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Post by socrates on Apr 7, 2019 21:11:25 GMT
James Clarke was the President's Club MotM! Admittedly that was chosen before the last couple of Bonham saves but they'd still have chosen him as our best outfield player. Only Bonham, Clarke, Locks, Craig played well today, the rest just put in a shift to help get the point we desperately needed. Although if we do stay up you have to wonder if we'll only be in another relegation battle next season unless we can get some quality into the club. Aren't we still in a decent position in Coughlan's league table? If we had been managed by him all season, I don't think we'd even be in this position at all. Next year we need to have a clear out of the players that have been sitting on the bench and been sent out on loan and recruit 4-5 additions to push the current squad, not a complete overhaul. For me that would be Bonham or a new keeper, a right back, box to box midfielder, left winger and a new striker. Get this right and I think we will push on and not be in another relegation battle for next season, we're not as far from being a good outfit in this league as people think. We’re a tough hard to break down outfit. It’s important that we keep that but add some attacking quality to our game. If we can do that then we’ll be the real deal, but until then we’re just hard to break down with very little pace or creativity relying on a new signing who’s never been prolific to unusually score the goals that’s kept our heads above water. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2019 21:15:42 GMT
Aren't we still in a decent position in Coughlan's league table? If we had been managed by him all season, I don't think we'd even be in this position at all. Next year we need to have a clear out of the players that have been sitting on the bench and been sent out on loan and recruit 4-5 additions to push the current squad, not a complete overhaul. For me that would be Bonham or a new keeper, a right back, box to box midfielder, left winger and a new striker. Get this right and I think we will push on and not be in another relegation battle for next season, we're not as far from being a good outfit in this league as people think. We’re a tough hard to break down outfit. It’s important that we keep that but add some attacking quality to our game. If we can do that then we’ll be the real deal, but until then we’re just hard to break down with very little pace or creativity relying on a new signing who’s never been prolific to unusually score the goals that’s kept our heads above water. Hard to break down you having a laugh 🤣they could’ve had 4 easy goals today they went straight through us. |
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Post by axegas on Apr 7, 2019 21:23:32 GMT
Aren't we still in a decent position in Coughlan's league table? If we had been managed by him all season, I don't think we'd even be in this position at all. Next year we need to have a clear out of the players that have been sitting on the bench and been sent out on loan and recruit 4-5 additions to push the current squad, not a complete overhaul. For me that would be Bonham or a new keeper, a right back, box to box midfielder, left winger and a new striker. Get this right and I think we will push on and not be in another relegation battle for next season, we're not as far from being a good outfit in this league as people think. We’re a tough hard to break down outfit. It’s important that we keep that but add some attacking quality to our game. If we can do that then we’ll be the real deal, but until then we’re just hard to break down with very little pace or creativity relying on a new signing who’s never been prolific to unusually score the goals that’s kept our heads above water. I think a part of the why we were so uninspiring and laborious today was because we were lacking THD, Nichols and Rodman, they are players can do things with the ball that the rest of the squad can't, the others are hard workers and reliable but they rarely make things happen and put the opposition under the cosh. The diamond also didn't help us on this occasion as we did everything down the middle and this made it easy for Coventry to defend against. If we can utilise THD and Rodman to the full effect next year, recruit a good left winger to give us some balance and find our best partnerships both in the midfield and upfront, hopefully this will go some way to fixing our attacking endeavours. We have the defence of a playoff chasing side, just need to find the attack of one. |
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Post by Russgas on Apr 7, 2019 21:29:55 GMT
As you say my bloody nerves wont take another mansfield type final day, will probably be made all ticket fairly soon, and god knows why its a 5.30 ko with the potential for it kicking off with the ferret strokers. It's equally possible that Barnsley will have nothing to play for and will rest players for the play offs. Will wait and see. That seems a good shout. Sunderland will nail second spot now no doubt. |
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Post by justin blue on Apr 7, 2019 21:43:24 GMT
I Cannot believe the negativity on this thread we got a badly needed point. We knew that they would be better than us and we would need a bit of luck it was never going to be pretty, but we got what we came for so on to the next game UTG.
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Post by Gas-Ed on Apr 7, 2019 21:56:36 GMT
James Clarke was the President's Club MotM! Admittedly that was chosen before the last couple of Bonham saves but they'd still have chosen him as our best outfield player. Only Bonham, Clarke, Locks, Craig played well today, the rest just put in a shift to help get the point we desperately needed. Although if we do stay up you have to wonder if we'll only be in another relegation battle next season unless we can get some quality into the club. big clear out needed I agree. I’d say as many as 5 of today’s starters aren’t good enough at this level. |
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Post by markczgas on Apr 7, 2019 21:56:53 GMT
I Cannot believe the negativity on this thread we got a badly needed point. We knew that they would be better than us and we would need a bit of luck it was never going to be pretty, but we got what we came for so on to the next game UTG. I am delighted we got a point but we were poor for most of the match. We couldn't put any passes together. We never got behind them except at the end when Jakubiak cut it back for Sercs. Coventry tormented us out wide first half but somehow we got the blocks in or the ball didn't fall for their players. Second half was a bit better but again Coventry came close with headers at the back post and then got through us down the middle. Bonham was sharp but their finishing wasn't the best either. We looked leggy and slow with our thinking. Was some of it tactics too ? why didn't Bonham throw it out at all ? No short goal kicks either !? It was too may punts hoping JCH would do something with it or would win them - which he did often but not many team mates in support. Our midfield 4 were too pedestrian - no-one prepared to travel distances with the ball or take a player on. Listen to GC interview - he was very honest about our limitations. But a point closer to safety. We will stay up ! UTG! |
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Post by lastminutewinner on Apr 7, 2019 22:09:51 GMT
We’re a tough hard to break down outfit. It’s important that we keep that but add some attacking quality to our game. If we can do that then we’ll be the real deal, but until then we’re just hard to break down with very little pace or creativity relying on a new signing who’s never been prolific to unusually score the goals that’s kept our heads above water. Hard to break down you having a laugh 🤣they could’ve had 4 easy goals today they went straight through us. Spot on. We didnt lose today due to Coventry's water poor final third play, not because of our superb defence |
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Post by rovers5charlton5 on Apr 7, 2019 22:11:55 GMT
I think you answered your own question as to why Bonham was hoofing it up field all of time; the midfield were non existent, and kept giving the ball away far too easily. Bonham did throw the ball out once, it was about 75 minutes in, if I remember correctly.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2019 22:55:25 GMT
Cannot for the life of me fathom why he refuses to play Lines. On his day he has that creative spark that we desperately missed today. True when he has played earlier in the season he has been generally crap, but if he isn’t getting the chances to play, how can he amend that? 3 defensive midfielders starting today alongside an indifferent Sercombe? Ridiculous. Whats lines like in training? Is he working his socks off to get back into the team? |
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Post by socrates on Apr 7, 2019 23:30:51 GMT
Hard to break down you having a laugh 🤣they could’ve had 4 easy goals today they went straight through us. Spot on. We didnt lose today due to Coventry's water poor final third play, not because of our superb defence But generally speaking we have been hard to break down this season. 17 clean sheets tells the story. Some teams in the top 6 probably haven’t had that many. |
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Apr 7, 2019 23:32:51 GMT
We’re a tough hard to break down outfit. It’s important that we keep that but add some attacking quality to our game. If we can do that then we’ll be the real deal, but until then we’re just hard to break down with very little pace or creativity relying on a new signing who’s never been prolific to unusually score the goals that’s kept our heads above water. I think a part of the why we were so uninspiring and laborious today was because we were lacking THD, Nichols and Rodman, they are players can do things with the ball that the rest of the squad can't, the others are hard workers and reliable but they rarely make things happen and put the opposition under the cosh. The diamond also didn't help us on this occasion as we did everything down the middle and this made it easy for Coventry to defend against. If we can utilise THD and Rodman to the full effect next year, recruit a good left winger to give us some balance and find our best partnerships both in the midfield and upfront, hopefully this will go some way to fixing our attacking endeavours. We have the defence of a playoff chasing side, just need to find the attack of one. Personally not sure we do have the “defence of a Play Off chasing side”. We must have the most heavily protected defence in the division. No Play Off chasing side has three defensive midfielders sat on the toes of their back four week in week out. IMO our defensive record is so strong because we sacrifice so much from our game in an attacking sense that it would be almost impossible for us to be leaky and open at the back. We’re set up to be a very compact and defensive side that doesn’t commit too many men forward, so naturally we don’t concede too many. Does that really mean we have a Play Off chasing-standard defence? Not for me. I’d be very interested to see our back four from today as part of a more open and attacking team next season. IMO we’d struggle. |
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Post by justin blue on Apr 8, 2019 7:22:49 GMT
I Cannot believe the negativity on this thread we got a badly needed point. We knew that they would be better than us and we would need a bit of luck it was never going to be pretty, but we got what we came for so on to the next game UTG. I am delighted we got a point but we were poor for most of the match. We couldn't put any passes together. We never got behind them except at the end when Jakubiak cut it back for Sercs. Coventry tormented us out wide first half but somehow we got the blocks in or the ball didn't fall for their players. Second half was a bit better but again Coventry came close with headers at the back post and then got through us down the middle. Bonham was sharp but their finishing wasn't the best either. We looked leggy and slow with our thinking. Was some of it tactics too ? why didn't Bonham throw it out at all ? No short goal kicks either !? It was too may punts hoping JCH would do something with it or would win them - which he did often but not many team mates in support. Our midfield 4 were too pedestrian - no-one prepared to travel distances with the ball or take a player on. Listen to GC interview - he was very honest about our limitations. But a point closer to safety. We will stay up ! UTG! The reason we looked poor is because we are a poor side the table doesn't lie. Though I think part of that is due to lack of confidence after two defeats. However what Rovers lacked in skill they made up for in guts and dogged determination Sincs in particular threw himself at every loose ball and tore after everything and everyone. Coventry needed two points to stay in the promotion race we needed one to keep us a game clear of the relegation spots. I would have loved for Rovers to take the game to them and match them player for player, but the fact is they are better than us so we have to rely on spoiling their game and luck. Maybe now that we have stopped the rot after two defeats we can play with a bit more confidence, but as long as we get the points we need to stay up I don't care too much how. UTG |
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 8, 2019 7:32:32 GMT
I agree. I’d say as many as 5 of today’s starters aren’t good enough at this level. But we're probably two wins short of being mid table so it's hardly half the team not good enough, we just lack attack minded players with Rodman & THD out injured, Lines out of favour/form. |
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Post by paulpirate on Apr 8, 2019 7:48:02 GMT
I agree. I’d say as many as 5 of today’s starters aren’t good enough at this level. But we're probably two wins short of being mid table so it's hardly half the team not good enough, we just lack attack minded players with Rodman & THD out injured, Lines out of favour/form. we need more than thd and rodman we need half a dozen |
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Post by Gasshole on Apr 8, 2019 8:16:35 GMT
James Clarke was the President's Club MotM! Admittedly that was chosen before the last couple of Bonham saves but they'd still have chosen him as our best outfield player. Only Bonham, Clarke, Locks, Craig played well today, the rest just put in a shift to help get the point we desperately needed. Although if we do stay up you have to wonder if we'll only be in another relegation battle next season unless we can get some quality into the club. big clear out needed Probably need to get Bath City on the blower, they could do us a solid. |
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Post by William Wilson on Apr 8, 2019 10:27:56 GMT
But we're probably two wins short of being mid table so it's hardly half the team not good enough, we just lack attack minded players with Rodman & THD out injured, Lines out of favour/form. we need more than thd and rodman we need half a dozen Possibly. But I`d settle for having those two back against Bradford. |
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Post by Jester on Apr 8, 2019 11:40:09 GMT
I said I'd take a point and after that 1st half performance I was more than happy! Two different team setups (Us and Coventry) and on a pitch that was almost as wide as it was long, they were set up to play with width and we just didn't have anyone that could/would. Didn't GC do his homework on the Ricoh pitch/Coventry, or is it because we are so short of players who can make use of the width. Looked better when Jak & TN came on playing a 4-3-3 and giving us far more width with Jak playing right and TN left (Although TN's best/only effort came from the right) and giving JCH more support. We cannot play Sincs and Ogogo together as neither of them, or Upson, has the pace to support the front two. That's why Coventry kept coming back at us when the front two were 'muscled' out of it, plus some very poor passing by Kelly and the midfield. Kelly had a bit of a nightmare and the sooner we get THD back the better, either to support him, or to support the front two. I am one of O Clarke's worst critics, but there are times when he has the pace to support the front men. I assume he was injured, otherwise he would have a least been on the bench. I don't think Linesy was the solution either. Gone are the days of his 'driving runs' from midfield at the opposition. He spends more time behind the back four nowadays and trying 'Hollywood balls' to wide players (if we've got one?)
NO question about MOM yesterday.........Jack Bonham saved us and made sure we kept the point, closely followed by Locks and TC.
Rant over! Lets get back to winning form on Saturday! UTG.
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Post by neilv93 on Apr 8, 2019 11:49:05 GMT
I think a part of the why we were so uninspiring and laborious today was because we were lacking THD, Nichols and Rodman, they are players can do things with the ball that the rest of the squad can't, the others are hard workers and reliable but they rarely make things happen and put the opposition under the cosh. The diamond also didn't help us on this occasion as we did everything down the middle and this made it easy for Coventry to defend against. If we can utilise THD and Rodman to the full effect next year, recruit a good left winger to give us some balance and find our best partnerships both in the midfield and upfront, hopefully this will go some way to fixing our attacking endeavours. We have the defence of a playoff chasing side, just need to find the attack of one. Personally not sure we do have the “defence of a Play Off chasing side”. We must have the most heavily protected defence in the division. No Play Off chasing side has three defensive midfielders sat on the toes of their back four week in week out. IMO our defensive record is so strong because we sacrifice so much from our game in an attacking sense that it would be almost impossible for us to be leaky and open at the back. We’re set up to be a very compact and defensive side that doesn’t commit too many men forward, so naturally we don’t concede too many. Does that really mean we have a Play Off chasing-standard defence? Not for me.
I’d be very interested to see our back four from today as part of a more open and attacking team next season. IMO we’d struggle.Our defence has done well this season, given the circumstances, and our defensive record is testament to that. However, I'm inclined to agree. THD would be big improvement, obviously, but I am coming around to the "we need a 6'4" brick s**thouse alongside Lockyer" theory, if skipper stays that is. Plus, obviously an attacking RB is paramount if we continue with diamond (as much as I love the consistently 7/10 JC). |
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Post by lpgas on Apr 8, 2019 16:16:49 GMT
We need a good clear out this summer and a smaller, but a better quality squad for next season. If I was in charge to go would be O. Clarke; Lines; Sinclair: Bennett: Secombe: Mathews: Payne; Jackubiac (End of loan): Mensah: Nichols: Partington: Mayonases: Leadbitter; Smith: Slocombe.
I would try to sign Bonham.
I put these names forward because some are now naturally coming to the end of their careers. Some are always injured. Some are slow. Some are not good enough. Some play like they don't want to be here. And finally, of all of those mentioned, if they were on the bench and came on, they wouldn't make much difference
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