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Post by goodnightirene1883 on Feb 24, 2021 8:42:42 GMT
Sorry Chums was not able to sustain my 100% win record on matchday threads but I bloody tried. Created a visual of some of the stats which may offer up some hope that if we can just tighten up these silly Chuffing defensive bits (Please Clint Hill please!) then at least we now create substantially more chances at the other end than we used to. This was of last nights match - heat map shows us much further up the pitch than we used to be. 20 shots on goal vs their 4. Average player position shows are full backs up the pitch. Our DMs playing deep and Luke playing right up joining the attack. Importantly 35% of possession in their final third. Attachment DeletedIt was a gut punch to lose for sure. I still share Joey's optimism and thought he spoke very well last night - remembering to add 'Rovers' when mentioning Bristol and using players full names and giving credit to players individually and as a team. I believe him when he says he will be watching those goals over and over tonight and fully expect he will be working with all the coaching staff today to make the information as easy to digest as possible. Would love it if players contacted the management team to ask if they can come in and work today (mentally) on some of the defensive stuff while resting their bodies. Show that desire to eliminate this problem from our team rather than waiting to be told tomorrow. Anyways onto an 'in form' Shrewsbury team next - good luck to who ever starts the thread on Saturday - Goodnight Irene I'll see you in my dreams! UTG |
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Post by seanclevedongas on Feb 24, 2021 9:33:53 GMT
To be fair Tilly those that didn't want Barton as manager were getting a lot of abuse earlier in the week/end of last week and may see it as some sort of vindication to their view. I am fuming and disgusted that Barton was given the job but the Gas are my team, I will still watch every game and support the team. I actually think Barton will eventually do a good job. I don't think anyone could keep us up but I do think he will bring us back after assembling his own team in the summer. I also think we have some very good technically gifted players, we just lack where it matters I'm always interested to read opposing opinions, and I agree that nobody should be receiving abuse, if they are airing them in a reasonable manner. However, posting like a demented parrot on the matchday thread, when we'd just gone down to such a late goal is inexcusable in my eyes. JB's certainly got a job on his hands, with games coming thick and fast, so not a great deal of time on the training ground in between. Onwards and upwards on Saturday - let's get behind them. Hi Tilly I accept and respect your opinion but again just for balance there have been some very provocative posts/goading from the pro Barton brigade also |
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Post by lastminutewinner on Feb 24, 2021 9:43:22 GMT
Ironic how 2 scousers scored against us in Joeys first game
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Post by oddsongas on Feb 24, 2021 10:05:52 GMT
I know it’s not much, but I thought Westbrooke was good when he came on.
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Post by goodnightirene1883 on Feb 24, 2021 13:56:50 GMT
Did anyone else notice that our own set pieces seemed to have changed a bit (certainly corners) Massive huddle on the pen spot followed by chaos as the ball comes in. Nearly worked on a couple of occasions. Thoughts?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2021 14:04:08 GMT
Did anyone else notice that our own set pieces seemed to have changed a bit (certainly corners) Massive huddle on the pen spot followed by chaos as the ball comes in. Nearly worked on a couple of occasions. Thoughts? I’d like to see someone try a corner where 6 or 7 attackers have a starting position near the halfway line and then make a run from there like a swarm of bees. Arriving in the box as a group, at pace as a floated corner arrives. I wouldn’t want to try and defend that! |
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Post by goodnightirene1883 on Feb 24, 2021 14:06:47 GMT
Did anyone else notice that our own set pieces seemed to have changed a bit (certainly corners) Massive huddle on the pen spot followed by chaos as the ball comes in. Nearly worked on a couple of occasions. Thoughts? I’d like to see someone try a corner where 6 or 7 attackers have a starting position near the halfway line and then make a run from there like a swarm of bees. Arriving in the box as a group, at pace as a floated corner arrives. I wouldn’t want to try and defend that! Might work in our away kit |
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Post by baggins on Feb 24, 2021 16:05:22 GMT
Did anyone else notice that our own set pieces seemed to have changed a bit (certainly corners) Massive huddle on the pen spot followed by chaos as the ball comes in. Nearly worked on a couple of occasions. Thoughts? I’d like to see someone try a corner where 6 or 7 attackers have a starting position near the halfway line and then make a run from there like a swarm of bees. Arriving in the box as a group, at pace as a floated corner arrives. I wouldn’t want to try and defend that! Ask Brentford if that works. |
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Post by theduke on Feb 24, 2021 17:43:26 GMT
Thought we played alright, definitely the better side.
As usual we suffer from our achilles heel which is not enough goal scorers in the squad, and an inability to defend set-pieces. If Barton can solve either one of those issues then we'll stay up.
As an aside, anybody concerned about Nicholson? I know he's carrying an injury, which would explain why he's dropped off, but he's nowhere near as effective after that brief spell where he looked like a Mandalorian wading into a bar fight. He looks weak and hasn't got any acceleration to beat a man.
I hope we're not aggravating his injury by playing him twice a week. When he's as ineffectual as this, we may as well bench him and hope that rest solves some of the issue.
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 24, 2021 18:07:00 GMT
Nicholson probably not being helped by us changing managers every 5 minutes, perhaps he'll improve with a few games under JB?
I was wondering last night how many managers Leahy and Rodman etc have played under in the last couple of seasons I make it: DC, GC, JD, KM, BG,KM(again when BG was on compassionate leave),TW,PT,TW (again),JB that's 10 different managers in just over 2 years!
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Post by bobbyjones on Feb 24, 2021 18:14:23 GMT
Nicholson probably not being helped by us changing managers every 5 minutes, perhaps he'll improve with a few games under JB? I was wondering last night how many managers Leahy and Rodman etc have played under in the last couple of seasons I make it: DC, GC, JD, KM, BG,KM(again when BG was on compassionate leave),TW,PT,TW (again),JB that's 10 different managers in just over 2 years! You would have thought they would have learned something in that time but obviously not. |
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Post by EastVanGas on Feb 24, 2021 19:15:04 GMT
Nicholson probably not being helped by us changing managers every 5 minutes, perhaps he'll improve with a few games under JB? I was wondering last night how many managers Leahy and Rodman etc have played under in the last couple of seasons I make it: DC, GC, JD, KM, BG,KM(again when BG was on compassionate leave),TW,PT,TW (again),JB that's 10 different managers in just over 2 years! Rodman & Upson, Leahy was signed by GC. |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Feb 24, 2021 19:24:16 GMT
That goal last night felt like the sort of goal that will send us down and we'll look back at and say how pivotal that goal was in sending us down. 😭
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Post by alanrg on Feb 24, 2021 20:28:06 GMT
Last 2 games v Gillingham and Wigan 40 shots at goal and one goal scored opposition 16 shots at goal 3 goals scored it says it all why we are where we are and that reason will send us down can’t score goals and incapable of keeping clean sheets
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Post by William Wilson on Feb 24, 2021 20:36:12 GMT
Did anyone else notice that our own set pieces seemed to have changed a bit (certainly corners) Massive huddle on the pen spot followed by chaos as the ball comes in. Nearly worked on a couple of occasions. Thoughts? I’d like to see someone try a corner where 6 or 7 attackers have a starting position near the halfway line and then make a run from there like a swarm of bees. Sounds more like a scaled down version of the battle of Agincourt. |
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Post by pucklegas on Feb 24, 2021 20:37:53 GMT
Last 2 games v Gillingham and Wigan 40 shots at goal and one goal scored opposition 16 shots at goal 3 goals scored it says it all why we are where we are and that reason will send us down can’t score goals and incapable of keeping clean sheets Well at least we are having shots, if Hanlan s shot goes in off the post I think we would have won that match, Williams had a great chance and should have gone far post across the goal, rather than near. I remember under Ben we never hardly had any shots so I think we will improve but agree poor return from so many shots. |
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Post by cockergas on Feb 24, 2021 20:39:29 GMT
I’d like to see someone try a corner where 6 or 7 attackers have a starting position near the halfway line and then make a run from there like a swarm of bees. Sounds more like a scaled down version of the battle of Agincourt. or British Bulldog |
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Post by yaz on Feb 24, 2021 20:45:07 GMT
Did anyone else notice that our own set pieces seemed to have changed a bit (certainly corners) Massive huddle on the pen spot followed by chaos as the ball comes in. Nearly worked on a couple of occasions. Thoughts? I’d like to see someone try a corner where 6 or 7 attackers have a starting position near the halfway line and then make a run from there like a swarm of bees. Arriving in the box as a group, at pace as a floated corner arrives. I wouldn’t want to try and defend that! Bunch together is so so. Still need loose players at edge of box to pick up loose ends or “unfriendly “ crosses as per Wigan first goal. As regards bunch 1/2 way, we will probably concede even more as they will attack us or pick up the loose ball! Set pieces, especially corners better if kept simple ie one man taking and delivered into box! How many short corners did we mess up yesterday and ended up passing back to goalie or loosing the ball. Plus the control of our players generally means just get it in first time. Tippy tappy at back or on wings dies not work for us?! Simples! PS For a good change, Grant played well and looked to go forwards rather than backwards. Also Westbrook played well when he came on but needs to extend his focal width when with the ball? 2 players I have previously criticised a lot! |
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 24, 2021 21:14:04 GMT
Last 2 games v Gillingham and Wigan 40 shots at goal and one goal scored opposition 16 shots at goal 3 goals scored it says it all why we are where we are and that reason will send us down can’t score goals and incapable of keeping clean sheets Assuming you watch the game on iFollow then you'll know the number of shots really counts for nothing, it's how many chances we missed, from memory they weren't many, Ayunga's near the end of the match, is the only one i can recall where we forced the goalie to make a save. I still can't understand why Leahy took the free kick on the edge of the box after McCormick scored a wonder goal from a similar position at Crewe, plus he had the win behind him so the ball would have flew in if he'd got it over the wall. |
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Feb 24, 2021 21:15:36 GMT
I’d like to see someone try a corner where 6 or 7 attackers have a starting position near the halfway line and then make a run from there like a swarm of bees. Sounds more like a scaled down version of the battle of Agincourt. Should get Lee Archer to take it. |
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