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Post by warehamgas on Jul 18, 2020 21:04:02 GMT
All this bigging up of academy football- do they do open top bus parades for the winners of the academy leagues now or something? It’s a level of football that bears no real relevance to modern senior football, not least because so many of the players at that level turn out not to be good enough for the full pro game. For every Zaha, Garner and the other lad will have presided over 10 flops but nobody mentions the numerous flops and instead pick up only on the one or two who made it. I despair that so much stock can be put into that level of football. It also seems very weird to me that Wael can spend all that money to clear the debts and yet install such a Poundland management team, no experience of senior football between them and it’s not even like Garner has turned out to be a pleasant surprise- the initial omens have been pretty poor with one of the worst runs in the club’s history, nay, football league history suggesting that there is a massive step up in tactics and theory between coaching some kids on a park and directing a team of men. It’s really frustrating that off the pitch we *finally* look like getting our sh** together but on it we could be in for a very hard season feel free to bring this post back up though if I’m proved wrong- I don’t think I will be! Come on 365 the dig about academy football is a tad unfair. Of course they don’t do parades for them but I suspect that most of our teams over the past 10 year since have come through some form of academy, ours and others. You seem to hint that we’ll only sign academy players. Grant isn’t though he is young. It’s just some of our recent signings have come from better academies and have now stepped into league football. We’ve got plenty of experience, Jaakola, Little, Rodman, Ogogo, JCH, Davies (if fit) and we don’t even know when we will start. When firm dates come, we will sign others. As to finding it weird that Wael has gone this way, I think exactly the opposite. It’s his show now and he is going to do it his way and tbf to him what’s happened in the past few months is more or less what he said back in the Spring of ‘16. I would have found it strange if he’d gone for an older, more journeyman manager who might have failed in other places. He’s set out a way and method to follow and he’s going to do it. If Garner etc. fails he will still go for a younger football-playing replacement to fit in with what he wants. Try and enjoy the ride 365, Wael has put a lot of money into BRFC so he wants to succeed and he will be doing it his way. I hope BG is successful but if he fails he will be replaced by a similar, younger, football playing manager. UTG!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2020 22:37:11 GMT
All this bigging up of academy football- do they do open top bus parades for the winners of the academy leagues now or something? It’s a level of football that bears no real relevance to modern senior football, not least because so many of the players at that level turn out not to be good enough for the full pro game. For every Zaha, Garner and the other lad will have presided over 10 flops but nobody mentions the numerous flops and instead pick up only on the one or two who made it. I despair that so much stock can be put into that level of football. It also seems very weird to me that Wael can spend all that money to clear the debts and yet install such a Poundland management team, no experience of senior football between them and it’s not even like Garner has turned out to be a pleasant surprise- the initial omens have been pretty poor with one of the worst runs in the club’s history, nay, football league history suggesting that there is a massive step up in tactics and theory between coaching some kids on a park and directing a team of men. It’s really frustrating that off the pitch we *finally* look like getting our sh** together but on it we could be in for a very hard season feel free to bring this post back up though if I’m proved wrong- I don’t think I will be! Come on 365 the dig about academy football is a tad unfair. Of course they don’t do parades for them but I suspect that most of our teams over the past 10 year since have come through some form of academy, ours and others. You seem to hint that we’ll only sign academy players. Grant isn’t though he is young. It’s just some of our recent signings have come from better academies and have now stepped into league football. We’ve got plenty of experience, Jaakola, Little, Rodman, Ogogo, JCH, Davies (if fit) and we don’t even know when we will start. When firm dates come, we will sign others. As to finding it weird that Wael has gone this way, I think exactly the opposite. It’s his show now and he is going to do it his way and tbf to him what’s happened in the past few months is more or less what he said back in the Spring of ‘16. I would have found it strange if he’d gone for an older, more journeyman manager who might have failed in other places. He’s set out a way and method to follow and he’s going to do it. If Garner etc. fails he will still go for a younger football-playing replacement to fit in with what he wants. Try and enjoy the ride 365, Wael has put a lot of money into BRFC so he wants to succeed and he will be doing it his way. I hope BG is successful but if he fails he will be replaced by a similar, younger, football playing manager. UTG! But you’re going from one extreme to the other there- the academy manager to the journeyman, how about someone competent who sits in the middle? You make a good point about our players who came through academies- I recall the Chelsea academy players who didn’t set the world alight! A good example of how academy football is not a good breeding ground for lower league football. As a Wales fan it’s been noticeable how one of the recent stars of under 23 football, Ben Woodburn, looks like he has gone backwards in his career since going to Oxford. There is such a gulf between that level and league football and that culture of football and the sort of teams we see at league one level. So I can’t help but feel that the investment in a lack of experience in both the coaching staff and the team is going to bite us on the arse. People also seem to have erased Garner’s 2 wins in 20 games from their memory banks- it’s not like he’s got an untested record yet, he’s already well on his way to being statistically one of the worst managers the football league has ever seen and any club with a hint of ambition would have shown him the door already. Wael seems to have been really seduced but him and I’m disappointed he hasn’t at least looked to insist on an experienced man to work with him.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2020 22:44:55 GMT
Well yes that’s it isn’t it- as I said when Garner was appointed why isn’t anyone else already taking this path? Crewe has a number of successful academy products back in the day but they have never been any more successful than a tier 3/4 outfit. It seems to be a tried and tested route to success in the lower leagues: you need older pros mostly with a sprinkling of youngsters. I can’t see putting an academy side on the pitch coached by an academy set of coaches in a physical league full of men ending too well for us. I really fear for us this season. You conveniently fail to mention we already have plenty of experience with the likes Anssi, Little, Ogogo, Upson, Rodman, JCH etc and have been heavily linked with another League One side's 28-year-old captain and a 27-year-old with League One experience. True, but they were here before Garner arrived. Since then we’ve brought in numerous youngsters so there is a clear sea change in transfer policy. I had a total appreciation for why because obviously the debts were a mill stone round our neck. Now the debts have been wiped I am hoping we don’t have to be so focused on young players and invest in some experienced coaching staff. I suspect despite the expunging of the debts nothing has changed in the business plan going forward- lots of young players for our academy tier coaching team to work with. I really really hope I’m proved wrong, but it’s an under-whelming prospect especially considering that we are likely to see a reasonably big club fall from the championship to joint Portsmouth, Ipswich and Sunderland.
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Post by axegas on Jul 18, 2020 22:52:22 GMT
You conveniently fail to mention we already have plenty of experience with the likes Anssi, Little, Ogogo, Upson, Rodman, JCH etc and have been heavily linked with another League One side's 28-year-old captain and a 27-year-old with League One experience. True, but they were here before Garner arrived. Since then we’ve brought in numerous youngsters so there is a clear sea change in transfer policy. I had a total appreciation for why because obviously the debts were a mill stone round our neck. Now the debts have been wiped I am hoping we don’t have to be so focused on young players and invest in some experienced coaching staff. I suspect despite the expunging of the debts nothing has changed in the business plan going forward- lots of young players for our academy tier coaching team to work with. I really really hope I’m proved wrong, but it’s an under-whelming prospect especially considering that we are likely to see a reasonably big club fall from the championship to joint Portsmouth, Ipswich and Sunderland. According to the Bristol Post, who have been spot on with Rovers transfer dealings to date, at least 2/3 experienced players are due to sign for the club, with Garner looking to bring some experience to the club along with youngsters he can develop. I guess it's just a matter of perspective but I'm quite excited that we're going down the youngster route, especially as the young players we are signing appear to have real pedigree and crucially we've got a good few experienced pro's in the squad to complement them and help them develop. Even if part of the reason for doing it is to reduce the wage budget, that is no bad thing with the debts the club has managed to rack up in recent years.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2020 22:57:36 GMT
Just to add It’s also surprising perhaps that Wael has not insisted on a full time experienced coach as a condition of the run Garner went on last season. As an audition for the job it wasn’t good and there seems to be a desperate need for a Lennie and Trolls type setup if we are going to persist with Garner. Perhaps Coppell is still helping out but his name does not inspire much seeing as he has been out of jobs in English football for a decade since walking out on City. I’m sure we could do better for an older head to give Garner some coaching on tactics and game management. If you don’t think that there is multiple older experienced managers that not only BG is talking to, but every manager is talking to then your mad. Just because Steve coppell is something you’ve heard of doesn’t mean that’s it, he worked at Crystal Palace for years, do you think he hasn’t spoken to the past managers there? Your stuck in this thinking that you HAVE to have experience for it to work, yes it’s worked having that system before but it has with a fresh young approach as well. When guardiola took over at Barcelona his assistant was in his 30’s, that didn’t go well at all. This isn’t a dig because everyone can have there opinion but this whole last seasons audition didn’t go well; what the audition where the team isn’t something you’ve put together, a team that has just had the shock of there careers (4th and manager walks away), selection of fan base that no matter who gets appointed it isn’t good enough, not to mention the family problems he went through, if that’s the audition then fair play for taking it in the first place. But he didn’t seem to be learning or adapting, there was no evolving to what he was seeing, just the same approach of tippy tappy before resorting to goofing in the latter stages when the ineffective tippy tappy didn’t work. If he was talking to numerous experienced managers then they quite patently failed him because his record after taking over was rank bad and crucially he didn’t seem to be learning anything. Guardiola is a really strange example to use, a club with Barcelona’s resources wouldn’t have just taken a punt on a 30 year old, there would have been intense scrutiny of his character and ideas. Have we put the same amount of effort into identifying Garner as the man to take us forward? Undoubtedly not. The issue for me is that whilst people might argue that he’s going to come good at the moment he’s had a decent amount of games now to demonstrate some nous, that there is potential there and we haven’t really seen it. So the people who have faith are puffing away on hopium because the actual facts state that he is one of the worst managers the football league has seen, so far. He has got a hell of a lot to do to turn that round and get his win percentage looking anywhere near credible let alone decent. Thankfully for him time is on his side because I reckon he will be given all of next season even if we end up getting relegated.
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Post by Wembley_Gas on Jul 19, 2020 0:35:07 GMT
It sounds like our coaching sessions are going to be fresh and inventive. We’ve got a full pre season to get the team playing in the managers preferred style with his round pegs in round holes rather than the square pegs he started with. These players should have several months to convince us that the Sunderland game was the start of turning the corner rather than a temporary bright spot In a grim continued rut. The clearing of the debt is not a signal to go running up more debt chasing experienced expensive footballers. We’ve been told what the blueprint is. Have a few wise heads yes but in the main fill the squad with young talent that has the potential to be coached into being a useful footballing asset whilst they are here and when they leave us to further their careers they contribute something to the profit column to help towards sustainability. So, if one of Daly, Grant, Barrett or Harries has a great season with us we may be able to use their sale proceeds to fund the next four prospects, even better if we can develop one of Kilgour, Tomlinson, Walker, Warwick or Phillips, say as that provides encouragement to the Academy and Youth development areas of the club. We have ambitions to be a championship club but if BG and JM cannot get us there then their secondary target is to make us more competitive in L1 using the Peterborough model of developing talent that you can sell to generate funds to buy better raw material that you can develop and sell for a higher price to generate...etc etc. This management team might just be good at that if we give them a chance,
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Post by piratejames on Jul 19, 2020 5:32:33 GMT
If you don’t think that there is multiple older experienced managers that not only BG is talking to, but every manager is talking to then your mad. Just because Steve coppell is something you’ve heard of doesn’t mean that’s it, he worked at Crystal Palace for years, do you think he hasn’t spoken to the past managers there? Your stuck in this thinking that you HAVE to have experience for it to work, yes it’s worked having that system before but it has with a fresh young approach as well. When guardiola took over at Barcelona his assistant was in his 30’s, that didn’t go well at all. This isn’t a dig because everyone can have there opinion but this whole last seasons audition didn’t go well; what the audition where the team isn’t something you’ve put together, a team that has just had the shock of there careers (4th and manager walks away), selection of fan base that no matter who gets appointed it isn’t good enough, not to mention the family problems he went through, if that’s the audition then fair play for taking it in the first place. But he didn’t seem to be learning or adapting, there was no evolving to what he was seeing, just the same approach of tippy tappy before resorting to goofing in the latter stages when the ineffective tippy tappy didn’t work. If he was talking to numerous experienced managers then they quite patently failed him because his record after taking over was rank bad and crucially he didn’t seem to be learning anything. Guardiola is a really strange example to use, a club with Barcelona’s resources wouldn’t have just taken a punt on a 30 year old, there would have been intense scrutiny of his character and ideas. Have we put the same amount of effort into identifying Garner as the man to take us forward? Undoubtedly not. The issue for me is that whilst people might argue that he’s going to come good at the moment he’s had a decent amount of games now to demonstrate some nous, that there is potential there and we haven’t really seen it. So the people who have faith are puffing away on hopium because the actual facts state that he is one of the worst managers the football league has seen, so far. He has got a hell of a lot to do to turn that round and get his win percentage looking anywhere near credible let alone decent. Thankfully for him time is on his side because I reckon he will be given all of next season even if we end up getting relegated. If you think 16 games and 9 of them being losses makes him the worst the football league have seen then your idea of football is one of dreamland. 16 games is no where near enough time to judge someone, I mean you can if you want to but you definitely haven’t got enough evidence. Guardiola isn’t a weird one to use, you could be the type of guy that goes and walks old lady’s across the street, run marathons every weekend and in his spare time works helping the homeless, doesn’t mean your gonna be a good manager.
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Post by poorblue on Jul 19, 2020 7:27:46 GMT
Remember the Busby Babes. Well the next kids on the block will be the Bristol Babes lead by a young team of excellent coaches. No not hacked on the TV screens but playing and training on excellent grass surfaces to a full house on the way to the Championship just ahead of the new stadium BP missed that scoop
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 19, 2020 7:50:53 GMT
It sounds like our coaching sessions are going to be fresh and inventive. We’ve got a full pre season to get the team playing in the managers preferred style with his round pegs in round holes rather than the square pegs he started with. These players should have several months to convince us that the Sunderland game was the start of turning the corner rather than a temporary bright spot In a grim continued rut. The clearing of the debt is not a signal to go running up more debt chasing experienced expensive footballers. We’ve been told what the blueprint is. Have a few wise heads yes but in the main fill the squad with young talent that has the potential to be coached into being a useful footballing asset whilst they are here and when they leave us to further their careers they contribute something to the profit column to help towards sustainability. So, if one of Daly, Grant, Barrett or Harries has a great season with us we may be able to use their sale proceeds to fund the next four prospects, even better if we can develop one of Kilgour, Tomlinson, Walker, Warwick or Phillips, say as that provides encouragement to the Academy and Youth development areas of the club. We have ambitions to be a championship club but if BG and JM cannot get us there then their secondary target is to make us more competitive in L1 using the Peterborough model of developing talent that you can sell to generate funds to buy better raw material that you can develop and sell for a higher price to generate...etc etc. This management team might just be good at that if we give them a chance, If we not chasing experienced players then why does Steve Evans think he can still talk Ehmer out of joining us and Hearts apparently hope to better our deal for Nicholson? Sign those two and an experienced ACM plus another striker who can actually score and we could have a decent squad. Particularly if the rumoured playing budget disrupts other teams recruitment plans.
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Post by blueridge on Jul 19, 2020 8:59:20 GMT
Back to the original topic on Jack Mesure. He's joint owner of a business called Tornado Football with ex player Richard Shaw of Coventry & Crystal Palace. The player involved with the infamous Eric Cantonna sending off at Selhurst Park.
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Post by Jomo on Jul 19, 2020 9:03:17 GMT
Back to the original topic on Jack Mesure. He's joint owner of a business called Tornado Football with ex player Richard Shaw of Coventry & Crystal Palace. The player involved with the infamous Eric Cantonna sending off at Selhurst Park. Interesting, thanks for the info. On the subject of Richard Shaw, he was interviewed on the Quickly Kevin podcast a couple of months back, and he sounds like a really top bloke. Well worth a listen to any folks interested. Quickly Kevin is an excellent and funny podcast about 90s football nostalgia, highly recommend it.
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Post by Wembley_Gas on Jul 19, 2020 9:34:19 GMT
It sounds like our coaching sessions are going to be fresh and inventive. We’ve got a full pre season to get the team playing in the managers preferred style with his round pegs in round holes rather than the square pegs he started with. These players should have several months to convince us that the Sunderland game was the start of turning the corner rather than a temporary bright spot In a grim continued rut. The clearing of the debt is not a signal to go running up more debt chasing experienced expensive footballers. We’ve been told what the blueprint is. but in the main fill the squad with young talent that has the potential to be coached into being a useful footballing asset whilst they are here and when they leave us to further their careers they contribute something to the profit column to help towards sustainability. So, if one of Daly, Grant, Barrett or Harries has a great season with us we may be able to use their sale proceeds to fund the next four prospects, even better if we can develop one of Kilgour, Tomlinson, Walker, Warwick or Phillips, say as that provides encouragement to the Academy and Youth development areas of the club. We have ambitions to be a championship club but if BG and JM cannot get us there then their secondary target is to make us more competitive in L1 using the Peterborough model of developing talent that you can sell to generate funds to buy better raw material that you can develop and sell for a higher price to generate...etc etc. This management team might just be good at that if we give them a chance, If we not chasing experienced players then why does Steve Evans think he can still talk Ehmer out of joining us and Hearts apparently hope to better our deal for Nicholson? Sign those two and an experienced ACM plus another striker who can actually score and we could have a decent squad. Particularly if the rumoured playing budget disrupts other teams recruitment plans. Look, I understand generating 18 and a half thousand posts gives you very little time to bother to read anyone else’s words but don’t create arguments that aren’t there. When I say “ Have a few wise heads yes“ I’m including Ehmer, Baldwin and hopefully Nicholson amongst those. The important point is our model has to be that the larger percentage of the squad will be raw talents either from our own production line or promising imports from elsewhere, whether that be premiership academies or non league first teams. Whilst our squad is necessarily balanced that way we must be patient, they will be inconsistent, they will take the wrong option now and again and they will make the odd ricket but as they improve we hopefully watch better football whilst they become assets that can sustain the club and further their careers too.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 19, 2020 9:44:22 GMT
If we not chasing experienced players then why does Steve Evans think he can still talk Ehmer out of joining us and Hearts apparently hope to better our deal for Nicholson? Sign those two and an experienced ACM plus another striker who can actually score and we could have a decent squad. Particularly if the rumoured playing budget disrupts other teams recruitment plans. Look, I understand generating 18 and a half thousand posts gives you very little time to bother to read anyone else’s words but don’t create arguments that aren’t there. When I say “ Have a few wise heads yes“ I’m including Ehmer, Baldwin and hopefully Nicholson amongst those. The important point is our model has to be that the larger percentage of the squad will be raw talents either from our own production line or promising imports from elsewhere, whether that be premiership academies or non league first teams. Whilst our squad is necessarily balanced that way we must be patient, they will be inconsistent, they will take the wrong option now and again and they will make the odd ricket but as they improve we hopefully watch better football whilst they become assets that can sustain the club and further their careers too. I've got all the time in the world during lockdown but perhaps if you started using paragraphs it would make it easier to read? As far as your OP the clear indication I got from it was BG wouldn't be bringing in anymore experienced players, having read it again I'm still of the same opinion. Truth is none of us have a clear that our squad will look like come September and none of us also have a clue whether we'll perform any better than last season or not all we can do is hope we will.
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Post by althepirate on Jul 19, 2020 10:20:30 GMT
If we not chasing experienced players then why does Steve Evans think he can still talk Ehmer out of joining us and Hearts apparently hope to better our deal for Nicholson? Sign those two and an experienced ACM plus another striker who can actually score and we could have a decent squad. Particularly if the rumoured playing budget disrupts other teams recruitment plans. Look, I understand generating 18 and a half thousand posts gives you very little time to bother to read anyone else’s words but don’t create arguments that aren’t there. When I say “ Have a few wise heads yes“ I’m including Ehmer, Baldwin and hopefully Nicholson amongst those. The important point is our model has to be that the larger percentage of the squad will be raw talents either from our own production line or promising imports from elsewhere, whether that be premiership academies or non league first teams. Whilst our squad is necessarily balanced that way we must be patient, they will be inconsistent, they will take the wrong option now and again and they will make the odd ricket but as they improve we hopefully watch better football whilst they become assets that can sustain the club and further their careers too. It all sounds a good plan on paper. However the plan requires huge patience, how many times will this forum go into meltdown after losing runs whilst the players and management are 'learning'. I can see posts saying 'Im not going until they know what their doing' or 'Im not going again until we are in our new stadium' This will I think be the biggest problem, unless we hit the ground running which is a big ask. In the meantime we must be grateful we don't have to play Wycombe and hope we don't get Mansfield in the Cup.
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Post by Jomo on Jul 19, 2020 10:23:50 GMT
Look, I understand generating 18 and a half thousand posts gives you very little time to bother to read anyone else’s words but don’t create arguments that aren’t there. When I say “ Have a few wise heads yes“ I’m including Ehmer, Baldwin and hopefully Nicholson amongst those. The important point is our model has to be that the larger percentage of the squad will be raw talents either from our own production line or promising imports from elsewhere, whether that be premiership academies or non league first teams. Whilst our squad is necessarily balanced that way we must be patient, they will be inconsistent, they will take the wrong option now and again and they will make the odd ricket but as they improve we hopefully watch better football whilst they become assets that can sustain the club and further their careers too. It all sounds a good plan on paper. However the plan requires huge patience, how many times will this forum go into meltdown after losing runs whilst the players and management are 'learning'. I can see posts saying 'Im not going until they know what their doing' or 'Im not going again until we are in our new stadium' This will I think be the biggest problem unless we hit the ground running which is a big ask. In the meantime we must be grateful we don't have to play Wycombe and hope we don't get Mansfield in the Cup. Not to mention that if we're comfortably in midtable any win means we're going up, and any defeat means we're going down. If there's no chance of either, many will say "I've just lost the spark" or some such. It's the fickle nature of fans. It's never satisfactory for some unless it's a constant upward-trend, which as history tells any club, simply cannot last forever.
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Post by Hudson1883 on Jul 19, 2020 10:36:05 GMT
And you know this how? Let’s just write the man off before he even gets here eh! Unfortunately there are some fans out there that will pick a whole in anything, I think it’s great everyone has there own view or opinion, but there are some that if we announced a stadium they’d say it’s too far away, too small, if we announce a player, he’s not good enough for us, or too young or old, if we get a manager with tonnes of experience he’s a journeyman, if we get a young fresh manager, it’s too inexperienced. Can’t please everyone. But what you can do, if you really support this club, is give anyone that comes to this great club a fair shot before being slated. Some people are so consumed by negativity, it genuinely brings them joy.
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Post by CrispPusher on Jul 19, 2020 11:05:11 GMT
When Garner and this bloke move on I would much prefer they're replaced with young and hungry management working their way up from the divisions below, opposed to satellite more people in from youth football that probably consider anything below League 1 beneath them.
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Post by pirate on Jul 19, 2020 11:44:02 GMT
When Garner and this bloke move on I would much prefer they're replaced with young and hungry management working their way up from the divisions below, opposed to satellite more people in from youth football that probably consider anything below League 1 beneath them. I mean this with all the due respect it deserves, but you are talking absolute nonsense here mate. Before he was appointed our manager, Garner is someone who gave his time free of charge to deliver a coaching session and talk to help rovers fans with mental health difficulties as part of ‘Recovery through Sport’ a Bristol Rovers Community Trust partnership project delivered by South Gloucestershire NHS. Not the actions or the type of character that would "consider anything below League 1 beneath them." Garner has put the hard yards in during his younger days by coaching in development centres, teaching PE in several schools and has coached/managed non-league youth teams, which again shows you are wrong with the "beneath them" remark. For your information if you aren't aware, Mesure also coached in non-league in his younger days.
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Post by CrispPusher on Jul 19, 2020 12:31:49 GMT
When Garner and this bloke move on I would much prefer they're replaced with young and hungry management working their way up from the divisions below, opposed to satellite more people in from youth football that probably consider anything below League 1 beneath them. I mean this with all the due respect it deserves, but you are talking absolute nonsense here mate. Before he was appointed our manager, Garner is someone who gave his time free of charge to deliver a coaching session and talk to help rovers fans with mental health difficulties as part of ‘Recovery through Sport’ a Bristol Rovers Community Trust partnership project delivered by South Gloucestershire NHS. Not the actions or the type of character that would "consider anything below League 1 beneath them." Garner has put the hard yards in during his younger days by coaching in development centres, teaching PE in several schools and has coached/managed non-league youth teams, which again shows you are wrong with the "beneath them" remark. For your information if you aren't aware, Mesure also coached in non-league in his younger days. Classic. A teenager down the road from me coaches kids wouldn't want him getting the job, but I'd still back him to get more than 0.6875 points per game if he did!
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Post by pirate on Jul 19, 2020 13:02:57 GMT
I mean this with all the due respect it deserves, but you are talking absolute nonsense here mate. Before he was appointed our manager, Garner is someone who gave his time free of charge to deliver a coaching session and talk to help rovers fans with mental health difficulties as part of ‘Recovery through Sport’ a Bristol Rovers Community Trust partnership project delivered by South Gloucestershire NHS. Not the actions or the type of character that would "consider anything below League 1 beneath them." Garner has put the hard yards in during his younger days by coaching in development centres, teaching PE in several schools and has coached/managed non-league youth teams, which again shows you are wrong with the "beneath them" remark. For your information if you aren't aware, Mesure also coached in non-league in his younger days. Classic. A teenager down the road from me coaches kids wouldn't want him getting the job, but I'd still back him to get more than 0.6875 points per game if he did! It might be more helpful if you could ask that teenager if he can help you get your facts right as your original post my was absolute garbage.
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