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Post by olskooltoteender on Nov 24, 2020 23:39:32 GMT
Darlington on sunday will give a better performance than wigan tonight so dont bet on us staying in the cup! f**king disgusting! Why give a manager a complete overhaul of player personal to then sack him after 12 games and when most importantly not bad games? He was supposed to be judged on this season and his team which is now! Baffling truly baffling 33 games. 33. Not 12.
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Post by olskooltoteender on Nov 22, 2020 16:03:29 GMT
I am surprised that Jack Mesure is still at the club has Ben Garner brought him in Kevin Maher was here before that but I think the coaching staff needs a shake up Probably reluctant to spend money paying him off is all I can surmise. It’s certainly not typical for someone’s assistants to be kept on. Maher still being here is probably another example of how we would prefer to keep people rather than pay them up. We now have a hodge podge of coaches from a few different philosophies on how to play the game. Now see, you say that, but didn’t Buckles assistant Shaun North stay in charge for ages after Buckle got sacked?
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Post by olskooltoteender on Nov 22, 2020 1:25:35 GMT
We gave Garner twenty odd games and he took us from 6th to the brink of relegation and some still think he wasn't give a fair crack. Tisdale has had 48 hrs and one game and he's the worst manager ever. This place is a joke. Exactly - there’s a lot of pre-existing anti-Tisdale bias around and I’m not sure why. Got to give the bloke a fighting chance -Garner got 30-odd games ffs!
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Post by olskooltoteender on Nov 20, 2020 16:36:11 GMT
Great communication. Board is taking shape. Wonder where those who were complaining there were only two on the board have gone? Good to see Wael showing his humourous side. I’m sure some won’t like that though. Great piece of communication from Wael again! Not used to this . . . So now we've got "Yer Tis" as manager and "Ton-up Tommy" as DoF - brilliant!
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Post by olskooltoteender on Nov 18, 2020 19:33:43 GMT
Is it too much too ask that Radio Bristol provide commentators who are just a little bit partisan and don’t get quite so excited when the opposition score?
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Post by olskooltoteender on Nov 18, 2020 18:43:01 GMT
I think this shows progress. We hadn’t planned to get rid of Garner, it was a reactionary thing to a terrible performance, but we managed to react to it rapidly because we knew who we wanted, and we’ve gone out and got them. When was the last time we were this quick with an appointment that wasn’t an anointment from within? 2020 Bristol Rovers, long live the new board! Guess what we don't know (and maybe never will) is just how long discussions had been going on "off the record" along the line of thought that it was all going pear shaped on the pitch with BG and then the Fleetwood game just crystallized them into action. This - at the end of the day Wael & MS are businessmen, and won’t be waiting to be taken by surprise, or be acting on the hoof, or being reactive rather than proactive. There would have been some kind of succession planning in the event that Garner didn’t work out and they doubtless would’ve had a list of potential candidates who fit their bill in mind for that eventuality. That’s why events appear to be moving quickly, if indeed they are, not because they’re making a panic move to choose the first manager that comes along . . .
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Post by olskooltoteender on Nov 18, 2020 3:05:34 GMT
Great I/V from MS - I think it bears out what I’ve said on other threads that this project, this vision for the clubs future, was never Garners invention - it’s down to Wael & MS and in Garner they’ve tried to find a manager who will buy into that and bring it to fruition on the pitch - unfortunately Garner wasn’t up to the job so they’ve acted decisively and are now looking for another manager to make the vision reality and help us move forward. It’s not very Rovers, but that’s got to be a good thing in these current times . . UTG
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Post by olskooltoteender on Nov 18, 2020 2:18:24 GMT
I thought exactly the same o2. Paul Tisdale will have to be something else. Everyone knows who JW, DC, PT, GC and BG are. If Tisdale is appointed he’ll have to be PTs, until he gets us up to the Championship and then we’ll have to change them around because he’ll have earnt PT. UTG! Nah - he can be “Yer Tis” - doesn’t get much more Bristolian than that . . .
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Post by olskooltoteender on Nov 16, 2020 19:27:07 GMT
Good watch, although I feel a couple of you are falling into the trap of thinking that 'the project' is Garners; it's not, it's Wael's. I think the decision was already present in Wael's mind and Saturday's defeat just convinced him. He's done it in what should be plenty of time for a new gaffer to come in, take hold of the squad, buy in to Waels vision for the future of the club and help move us forward.
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Post by olskooltoteender on Nov 15, 2020 17:28:20 GMT
Whomever Wael appoints, it will DEFINITELY be someone he feels fits the clubs' new ethos. That is undoubtable IMO. Of course whether or not that appointment proves successful and/or whether we agree he can carry on with the ethos is another matter - but I certainly don't think there's any doubt that whomever Wael appoints, it will be under the premise that he continues with the same plan. This is spot-on - the plan, project, vision, whatever you want to call it, wasn’t Garners - it is Wael’s. I think any new appointee will be expected to carry on along the same route, as this is the direction in which Wael is steering the club. Unfortunately Garner wasn’t up to the job, but hopefully the next gaffer will be and will help this squad realise its true potential. UTG
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Post by olskooltoteender on Nov 15, 2020 17:22:44 GMT
So those of us that were saying 10 games weren't so far off after all. I'm gutted it didn't work, we have the team and we had the manager with the "plan" for us to play well, challenge against the best and get up the table. I hold my hands up he sold it to me, I was one of those that ticked the top 10 box on the survey, and I was holding back, inside I wanted a top 6 finish. So what now? For me realism has hit home, its very unlikely to happen this season, another gas season of who knows what, the plan is lost and a new manager will be in with a different plan that will, no doubt, need time to bed into a team that have only just started playing as a team that have been playing to a different plan from a manager that had no experience as a manager... only Bristol Rovers... In my opinion we need a manager with experience this time, the experiment failed, we need somebody with experience who can, at the least, keep us in league one and that's the minimum we can hope for. We need a striker, somebody with a proven track record, I posted on here a little while ago that the plan was to not make a knee jerk reaction and buy a forward just for the sake of it and that the plan was to wait it out and plan for the January window, I firmly believe the wheels are already in motion on this and that preliminary talks have already taken place. JCH? He's gone Get over it But we should never have let him go i hear you cry. He didnt want to stay There will be other JCH's And, with the right passing play we will get Hanlan performing, You can see how hungry he is, and the way he runs at the defence, is a strong, brutal forward that will prove to be a force too be reckoned with. The manager has gone but the team is still there. with the right manager I think we could still be a top half table team. I posted this on a different thread, but I think it’s worth repeating : There seem to be quite a lot of people currently bemoaning the fact that now BG has gone that’ll be the end of “the project” and that “the vision” will fall by the wayside . . . Well, the vision and the project are Wael’s, with probably a lot of input from Starnes; the recruitment has largely been down to Tommy Widdrington, so none of that is going away or likely to change. Garner didn’t originate it, he was simply brought in to help facilitate it - which he signally failed to achieve. I sincerely believe that any half-decent experienced manager at this level could come in now, take this squad as it is and fashion a very good team out of it. It’s just transpired that Garner just wasn’t the person to do that.
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Post by olskooltoteender on Nov 15, 2020 16:11:50 GMT
There seem to be quite a lot of people currently bemoaning the fact that now BG has gone that’ll be the end of “the project” and that “the vision” will fall by the wayside . . . Well, the vision and the project are Wael’s, with probably a lot of input from Starnes; the recruitment has largely been down to Tommy Widdrington, so none of that is going away or likely to change. Garner didn’t originate it, he was simply brought in to help facilitate it - which he signally failed to achieve. I sincerely believe that any half-decent experienced manager at this level could come in now, take this squad as it is and fashion a very good team out of it. It’s just transpired that Garner just wasn’t the person to do that.
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Post by olskooltoteender on Nov 14, 2020 23:31:47 GMT
Hang your head in Shane Hugo Does Shane get a say in it? What have I done now?
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Post by olskooltoteender on Nov 14, 2020 23:08:48 GMT
OMG Just heard on BBC West news I only just posted that my patience had ran out on the Rovers Fleetwood match day thread. Feel bad for him but I'd wasnt working. I so wanted it to work. We all wanted it to work, but hopefully whoever the new manager is can come in, take hold of what is (on paper at least) a squad with huge potential and realise that potential on the pitch, whether they is by reverting to more traditional formations, not playing people out of their best positions, whatever. And although having to sack a manager could be viewed as an admission of failure, I think this should be seen as an opportunity to really regroup, recover, retake some lost ground and properly realise Wael’s vision for the future of the club. UTG!
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Post by olskooltoteender on Nov 14, 2020 16:59:23 GMT
Anyone got Garner’s stats? Garners fault - 0 Referees fault 40 According to the commentary he is currently remonstrating with the ref - no doubt getting his alibi ready . . .
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Post by olskooltoteender on Nov 14, 2020 16:53:21 GMT
You've got to give him time, let him put a squad together, get them working to his system. 10 more games, I reckon . . .
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Post by olskooltoteender on Nov 14, 2020 16:52:33 GMT
Ooohh wait, I’ve got one: they’ve got an experienced goal-scorer in Paddy Madden, so it doesn’t count . . .
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Post by olskooltoteender on Nov 14, 2020 16:49:58 GMT
That’s ok, they’re a top 2 team so it doesn’t count.
Oh no, hang on . . .
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Post by olskooltoteender on Nov 8, 2020 0:06:37 GMT
Do you disagree or have something more constructive to say? He doesn’t like people who express opinions different to his . . .
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Post by olskooltoteender on Nov 4, 2020 11:10:41 GMT
Agree with you Alan. what's the matter with people these days - f*ck them off to North Korea then they'll have something to whinge about ! See, this is the problem. If you could just tell us all what our opinion is supposed to be, rather than leave us unsupervised to make our own minds up, then it would save us all a lot of hassle . . .
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