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Post by Goose on Sept 3, 2023 8:26:05 GMT
We've a tough run coming up, if we don't start getting victories this season will be a struggle. I think the international break will help us
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Post by Qatar Gas on Sept 3, 2023 9:30:59 GMT
We've a tough run coming up, if we don't start getting victories this season will be a struggle. I think the international break will help us Six games in and we are basically 19th (the two teams with points deductions will be above us within a couple of weeks). Many people say give it ten games to see where we are so I am happy to wait to see if there's any improvement. Hopefully we can use the pizza cup game to our advantage on Tuesday as there's a lot players short of game time, many of which are not even making the squad right now so hopefully they will all get a run out this week. |
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Post by peterhooper57 on Sept 3, 2023 9:52:23 GMT
It’s looking again like other than half season of luck (a formation he had no intention of playing and a Geordie he knew nothing about) joey may not actually be that great a manager. I know it will now be a Joey lovers vs hater thing but huge improvements needed between now and December to convince me he can get us out of this division (the right way). Are we even really playing entertaining football? Or living off a short lived past So you don't like Joey. Believe it or not Joey does not set out to or need to convince you about anything. Imo other than GF, he has done and is doing a lot better than most of all the others that have come here before him, he certainly has better connections in the game than any other former BRFC manager, which is not surprising as he did play for both Manchester City and Newcastle in the premiership. Yes, its a shame we did not get JCH, and we do not win most of our matches, when did we ever do that ?; as Joey said in his post match interview, it now gives somebody else the chance to step up. |
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Post by gashead1981 on Sept 3, 2023 9:56:22 GMT
Style of football has to be quicker. One thing I notice in the blackthorn is the crowd now are starting to have no engagement with the game until we get near the penalty box.chatting and looking at phones it's no wonder the atmosphere is pretty quiet. Not just the blackthorn end. It’s totally boring to watch. JB wants to create excitement with his football he says. What gets crowds excited is creating chances, having shots on goal and then scoring goals. There is no real pleasure in watching great possession across the back line and wings for it to come all the way back again. |
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Post by badengas on Sept 3, 2023 9:57:54 GMT
Not good enough so far this season, rapid improvement a possibility but also becoming a necessity.
We've all seen great runs here before, we need to start one.
No point in "Barton out" yet as it simply distracts the players and fans, but we need more goals and wins.
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Post by yattongas on Sept 3, 2023 9:59:47 GMT
We've a tough run coming up, if we don't start getting victories this season will be a struggle. I think the international break will help us Six games in and we are basically 19th (the two teams with points deductions will be above us within a couple of weeks). Many people say give it ten games to see where we are so I am happy to wait to see if there's any improvement. Hopefully we can use the pizza cup game to our advantage on Tuesday as there's a lot players short of game time, many of which are not even making the squad right now so hopefully they will all get a run out this week. Agreed . Results are just not good enough at the moment and Barton has got the players he wanted ( and is very happy with ) apart from JCH. There’s plenty of time to get things right but I’d hope by the 15/20 game mark we’re at least in the top half of this league with the players at his disposal. At some point we have to start questioning but it’s a bit too early in the season to do it now. |
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Post by gasheadontour on Sept 3, 2023 10:00:53 GMT
JB takes inspiration from the Bill Shankly way which is to keep the ball, short passes, have patience, not take risks until the final third of the pitch. Shankly used to have the team staying together the night before home and away matches.
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Post by gulfofaden on Sept 3, 2023 10:16:34 GMT
Current style of play demonstrated by the Simpson’s take on football.
1 min 34 to see our current style
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Sept 3, 2023 10:29:00 GMT
🤣😂
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Post by Qatar Gas on Sept 3, 2023 10:31:27 GMT
Scott Brown has been given the boot by Fleetwood (who have one point from six)
So that’s now two League One managers already gone six games into the season!
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 3, 2023 10:33:09 GMT
JB takes inspiration from the Bill Shankly way which is to keep the ball, short passes, have patience, not take risks until the final third of the pitch. Shankly used to have the team staying together the night before home and away matches. If that's the case why did he have a different style both in L2 and the start of last season? I can't recall the Fleetwood side bored us to death when they trashed BG's side at the Mem? |
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Post by RD on Sept 3, 2023 10:38:12 GMT
Style of football has to be quicker. One thing I notice in the blackthorn is the crowd now are starting to have no engagement with the game until we get near the penalty box.chatting and looking at phones it's no wonder the atmosphere is pretty quiet. Not just the blackthorn end. It’s totally boring to watch. JB wants to create excitement with his football he says. What gets crowds excited is creating chances, having shots on goal and then scoring goals. There is no real pleasure in watching great possession across the back line and wings for it to come all the way back again. Nail on head. Passing it around aimlessly is LITERALLY the most boring style of football going. Without purpose, I'd take route one, long ball every day of the week. At least getting it into the mixer would get your heart going. Don't get me wrong, if we can find a way to make possession based football equate to attacking/exciting football then brilliant. But I've seen absolutely nothing whatsoever - except for when we had a premiership footballer playing for us in L2 - to suggest this tippy-tappy nonsense will get us anywhere. If we don't find a way to start playing with some va-va-voom soon, we need to tear it up and go more direct. Honestly it's the most dull, boring, uninspiring garbage imaginable. |
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Post by gasheadontour on Sept 3, 2023 10:46:35 GMT
JB takes inspiration from the Bill Shankly way which is to keep the ball, short passes, have patience, not take risks until the final third of the pitch. Shankly used to have the team staying together the night before home and away matches. If that's the case why did he have a different style both in L2 and the start of last season? I can't recall the Fleetwood side bored us to death when they trashed BG's side at the Mem? the possession based style of football helps persuade higher placed clubs to loan young players |
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Post by wertongas on Sept 3, 2023 10:46:49 GMT
Lots of fans have been saying are recruitment is good , but is it that good when we flood the midfield, strengthen our defence but our forward line is short of two or three experienced strikers. Even with JCH we would have still been short of striker cover.
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Post by scottleroc on Sept 3, 2023 10:52:21 GMT
It’s looking again like other than half season of luck (a formation he had no intention of playing and a Geordie he knew nothing about) joey may not actually be that great a manager. I know it will now be a Joey lovers vs hater thing but huge improvements needed between now and December to convince me he can get us out of this division (the right way). Are we even really playing entertaining football? Or living off a short lived past So you don't like Joey. Believe it or not Joey does not set out to or need to convince you about anything. Imo other than GF, he has done and is doing a lot better than most of all the others that have come here before him, he certainly has better connections in the game than any other former BRFC manager, which is not surprising as he did play for both Manchester City and Newcastle in the premiership. Yes, its a shame we did not get JCH, and we do not win most of our matches, when did we ever do that ?; as Joey said in his post match interview, it now gives somebody else the chance to step up. Does it have to be whether you like Joey or not though? I think nearly all the comments on here so far have been about style of play and results. I can’t speak for Percy but I want to judge him on performance and he is a great believer in that too. In my opinion we aren’t performing well or scrapping results so jury out but don’t think he should go now and I don’t see the club sacking him unless we are bottom 4 around Christmas. Which I hope we’re not!! |
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Post by percy on Sept 3, 2023 11:00:20 GMT
So you don't like Joey. Believe it or not Joey does not set out to or need to convince you about anything. Imo other than GF, he has done and is doing a lot better than most of all the others that have come here before him, he certainly has better connections in the game than any other former BRFC manager, which is not surprising as he did play for both Manchester City and Newcastle in the premiership. Yes, it’s a shame we did not get JCH, and we do not win most of our matches, when did we ever do that ?; as Joey said in his post match interview, it now gives somebody else the chance to step up. Does it have to be whether you like Joey or not though? I think nearly all the comments on here so far have been about style of play and results. I can’t speak for Percy but I want to judge him on performance and he is a great believer in that too. In my opinion we aren’t performing well or scrapping results so jury out but don’t think he should go now and I don’t see the club sacking him unless we are bottom 4 around Christmas. Which I hope we’re not!! Exactly. Peterhooper seems to be arguing against something I didn’t say. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 3, 2023 11:17:17 GMT
Lots of fans have been saying are recruitment is good , but is it that good when we flood the midfield, strengthen our defence but our forward line is short of two or three experienced strikers. Even with JCH we would have still been short of striker cover. Recruitment may be the best ever but it's pointless if JB can't get them to play, results don't lie and, unlike in the past, we can't really blame dodgy ref's decisions for losing/not winning games. We're now almost as poor, chances/goals wise, as we were when BG was dismissed. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2023 11:26:07 GMT
Lots of fans have been saying are recruitment is good , but is it that good when we flood the midfield, strengthen our defence but our forward line is short of two or three experienced strikers. Even with JCH we would have still been short of striker cover. Recruitment may be the best ever but it's pointless if JB can't get them to play, results don't lie and, unlike in the past, we can't really blame dodgy ref's decisions for losing/not winning games. We're now almost as poor, chances/goals wise, as we were when BG was dismissed. difference is these players are a million times better. Their talent is be8ng stiffled by a tactic that must even bore the attackers waiting for a ball. Many times yesterday the front 3 made runs only for the ball to be passed back that in the 2nd half they gave up. Only when we go down to the last ten minutes chasing a game the boring stuff goes out the window and the crowd is back on board.let the handbrake off from the beginning and see where it takes us |
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Post by scdave on Sept 3, 2023 11:49:15 GMT
There were a few times, admittedly not many,but when we have the ball in front of goal from 25 or 30 yards out, with defenders slow to close us down, why not at least have a pop?
How many goals did Boris or Penny etc get from rebounds from shots from Jocky, or Reecey?
The policy of recycling the ball wide may be valid if we can win the header from crosses, but I lost count of the number of times Thomas or Hunt got to the bye line, looked up and there was no one in the box, so we had to go backwards.
On the West stand there were constant shouts of "there is nobody there" when the ball was crossed in until JM came on.
Aarons two efforts came when he drifted inside. We have several analysts and backroom coaches but if we had a poll now of Aaron playing as a no 10 or out wide, I would expect it to be 90+ to say if he plays that's were he should be. We may not have a professional football upbringing but surely that many people can't be wrong?
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Post by oldie on Sept 3, 2023 11:58:04 GMT
It’s looking again like other than half season of luck (a formation he had no intention of playing and a Geordie he knew nothing about) joey may not actually be that great a manager. I know it will now be a Joey lovers vs hater thing but huge improvements needed between now and December to convince me he can get us out of this division (the right way). Are we even really playing entertaining football? Or living off a short lived past So you don't like Joey. Believe it or not Joey does not set out to or need to convince you about anything. Imo other than GF, he has done and is doing a lot better than most of all the others that have come here before him, he certainly has better connections in the game than any other former BRFC manager, which is not surprising as he did play for both Manchester City and Newcastle in the premiership. Yes, its a shame we did not get JCH, and we do not win most of our matches, when did we ever do that ?; as Joey said in his post match interview, it now gives somebody else the chance to step up. Is that sandpit deep? |
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