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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 3, 2020 21:15:02 GMT
We just lost 2-0 to a team who bought OUR best asset for 1 million- a fee which we’ve never paid even half as much for a player. No surprise we struggle to live with them in terms of final third domination. Granted JCH may not have been the pick today, but undoubtedly we spent time thinking about how to keep him quiet, which in turn probably gave space to other players to do the damage. Not to mention they also have Dembele who will be shredding teams all season. Beaten by a better team, but over all not beaten by all that much.
When we get a run against a few of the lesser teams I’m confident we will be sat upper mid table. Probably about right. UTG VIrtually beaten 3-0 by a team who hardly seemed to get out of first gear and who also missed a few chances. Is mid table really good enough when BG apparently has a decent wage budget/GC had us inside the top 6. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2020 21:17:29 GMT
Yet again lots of passing to static players and going nowhere, Hanlon never links with his so called partner up front, both do some good individual work but a partnership they are not.
Maybe because there is no crowd but i'm getting bored watching this.
Posh were good going forward but they are not great defending and kept us out fairly easily.
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Post by socrates on Nov 3, 2020 21:18:07 GMT
I think Peterborough were very good and can totally see why they’re top. I thought they showed two pieces of skill for the goals but otherwise couldn't see much in it. No doubt the goals were great strikes but overal I thought they defended brilliantly, their keeper was very assured they had dangers all through midfield , their fullbacks were quality and in dembele if I spelt it right have one of the best attacking players in the division based on that performance. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 3, 2020 21:18:33 GMT
That was as boring as anything I ever saw under Coughlan. From both sides. 2 - 0 flattered Posh. Dull dull dull from all 22 on the field. What was boring under GC we were near the top of the league under him Out of interest how many games did you watch at the Mem last season when GC was in charge? I don't think we've seen a run of decent games at the Mem since Lines legs went. |
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Post by singupgas on Nov 3, 2020 21:19:23 GMT
2 unbelievable strikes separated the sides, however Peterborough didn't really have to get out of 3rd gear.
On us, you can see we are tying to playing a passing game, but we probably not moving the ball fast enough and too often end up going backwards.
I like the idea of passing football, but there has to be an end product, creating chances and putting the ball in the net.
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Post by northridinggas on Nov 3, 2020 21:21:14 GMT
Whilst I’ve got no doubt Peterborough have got a very good side the same old problems for Garner have been shown again tonight. No plan B - surely Garner could see that we weren’t threatening them at all he should have mixed it up tried something different , do we really only train with one rigid system all week ? No tempo- lots of pointless passes but hardly any key passes and that’s because we play such a slow patient game and we give the opposition chance to regroup and get their shape. No experienced midfield general - we stand off them in midfield and invite pressure on to our defence because we have no decent experienced defensive midfielders at the club. Both of their goals were screamers but why did their players have an eternity to shoot from there ? Not enough strikers - hanlan and Daley worked hard but nothing was coming off so we sub Daley and bring on a winger up front. I said this week we’ve got some good players but are lacking in all of the above points and the vast majority of our performances this season have shown it and without addressing these problems we could well find that we’re in a relegation scrap with mid table looking the best possible outcome. Tonight showed it again. A good summary of where we are and made worse by a manager who on current evidence doesn't seem to be able to fire the players up and who seems terrified of making changes |
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Post by markczgas on Nov 3, 2020 21:21:47 GMT
It's easy to shout , complain and be angry when your team lose, but tonight we lost to a very good side who scored Championship level goals. We had a good start and looked bright but no team can sustain that all half. It looked like we would go in 0 -0 but then the goal. That gave them a big lift and confidence boost. 2nd half we didn't create enough but were playing all right until that wonder strike.
We kept going, created a couple of chances but not to be. We have to get up the pitch more and feed balls to the feet of Hanlan and Daly.
Hare was a willing runner but he must have put in 1 good cross out of 7 or 8.Tutonda looks like he's physically struggling stepping up 2 levels and wasn't able to take on players like he has. Perhaps Koiki can step in for him and give him a chance to recharge.
It's a shame we haven't got Ayunga with his height and strength to give us something else from the bench or starting.
Still a lot of positives.- Jaakkola, Ehmer, Westbrooke, Hanlan and Grant ( he is such a solid, accomplished player !). Nicholson will come good - he's catching up after injury.
UTG !
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Post by markczgas on Nov 3, 2020 21:22:34 GMT
The difference tonight was the quality in the final 3rd, in general play we looked every bit as good as them unfortunately you dont get anything for being neat & tidy in possession. Westbrooke & Grant both had good games but we just dont create enough once we get the ball into positions 30 yards from goal, we got Hare into dangerous areas 3 or 4 times in the 2nd half and each time the final ball was lacking. Time maybe to look at giving Oztuhmer a run in the side, we really could do with Ayunga being fit to give us a much needed other option up top. Similar to feelings to the Hull game for me positives to take but also lots to work on particularly from an attacking point of view Ive just written something similar  |
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Post by simonj on Nov 3, 2020 21:23:54 GMT
It's easy to shout , complain and be angry when your team lose, but tonight we lost to a very good side who scored Championship level goals. We had a good start and looked bright but no team can sustain that all half. It looked like we would go in 0 -0 but then the goal. That gave them a big lift and confidence boost. 2nd half we didn't create enough but were playing all right until that wonder strike. We kept going, created a couple of chances but not to be. We have to get up the pitch more and feed balls to the feet of Hanlan and Daly. Hare was a willing runner but he must have put in 1 good cross out of 7 or 8.Tutonda looks like he's physically struggling stepping up 2 levels and wasn't able to take on players like he has. Perhaps Koiki can step in for him and give him a chance to recharge. It's a shame we haven't got Ayunga with his height and strength to give us something else from the bench or starting. Still a lot of positives.- Jaakkola, Ehmer, Westbrooke, Hanlan and Grant ( he is such a solid, accomplished player !). Nicholson will come good - he's catching up after injury. UTG ! Fair shout mark. |
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Post by playtowin on Nov 3, 2020 21:24:52 GMT
A team full of speedy energetic players...so play the ball sideways and back 10 times then hoof it in the air.
The front 2 have no space to run into as Rovers are so slow on the attack.
10 out of 10 for training ground passing triangles though.
Pass forward pass quick and move and chances will occur with these players.
Slow triangles will end in a relegation battle for a squad better than that deserves.
Purely poor management creating boring football currently.
Corners and crosses in the air pretty pointless when you dont have good headers of the ball in the team.
I was expecting a 3-1 defeat so not sure if 2-0 is better or worse !
Onto the FA Cup let's hope for better things.
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Post by toddy1953 on Nov 3, 2020 21:25:29 GMT
It’s like Groundhog Day, start each half with good pressure, high tempo, then back off, slow the game right down, lots of ponderous passing in & around our own penalty area, then run out of ideas. In the end 2 great strikes that were helped by our poor defending but Posh missed a couple of sitters & a great save by Anssi or it could have been 5. They were never in any trouble. They had the standout player on the pitch by a mile in Dembelle,
There used to be a sign as you entered Eastville which said ‘Eastville for Entertainment’ Whatever style of football this is, it’s not entertainment, in my book.
Still, more things to be concerned about I suppose 😩
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Nov 3, 2020 21:28:30 GMT
It's easy to shout , complain and be angry when your team lose, but tonight we lost to a very good side who scored Championship level goals. We had a good start and looked bright but no team can sustain that all half. It looked like we would go in 0 -0 but then the goal. That gave them a big lift and confidence boost. 2nd half we didn't create enough but were playing all right until that wonder strike. We kept going, created a couple of chances but not to be. We have to get up the pitch more and feed balls to the feet of Hanlan and Daly. Hare was a willing runner but he must have put in 1 good cross out of 7 or 8.Tutonda looks like he's physically struggling stepping up 2 levels and wasn't able to take on players like he has. Perhaps Koiki can step in for him and give him a chance to recharge. It's a shame we haven't got Ayunga with his height and strength to give us something else from the bench or starting. Still a lot of positives.- Jaakkola, Ehmer, Westbrooke, Hanlan and Grant ( he is such a solid, accomplished player !). Nicholson will come good - he's catching up after injury. UTG ! Yeah, I felt like that was the most football we've played in a match this season. Might sound like faint praise, but as part of our development, I thought we looked much more promising than in our other losses. If their two worldies had sailed over the bar, my feeling is they would have found a way to get a winner, anyway, but still, we kinda matched them for most of the game. |
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Post by LJG on Nov 3, 2020 21:29:23 GMT
What was boring under GC we were near the top of the league under him Out of interest how many games did you watch at the Mem last season when GC was in charge? I don't think we've seen a run of decent games at the Mem since Lines legs went. Topper's most frequently asked question. |
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Post by alanrg on Nov 3, 2020 21:30:43 GMT
Anybody think with this slow football things would b different if the fans were there I am sure they would not let them get away with that
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Post by LJG on Nov 3, 2020 21:30:56 GMT
That was as boring as anything I ever saw under Coughlan. From both sides. 2 - 0 flattered Posh. Dull dull dull from all 22 on the field. What was boring under GC we were near the top of the league under him What's your point? You can be boring and top of the league. Posh proved that tonight. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2020 21:31:26 GMT
P’Boro are a very strong side. They didn’t destroy us but deserved the win. No huge defensive blunders, ok could have defended better but how often do you get punished twice by such amazing strikes from distance? We were poor in the final third, both wingbacks were disappointing and our most attacking theee players didn’t perform well at all on the night. A few calls for early subs but the brief cameos from Oztumer so far have been a bit disappointing, I fear he may not be the player of 5 years ago everyone thought we were signing but need to see him with more time on the pitch before making judgement. Grant, Westbrooke and Ehmer all very good.
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Post by socrates on Nov 3, 2020 21:34:18 GMT
It's easy to shout , complain and be angry when your team lose, but tonight we lost to a very good side who scored Championship level goals. We had a good start and looked bright but no team can sustain that all half. It looked like we would go in 0 -0 but then the goal. That gave them a big lift and confidence boost. 2nd half we didn't create enough but were playing all right until that wonder strike. We kept going, created a couple of chances but not to be. We have to get up the pitch more and feed balls to the feet of Hanlan and Daly. Hare was a willing runner but he must have put in 1 good cross out of 7 or 8.Tutonda looks like he's physically struggling stepping up 2 levels and wasn't able to take on players like he has. Perhaps Koiki can step in for him and give him a chance to recharge. It's a shame we haven't got Ayunga with his height and strength to give us something else from the bench or starting. Still a lot of positives.- Jaakkola, Ehmer, Westbrooke, Hanlan and Grant ( he is such a solid, accomplished player !). Nicholson will come good - he's catching up after injury. UTG ! Yeah, I felt like that was the most football we've played in a match this season. Might sound like faint praise, but as part of our development, I thought we looked much more promising than in our other losses. If their two worldies had sailed over the bar, my feeling is they would have found a way to get a winner, anyway, but still, we kinda matched them for most of the game. We probably played as many passes so we matched them in that respect but one stat I noticed on I follow at half time was key passes. Whilst possession was 47-53 in their favour key passes was 6 to them 1 to us. I reckon by the end they’d played about 12 key passes to our probably about 2. That was the difference and the reason they created all those decent passes was because in my opinion anyway they moved it quicker than we did. |
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Post by lordlucan on Nov 3, 2020 21:35:31 GMT
Poor performance. Personally, I think Garner has run his course and it's time he went. There is very little inspiring about the team at the moment. The only saving grace is that I don't have to travel 94 miles to to watch it.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Nov 3, 2020 21:35:44 GMT
I don't mind starting sh** and ending on a high and missing out but losing because you've lost the tempo and let the other side capitalise week in week out is infuriating.
We weren't a million miles off though and we were done over by two quality moments by the Posh. Their difference is quality in the final third which we are distinctly lacking in. That is a difference that from what I've seen will see us being in different halves of the table come May (if we make it)
My concern like Socrates is the same pattern of play every week with no plan B and no positive tactical or substitutional interventions by Garner. Substitutions are far too late and often not the right decision.
It is Peterborough though so onto the next game, and lets treat November like a mini table - what can we get out of it.
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Post by axegas on Nov 3, 2020 21:37:08 GMT
Just my opinion of course but I think it was more than just two good finishes that separated the two sides tonight. I was disappointed with our performance, we started brightly but for long periods of that game we passed the ball around slowly, not really creating anything that would pose too much of a threat to the Peterborough defence. We were in the game but it feels like just a couple of goals is enough to defeat us at the moment, we don’t score enough ourselves.
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