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Post by olskooltoteender on Nov 3, 2020 22:02:36 GMT
Garner’s lack of proactive management in matches like tonight is starting to concern me. We looked toothless & ineffective in the second half, barely created a chance, and yet all BG could muster was a few like-for-like subs (again). If a game was getting away from us under DC, he’d change the shape, give the opposition something completely new to deal with & often swing the momentum of the match in our favour. That’s management. Why not take off a CB and go 4-3-3 for the last 30 minutes tonight? At least Posh would have been caught off guard by it. But no, we just carried on in the exact same pattern as the rest of the game, with Posh getting more and more on top, and went down with a whimper. Inspiring stuff. Don’t worry though, cos it was a top team and no one expected us to get anything from the game, so really it doesn’t actually count . . .
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Post by olskooltoteender on Oct 27, 2020 20:58:55 GMT
Haven’t you got it yet? If we’re doing badly it’s not St Ben’d fault, it’s ours for expecting better; when we’re doing ok and/or winning, it’s all the work of the Messiah. And what the actual f**k gives anyone the right to refer to anyone as “Neanderthals” just because they have a different opinion? w**ker. Aimed at me I guess? We were all in the trenches together when winning by the odd goal. This is Hull City ffs, why so binary? But you’re the one being binary! You’re the one who doesn’t apparently understand that people who have concerns about Garners ability to manage and respond to changing tactical situations are allowed to have those opinions; it doesn’t mean they’re mindless haters or Neanderthals. But that’s your automatic response.
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Post by olskooltoteender on Oct 27, 2020 20:51:12 GMT
Garner out mob sharpening their pitchforks again Not at all, just pointing out the fact that he struggles to change things tactically during phases of the game when we are struggling, or introduce new faces at the right time to positively influence and avoid losing control. I guess he's learning and we all can see that thnigs are beginning to click, I just hope he is able to see that this is a weakness and address it Haven’t you got it yet? If we’re doing badly it’s not St Ben’s fault, it’s ours for expecting better; when we’re doing ok and/or winning, it’s all the work of the Messiah. And what the actual f**k gives anyone the right to refer to anyone as “Neanderthals” just because they have a different opinion? w**ker.
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Post by olskooltoteender on Oct 27, 2020 20:05:49 GMT
Dare I say it but that press is working well. Looks like I might have to stick some humble pie in the microwave 😒 You and I both. “him too . . .” “Me three . . .”
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Post by olskooltoteender on Oct 3, 2020 20:21:26 GMT
Way too early to say we’ve turned a corner but plenty of positives today. The keeper and three centre backs keep a clean sheet. The two wingbacks were excellent and BG should be praised for the brave switch in dropping Leahy who has been the best outfield player this season. Westbrooke had a good second half after being a bit wasteful in good positions first half - the step over for Nicholson’s chance was very clever and showed great awareness. Up top Hanlon was a real handful and was unlucky not to get a second. Hope we use this as a springboard for the upcoming games and that the fans give the new signings a fair crack - Baldwin and Westbrooke already seem to have been picked as season scapegoats by some ‘fans’. Great post, very much agree. Those 'fans' have gone very quiet, obviously not happy that the result doesn't fit their agenda! Not at all - not taking anything away from the win - and I am mightily relieved that we picked up three points today - but honestly we were sh**e 1st half and only really improved when Nicholson came on 2nd half. Even the commentators admitted that we only “shaded” the first half and let’s be honest, Northampton were poor. Relieved we’re off the bottom but not convinced about Garner yet. I hope this is the start of a good run, but I won’t be getting his face tattooed on my arse just yet . . .
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Post by olskooltoteender on Oct 3, 2020 15:45:44 GMT
And Davies just called us “Bristol”
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Post by olskooltoteender on Oct 3, 2020 15:43:17 GMT
audio is playing both home and away commentaries at the same time and cuts out every 60 secs on the progress bar. Continues to scratch head at the multitude of issues this season. I have actually got groundhog match with 60 secs being played over and over - ifollow a bag of sh**e. Yep - same as me. Now I’ve missed the second Dam goal . . .
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Post by olskooltoteender on Oct 3, 2020 15:15:13 GMT
Anyone else having problems? It went completely dead s minute of two into halftime, now just says “This event has ended”. f**king rubbish app. And yes, I have uninstalled and re-installed it. Several times.
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Post by olskooltoteender on Oct 2, 2020 18:58:31 GMT
give it time and it will work-negatives dont want it to happen -Garner will get it right-mid table this season -top six next-its a completley new squad what do people expect-the wins will come but the negatives will always find something to complain about as thats their life We're bottom of the table and have 2 wins out of 25 under BG. Those "negatives" really are a moany bunch. Expectations clearly too high. I wouldn’t waste your breath GGMI - the bloke’s clearly a bit hard of understanding. Doesn’t get that not believing in Garner is not the same as not supporting the team/club/owner . . .
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Post by olskooltoteender on Sept 28, 2020 14:23:37 GMT
Having a different opinion to you does not make someone a ted. Supporters have been more than patient, if they’re less patient than yourself that doesn’t make them a ted any more than it makes you a ted for wanting the person behind our diabolical form to continue in their role. But people who don't think BG should go were being called teds the other day. Earlier in this thread someone suggested that those that voted he should stay must be City fans, notice that wasn't jumped on. It is embarrassing. We are a fanbase that used to famously support the club throughout all sorts of adversity. Now most of the fanbase are jumping on the manager after three games of the season. Call it blind faith but that's what made me proud to be Rovers, that unwavering support. Unfortunately, that is fast fading and we are starting to resemble a lot of other clubs support, such as City... The manager isn’t the club. The fans are.
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Post by olskooltoteender on Sept 28, 2020 12:02:23 GMT
I think you are correct we didn't really expect to win these 3 games, but once again it's the manner in which we lost. Why didn't we expect to win them? We're a league one club starting the season on zero points and they're league one clubs starting the season on zero points. What did I miss that says I shouldn't expect to win? I'm still waiting for the list of games we can expect to win to be published so I know where we're going to finish this season and can stop watching the matches. They do take up such a big part of Saturday afternoons this will be much quicker. This. Absolutely Dam well this . . .
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Post by olskooltoteender on Sept 28, 2020 9:56:44 GMT
It means exactly this. What else does it mean? No it doesn't. It can mean they want to give them another chance. It can mean their mind isn't made up yet. It can mean they believe they can improve. It can mean they don't believe 3 games is enough to make a decision. It can mean a lot of things. I want to give Ben 1 more chance to win against Northampton, does that mean I've written off the first 3 games? Think outside the box here, just because someone might have a different opinion on firing Garner, doesn't mean they're written everything off. When I spoke in my post about people writing off the first 3 games, I was referring to numerous posters on numerous threads who have said words to the effect of “I didn’t expect us to get anything from the first 3 games”. This is an oft-repeated Refrain and is pretty unambiguous. If I have time I will reference each and every one for you.
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Post by olskooltoteender on Sept 28, 2020 8:48:18 GMT
In truth you will probably find that true supporters will be a lot,lot less than 95%. I would be surprised if it was greater than 30% want a Manager gone after 3 games! I imagine a lot if not most are willing to give him 10 games to see what his new team can do. So here’s the thing - and absolutely no disrespect to you Steve, as you are one of the most knowledgable, loyal and passionate Gasheads on here - but what exactly is a “true supporter?” Is it someone who, because they want the best for their club, will endure loss after loss and no perceptible improvement in the hope that, given enough time, it will all come good? Or is it someone who, after watching loss after loss and no perceptible improvement, wants to change the manager in the hope that if it’s done in time, it will all come good? At the very least we should All be able to agree that it’s ok to have differing opinions and leaning one way or the other doesn’t make you more or less of a “true supporter”. And for what it’s worth I don’t think it’s particularly disrespectful to poke fun at this or any manager - he’s making his position increasingly untenable and making himself look like a petulant adolescent after blaming the refs. He won’t be here much longer, but will will all still be here in our 40’s, 50’s, 60’s, 70’s etc as long as there’s the club to follow, so we all need to accept that we may disagree over stuff sometimes.
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Post by olskooltoteender on Sept 27, 2020 15:27:57 GMT
Thing is, WSA, you may be right with general play not too bad.... that's your opinion. I notice you didn't say 'good' though? But is general play not too bad enough? Enough to win games? Enough to make for a promotion push? Enough to stave off relegation? Enough to satisfy you, perhaps? We all have different criteria on how we view matches, but I would hope we can all agree that relegation is a no no in this climate for our club? If you don't, we are truly worlds apart. If you do agree, what after 20+ matches (most I've seen live at the venue) do you think suggests we won't get relegated with BG as it is now? I'm genuinely dying to know... ? Its absolutely not going to get us anywhere other than a relegation scrap so to answer your question no it doesn't satisfy me at all and you're 100% right that in the current climate relegation would be a disaster. If we carry on as we are we will be bottom 4 of that I have no doubt, my hope (and if I'm honest that's beginning to be all it is) was that with his own group of players BG would somehow turn it round. I think you'd agree that we've had a tough start fixtures wise and whilst I dont think we should ever go into any league game not believing we can win next week represents a chance to play one of the lesser fancied teams at home. That's the reason I think it's a must win for him, if we get turned over again I really cant see any way back and that's said with real disappointment. Problem is though, in my opinion, too many people are far too Willing to say “Oh well, we were always going to lose the first 3 games / the first 3 were really tough fixtures “ etc, but you are right in that we shouldn’t ever EXPECT to lose against another L1 team and we should at the very, very least take the fight to them. That’s what I expect as a lifelong Rovers fan, effort, commitment & passion, not the dull, insipid tippy-tappy we’re dishing up at the moment - I don’t even particularly care if we don’t win every game, but we should at least try to! On paper we have a good squad, but they’re just not being played/managed effectively. And that is purely down to Garner.
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Post by olskooltoteender on Sept 27, 2020 12:53:42 GMT
Belatro-Onis Labes-Labis Maestus Ooh - you just made that up!
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Post by olskooltoteender on Sept 27, 2020 8:22:59 GMT
He's not even that. We had a manager called Ben Hall in 1920-21 with a 42.2% win record. BLM = Ben Loses Matches Ben’s Losses Matter . . .
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Post by olskooltoteender on Sept 26, 2020 17:00:33 GMT
Thought it was probably the best we have played today, Just shocking defending cost us. Created more and there were at least 3 chances where we should have done much better, could possibly have gone 3-2 up. I know reference here will be on the fact we are bottom, but if you look at the top Of the table we have played 3 of the top 4 and 2 of those games were away. Think next week will be a better indication of where we are as a team. Created more? We had ONE shot on target the whole game! One! Still, never mind, cos the season hasn’t started yet - give him another 10 games, eh? “G-G-GDL . . . G-G-GDL . . . G-G-GDL!” #GarnerDefenceLeague #TenIsTheMagicNumber #TenMoreGames #AndThenTenMore #GarnerForever #AndEver #OurBen
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Post by olskooltoteender on Sept 26, 2020 16:54:44 GMT
dont think anyone said the first three league games don't count ? Sure they did. We were not allowed to count last season. Or the cup games. Or the first 3 games because they were difficult. This season doesnt start until next week. “G-G-GDL . . . G-G-GDL . . . G-G-GDL!” #GarnerDefenceLeague #TenIsTheMagicNumber #TenMoreGames #AndThenTenMore #GarnerForever #AndEver #OurBen
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Post by olskooltoteender on Sept 26, 2020 16:52:33 GMT
Can’t wait to hear the fraud give his post match comments. It’s all the fault of the referees, apparently Oh and Covid
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Post by olskooltoteender on Sept 26, 2020 16:50:17 GMT
Can’t wait to hear the fraud give his post match comments. It’s all the fault of the referees, apparently
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