me and if anyone says it I tell them I’m not interested in the Rugby club or worse on a bad day! I have taken to calling both Manchester clubs “Manchester” though to even up the lack of respect.
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Jun 3, 2018 19:29:48 GMT
Why do you think he wouldn’t accept it? Do you think he looking for a Premier League club now Stoke have lost their place? Do you think he is going to get any offers that are better? All depends what they've offered him, if it's a 1 year deal on the same wages just so they can seek a transfer fee if he leaves, then perhaps with a signing on fee we can offer him a better deal over 2 years, along with a guarantee of being a member of a first team sqauad. If he ever updates is Insta profile pic, like Sweeney's just done, then we'll know he's unlikely to be coming back. Don’t do Instagram. I assume Sweeney is now wearing a Stoke shirt? Sweeney is not such a great loss. Really bizarre how his form changed. He hasn’t been offered a new contract at Stoke though as he is still under contract. Good job for him I’d say!
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