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Post by Fetch on May 9, 2020 9:07:27 GMT
Imagine my shock that the Premier League are using this crisis to try and shoehorn B-Teams into the EFL again. Stinks of “we’ll save you financially, if you agree to B-Teams”. Sad that we could potentially be looking at the likes of Tranmere going bust and being replaced by Liverpool B - and the media would paint it as “saving” the EFL too... www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/premier-league-b-teams-could-21998675
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Post by Jomo on May 9, 2020 9:17:05 GMT
Imagine my shock that the Premier League are using this crisis to try and shoehorn B-Teams into the EFL again. Stinks of “we’ll save you financially, if you agree to B-Teams”. Sad that we could potentially be looking at the likes of Tranmere going bust and being replaced by Liverpool B - and the media would paint it as “saving” the EFL too... www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/premier-league-b-teams-could-21998675 This is sadly inevitable. Using the demise of the destitute small EFL clubs to further their own selfish agendas. I despise them with a passion!!
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Post by chewbacca on May 9, 2020 9:20:55 GMT
Hope the EFL Trophy semi-final was worth it, lads.
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Post by teanbiscuits on May 9, 2020 9:26:43 GMT
I'd rather go non-league again.
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Post by darkbluegas on May 9, 2020 9:28:22 GMT
Hope the EFL Trophy semi-final was worth it, lads. Amazing how a little competition brought down the traditional structure of English football. Nothing to do with Sky TV and the formation of the Premier League. Absolutely not caused at all by the influx of untaxed foreign income at a level some countries could only dream of matching with their GDP. The demise of football in lower leagues was, when we look back on these times was caused by 826 people watching us play some team no one really cares about
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Post by Charlton Hayes Gas on May 9, 2020 9:43:00 GMT
I’d like to say I’d be done with football if this happened, but sadly I think that’s exactly the reaction PL clubs want.
I don’t think they even want b teams, I think they want to kill off lower league teams and be like NFL franchise, 20 or 30 teams dotted around the country, all with billionaire owners with no relegation in a multi billion pound super league.
Someone’s gotta be brave and bold enough to reign them in and secure the long term future of clubs with proud histories and tradition.
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Post by chewbacca on May 9, 2020 10:00:43 GMT
Hope the EFL Trophy semi-final was worth it, lads. Amazing how a little competition brought down the traditional structure of English football. Nothing to do with Sky TV and the formation of the Premier League. Absolutely not caused at all by the influx of untaxed foreign income at a level some countries could only dream of matching with their GDP. The demise of football in lower leagues was, when we look back on these times was caused by 826 people watching us play some team no one really cares about Football League clubs voted B Teams into their competition, this is an extension of that. People that propped up that tournament by attending need to ask if that was worth it.
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Post by darkbluegas on May 9, 2020 10:13:24 GMT
Amazing how a little competition brought down the traditional structure of English football. Nothing to do with Sky TV and the formation of the Premier League. Absolutely not caused at all by the influx of untaxed foreign income at a level some countries could only dream of matching with their GDP. The demise of football in lower leagues was, when we look back on these times was caused by 826 people watching us play some team no one really cares about Football League clubs voted B Teams into their competition, this is an extension of that. People that propped up that tournament by attending need to ask if that was worth it. It’s made no impact whatsoever. What would be a more sensible question is how many gasheads pump money into the pockets of the PL by subscribing to pay to view sports tv. I would happily bet some people who call themselves gasheads spend more money on subscription sport tv than they do at the Mem. We’ve got the Football landscape the country demands. It’s like moaning about how the butcher on the high street closed down but getting all our shopping in Asda.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2020 10:17:10 GMT
Amazing how a little competition brought down the traditional structure of English football. Nothing to do with Sky TV and the formation of the Premier League. Absolutely not caused at all by the influx of untaxed foreign income at a level some countries could only dream of matching with their GDP. The demise of football in lower leagues was, when we look back on these times was caused by 826 people watching us play some team no one really cares about Football League clubs voted B Teams into their competition, this is an extension of that. People that propped up that tournament by attending need to ask if that was worth it. Don’t blame the fans- they didn’t put these teams in the competition. It was yet another money grab, pure and simple. Football would sell it’s own bloody granny for a handful of change. It really is a disgusting industry and I hope it’s greed, at all levels, will be plain for all to see during and after this pandemic. We need to ask ourselves if this is really the sport we want. It certainly doesn’t reflect me or my principles or beliefs.
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Post by LJG on May 9, 2020 10:31:23 GMT
Football League clubs voted B Teams into their competition, this is an extension of that. People that propped up that tournament by attending need to ask if that was worth it. It’s made no impact whatsoever. What would be a more sensible question is how many gasheads pump money into the pockets of the PL by subscribing to pay to view sports tv. I would happily bet some people who call themselves gasheads spend more money on subscription sport tv than they do at the Mem. We’ve got the Football landscape the country demands. It’s like moaning about how the butcher on the high street closed down but getting all our shopping in Asda. No, it's more like shopping in the butcher because you want to support his business but when ASDA say that they're sending their under 18 butchers to get experience by working in the high street butcher 1 day a week and will only be selling ASDA produce on that day, you go and buy your meat from the ASDA kiddies who you've expressly stated you don't want to buy your meat from. Then when people question you about how that will impact the wider perception of local support for supermarket butchery you say you've got a right to go to that butcher any day you like because that's what you've been doing for 40 years. And then when the announcement of the closure of the butcher's comes, saying that the two aren't in the least connected. Chewbacca is right, Shaun Harvey was telling lies about the public perception of that competition years ago on the basis that 1,000 odd people turned up. If there had been outright and absolute boycott of that it would make this suggestion less saleable. But there wasn't, so it isn't.
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Post by LJG on May 9, 2020 10:34:01 GMT
Football League clubs voted B Teams into their competition, this is an extension of that. People that propped up that tournament by attending need to ask if that was worth it. Don’t blame the fans- they didn’t put these teams in the competition. It was yet another money grab, pure and simple. Football would sell it’s own bloody granny for a handful of change. It really is a disgusting industry and I hope it’s greed, at all levels, will be plain for all to see during and after this pandemic. We need to ask ourselves if this is really the sport we want. It certainly doesn’t reflect me or my principles or beliefs. Well that's a silly thing to say isn't it? Football can only sell it's own Granny if it can find a buyer. And from memory you were very vocal about going to watch whatever game of football you wanted. So, where are you keeping her false teeth? Because you bought your little bit of Granny.
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Post by darkbluegas on May 9, 2020 10:46:11 GMT
The PL and Sky must lap up the crap talked about the EFL Trophy, a complete distraction tactic used by big businesses. Talk about lambs to the slaughter
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Post by gasheadbatesy on May 9, 2020 10:50:48 GMT
Those who didn’t boycott. SHAME ON YOU. You have contributed to this being discussed, rather than try nip it in the bud early. you are a massive problem and ammo to make this a possibility.
I’ll walk away from it all if this happens.
But you enjoy propping up the B teams.
You had your chance, you cannot complain.
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Post by farmygas on May 9, 2020 10:58:37 GMT
Done with pro football if this goes through.
Those who didn't boycott: hope you're satisfied. You were warned again and again.
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Post by Marshy on May 9, 2020 11:00:14 GMT
Those who didn’t boycott. SHAME ON YOU. You have contributed to this being discussed, rather than try nip it in the bud early. you are a massive problem and ammo to make this a possibility. I’ll walk away from it all if this happens. But you enjoy propping up the B teams. You had your chance, you cannot complain. I blame Henbury. :Scab:
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Post by LJG on May 9, 2020 11:05:14 GMT
The PL and Sky must lap up the crap talked about the EFL Trophy, a complete distraction tactic used by big businesses. Talk about lambs to the slaughter I don't think anyone denies that the Sky TV money has changed the face of football but it's clearly wrong to say that it is the lower league fans paying their subscription which has caused it. The Premier League is a global industry. What lower league fans do have control over though is the narrative around the acceptance of Premier league B teams. Like I said, Shaun Harvey has been shaping that narrative for years, even spinning the low attendances in the group stages as a success. Larger attendances for Wembley finals just give him the tools to work with. Those who attended those games have made the narrative that we accept them easier to make.
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Post by fanatical on May 9, 2020 11:05:26 GMT
Those who didn’t boycott. SHAME ON YOU. You have contributed to this being discussed, rather than try nip it in the bud early. you are a massive problem and ammo to make this a possibility. I’ll walk away from it all if this happens. But you enjoy propping up the B teams. You had your chance, you cannot complain. Like you I did not support or watch the matches in the competition, but even if no-one had attended the matches it would make no difference to how the administrators are thinking because all the money is in the Premiership and the clubs in the PL need a competition to exercise their many players. Most of the clubs in 3 and 4 are hanging on by a thread (including ours)
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Post by Antonio Fargas on May 9, 2020 11:24:47 GMT
The PL and Sky must lap up the crap talked about the EFL Trophy, a complete distraction tactic used by big businesses. Talk about lambs to the slaughter If everyone had boycotted the whole thing would be dead and buried by now. You sneered about the boycott but the lambs going to the slaughter were the fans going to the trophy matches.
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Post by darkbluegas on May 9, 2020 11:26:54 GMT
Football fans in this country have determined the future of the game in this country by the support of Sky Tv and the PL. We are soon to get exactly what the customer, on the whole, has demanded. The splitting away of the top two tiers from the rest of football. Massive global appeal and a fairly successful England side.
That success has obviously meant clubs like ours has no prospect of competing in our current guise. Fans at all levels have financed that success and without so much as a whimper.
Now we’re faced with the reality some don’t like it. The EFL Trophy was a great little opportunity for fans to show their disgust by sitting on their arses at home watching champions league football on the telly. You really couldn’t make it up.
Talk about bolting the stable door once the horse has bolted.
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Post by sodburygas on May 9, 2020 11:29:11 GMT
This story has come from Brighton technical director and you are acting like it's definitely happening.
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