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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 14, 2020 14:13:40 GMT
Just 8 games last season doesn't suggest he can put in 80+ games in the next couple of seasons. With budgets stretched it'll be interesting to see if any other EFL club is prepared to take the risk. It looks like a long list tomorrow: Clarke Craig Nichols Reilly Rodman(?) Sercs THD With possibly others also told to try and find new clubs. Rodman is with us for next season - not sure why people keep thinking he isn't! Just hard to believe we gave someone of his age a 3 years contact, particularly a winger, no wonder Burton couldn't match it as the time.
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Post by graceyboy on Jun 14, 2020 14:22:39 GMT
Rodman is with us for next season - not sure why people keep thinking he isn't! Just hard to believe we gave someone of his age a 3 years contact, particularly a winger, no wonder Burton couldn't match it as the time. I think a lot of us struggle to fathom the length of contracts given to Rodman, Bennett, Upson, Matthews and Nichols.. We must have had some money to burn 2 years ago... Oh wait.. £24m you say!
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Post by graceyboy on Jun 14, 2020 14:25:50 GMT
This same thread in 2 years time... We've got Michael Kelly for ANOTHER year! Who decided to give him a 3 year deal?
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Post by alanrg on Jun 14, 2020 14:34:17 GMT
anybody know if Sam Matthews is out of contract surely he is another one who needs to go not up to it
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2020 14:48:43 GMT
Just hard to believe we gave someone of his age a 3 years contact, particularly a winger, no wonder Burton couldn't match it as the time. I think a lot of us struggle to fathom the length of contracts given to Rodman, Bennett, Upson, Matthews and Nichols.. We must have had some money to burn 2 years ago... Oh wait.. £24m you say! Would you spend £300k + on a Player but only give them a one year contract?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2020 15:39:58 GMT
Read this morning there are some very decent City Players potentially being released … I know everyone will moan about it but surely we could look at some of these lads … those that played against us last year did pretty well - Sammie Szmodics for one would be a fantastic addition and I can think of two or three others ( Semenyo, Adelakun, Bakinson (on loan maybe) we should really be looking at - probably wont though !
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2020 15:41:00 GMT
Tomorrow at 2am. Anyone else staying up? I might get up early.
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Post by pirate on Jun 14, 2020 15:53:09 GMT
Read this morning there are some very decent City Players potentially being released … I know everyone will moan about it but surely we could look at some of these lads … those that played against us last year did pretty well - Sammie Szmodics for one would be a fantastic addition and I can think of two or three others ( Semenyo, Adelakun, Bakinson (on loan maybe) we should really be looking at - probably wont though ! I'd probably offer a deal to the lad Marcus Day too if he is released after he caught my eye out on loan with Paulton.
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Post by lpgas1 on Jun 14, 2020 16:59:30 GMT
and we still have Bennett. I will never forgive DC for that
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Post by rememberhalifax on Jun 14, 2020 18:01:03 GMT
Apart from you know who ,i have no problem signing city lad if it improves our squad. as for players rumoured to be leaving i think youngsters in back 4 would miss Craig's wise old head and hope he stays on to help them reach the heights, no worries about others mentioned to be leaving though in THD case its unfortunate.
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Post by Gas_Quarters on Jun 14, 2020 18:50:19 GMT
Apart from you know who ,i have no problem signing city lad if it improves our squad. as for players rumoured to be leaving i think youngsters in back 4 would miss Craig's wise old head and hope he stays on to help them reach the heights, no worries about others mentioned to be leaving though in THD case its unfortunate. i agree about Craig, we’ve got a number of good young defenders with big potential but I think they could do with someone like him as a mentor in order for them to reach that potential. Whoever is released tomorrow, I hope there’s no meltdown on here with everyone claiming to know best who we should and shouldn’t have let go. People seem to forget sometimes that this isn’t fifa career mode and there’s more to it than simply offering someone a new deal on the same terms and that’s it for another year. Ultimately we have no idea what goes on behind the scenes, and these are people’s lives. They might choose to leave for personal reasons or simply want too much money. Not everything is Wael’s or BG’s fault. Please just bear that in mind when the list is released tomorrow
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jun 14, 2020 19:59:03 GMT
My worry is that it seems to me a lot of experienced heads are being shifted to cut the budget. I'm all for youth but you need some experience too especially with the lack of experience/leadership off the pitch with Garner and Wael. I've seen many teams get relegated from L1 for being soft push overs with too many young players and an inexperienced manager.
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Post by wertongas on Jun 14, 2020 20:14:29 GMT
I was told at the beginning of the season unless there was a huge improvement Nichols would be leaving so he will be going THD, Secs and Reilly on the way out. I would like us to keep Clarke if we can, it is good to bring in younger players but we still need a mixture of youth and experience. Young players are often fickle and if they have a bad game can easily loose confidence, need to keep some experience to help the younger players. One thing the team does lack is goals definitely need another striker and goal scoring midfielder. Rodman is useful he can get goals anyway my daughter along with it appears tillythighs seam to think he's fit so think he will have to stay.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 14, 2020 20:22:20 GMT
My worry is that it seems to me a lot of experienced heads are being shifted to cut the budget. I'm all for youth but you need some experience too especially with the lack of experience/leadership off the pitch with Garner and Wael. I've seen many teams get relegated from L1 for being soft push overs with too many young players and an inexperienced manager. Until we see the nature of BG's signings how can you say he's shifting players to cut the budget, isn't that just what the likes of Knowall want us all to believe? Our midfield has been poor virtually ever since we returned to L1 and needs a big overall, THD is clearly not up to L1, whilst I'd have liked to keep Craig he hardly fits into BG's football playing CB role plus post CV he may have no interest in staying in Bristol away from his young family. Just a pity we've got BG rebuilding the squad rather than GC as I do fear this is too big a job for him.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 14, 2020 20:26:32 GMT
I was told at the beginning of the season unless there was a huge improvement Nichols would be leaving so he will be going THD, Secs and Reilly on the way out. I would like us to keep Clarke if we can, it is good to bring in younger players but we still need a mixture of youth and experience. Young players are often fickle and if they have a bad game can easily loose confidence, need to keep some experience to help the younger players. One thing the team does lack is goals definitely need another striker and goal scoring midfielder. Roman is useful he can get goals. That's some real ITK info re Nichols!! On what basis would you like to keep Clarke as I can't recall when he last had an average game let alone a decent one, he probably needs to find a new club for his own sake. Who's Roman, apart from JCH the only other 1st team striker is Daly?
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Post by wertongas on Jun 14, 2020 20:54:18 GMT
My worry is that it seems to me a lot of experienced heads are being shifted to cut the budget. I'm all for youth but you need some experience too especially with the lack of experience/leadership off the pitch with Garner and Wael. I've seen many teams get relegated from L1 for being soft push overs with too many young players and an inexperienced manager. Until we see the nature of BG's signings how can you say he's shifting players to cut the budget, isn't that just what the likes of Knowall want us all to believe? Our midfield has been poor virtually ever since we returned to L1 and needs a big overall, THD is clearly not up to L1, whilst I'd have liked to keep Craig he hardly fits into BG's football playing CB role plus post CV he may have no interest in staying in Bristol away from his young family. Just a pity we've got BG rebuilding the squad rather than GC as I do fear this is too big a job for him. Nichols was JCH preferred strike partner despite that the club had decided he would probably be leaving at the end of the season. JCH does perform better when he plays alongside Nichols.
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Post by graceyboy on Jun 15, 2020 8:21:37 GMT
I think a lot of us struggle to fathom the length of contracts given to Rodman, Bennett, Upson, Matthews and Nichols.. We must have had some money to burn 2 years ago... Oh wait.. £24m you say! Would you spend £300k + on a Player but only give them a one year contract? You're referring to Tom nichols... I think the principle of a 3 year deal was right re him as we thought he was going to be very very good. I'd also tie down youngsters where pro clubs are sniffing around on 3 years as well... But NIT give 3 year deals to journeyman midfielders in their late 20's, early 30's..no way. The standard contract length was always 2 years for us, seemed to be our policy. I just think we got it very wrong re upson, bennett and rodman.. I don't think anyone envisaged anyone beating our door down to sign them at any point and now we're lumbered with dead wood like Kyle Bennett because of that crazy decision.
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Post by alanrg on Jun 15, 2020 8:30:56 GMT
with regard to Bennett I think his contract would have been paid up this summer like Stefan Payne but 4 covid 19
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Post by graceyboy on Jun 15, 2020 8:37:26 GMT
By the same token, I do get that if we're trying to sign a player and several clubs are coming in for him, the offer of the security of a 3 year deal blows the opposition out of the water and gets us our man. No doubt engineered by agents and I appreciate that is what happened with the journeyman midfielders I've mentioned. The only way to get rid of them is to transfer list them, send them to train with the kids, tell them they are free to leave for free if they find another club and make them feel as unwelcome as possible in the hope that they find another club.. This usually works but if you've got a player like Kyle Bennett who digs his heels in and wants to stay because he knows he's on to a good thing by earning the wage he does , doesn't care that he's costing the club money, knows he's as welcome at the club as a fart in a lift but his thick skin means he's able to brush that off, then there's naf all the club can do about it.. That's the frustration.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2020 8:42:10 GMT
By the same token, I do get that if we're trying to sign a player and several clubs are coming in for him, the offer of the security of a 3 year deal blows the opposition out of the water and gets us our man. No doubt engineered by agents and I appreciate that is what happened with the journeyman midfielders I've mentioned. The only way to get rid of them is to transfer list them, send them to train with the kids, tell them they are free to leave for free if they find another club and make them feel as unwelcome as possible in the hope that they find another club.. This usually works but if you've got a player like Kyle Bennett who digs his heels in and wants to stay because he knows he's on to a good thing by earning the wage he does , doesn't care that he's costing the club money, knows he's as welcome at the club as a fart in a lift but his thick skin means he's able to brush that off, then there's naf all the club can do about it.. That's the frustration. Wow - rather an extreme suggestion, don't think I'd want to support a club who treated employees like that.
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