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Post by Feeling The Blues on Oct 25, 2023 16:26:59 GMT
If the manager can’t give an honest assessment of what we can all see we have to worry that he doesn’t have what it takes do any better than he is. We weren’t unfortunate not to win we were fortunate that we didn’t get tonked!
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Post by eric on Oct 25, 2023 17:12:24 GMT
If the manager can’t give an honest assessment of what we can all see we have to worry that he doesn’t have what it takes do any better than he is. We weren’t unfortunate not to win we were fortunate that we didn’t get tonked! Any different to most managers?
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 25, 2023 17:44:35 GMT
Were you even at the game? Bet i go to more home games than you If that's the case how can you suggest the players weren't trying in the second half, it looked to me most were given 100%. It was hardly a repeat performance of the Doncaster game under DC or Fleetwood game under BG where it was obvious the players had given up.
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Post by albaron on Oct 25, 2023 17:52:12 GMT
Were you even at the game? Bet i go to more home games than you Oh my God -- Is this is what its coming down to.
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Post by A Source (aka Angry Badger) on Oct 25, 2023 19:16:16 GMT
A non local mate of mine came to the game as a neutral. His opinion:- Knock it round a bit, absolutely no ideas or movement further up the pitch. He was happy that we didn't have a drum
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Post by eric on Oct 25, 2023 19:50:42 GMT
Bet i go to more home games than you Oh my God -- Is this is what it’s coming down to. My Dads tougher than your Dad !!!
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Post by Kipper on Oct 26, 2023 6:42:35 GMT
I fear Joey Barton’s style of play will not get Rovers promoted. There has to be a more robust approach as this fancy stuff is not getting results. All this possession stuff with few goals scored. UTG.
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Post by Marshy on Oct 26, 2023 8:00:07 GMT
I fear Joey Barton’s style of play will not get Rovers promoted. There has to be a more robust approach as this fancy stuff is not getting results. All this possession stuff with few goals scored. UTG. Come back cockring all is forgiven 🤪.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2023 16:53:10 GMT
Mick Jones who Barton loved to reference has phoned Steve Evans to say our goal should not have been allowed as Marquis came back from an offside position.
Barton Trump 0 - 1 Fat Weeble
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Post by bidefordgas on Oct 26, 2023 16:59:41 GMT
Mick Jones who Barton loved to reference has phoned Steve Evans to say our goal should not have been allowed as Marquis came back from an offside position. Barton Trump 0 - 1 Fat Weeble He was played on by their defender controlling the ball and then clearing it straight at Marquis. Offside does not come into play in that situation. The rules were clearly displayed on here a day or so ago.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2023 17:06:19 GMT
Mick Jones who Barton loved to reference has phoned Steve Evans to say our goal should not have been allowed as Marquis came back from an offside position. Barton Trump 0 - 1 Fat Weeble He was played on by their defender controlling the ball and then clearing it straight at Marquis. Offside does not come into play in that situation. The rules were clearly displayed on here a day or so ago. www.thecomet.net/sport/23881318.stevenage-boss-steve-evans-bristol-rovers-equaliser/
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Post by bravosierraseven on Oct 26, 2023 17:16:07 GMT
I just don't see how they reach that conclusion. Marquis is offside when Martin heads the ball up in the air, Marquis runs back onside without attempting to go for the ball, the defender gets the ball under control, Marquis turns and faces the defender who then kicks it straight at him. No wonder there is such confusion, every time they tinker with the rules they become less clear.
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Post by bidefordgas on Oct 26, 2023 17:55:17 GMT
Peter Walton ex Premier league ref and Northampton supporter has just been on having a gas and in his opinion the goal the other night was a goal. He confirmed their player had controlled the ball and therefore Marquis was not offside
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Post by devonwhite9 on Oct 26, 2023 18:03:55 GMT
Managers argue what they want to argue, he's banging on about how far offside he was when the ball was played forward. He's right, it's not even close, but the fact is he didn't touch the ball or interfere with play. He came back onside and the defender controlled it and played it against him. Therefore Evans' argument is pointless and he knows that
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Oct 26, 2023 18:40:33 GMT
Managers argue what they want to argue, he's banging on about how far offside he was when the ball was played forward. He's right, it's not even close, but the fact is he didn't touch the ball or interfere with play. He came back onside and the defender controlled it and played it against him. Therefore Evans' argument is pointless and he knows that He’d have a better argument claiming the handball.
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Post by faggotygas on Oct 27, 2023 8:43:44 GMT
No, once a player takes a controlled touch then everything resets. From Law 11 "A player in an offside position receiving the ball from an opponent who deliberately played* the ball, including by deliberate handball, is not considered to have gained an advantage, unless it was a deliberate save by any opponent. *‘Deliberate play’ (excluding deliberate handball) is when a player has control of the ball with the possibility of: passing the ball to a team-mate; gaining possession of the ball; or clearing the ball (e.g. by kicking or heading it) If the pass, attempt to gain possession or clearance by the player in control of the ball is inaccurate or unsuccessful, this does not negate the fact that the player ‘deliberately played’ the ball. The following criteria should be used, as appropriate, as indicators that a player was in control of the ball and, as a result, can be considered to have ‘deliberately played’ the ball: The ball travelled from distance and the player had a clear view of it The ball was not moving quickly The direction of the ball was not unexpected The player had time to coordinate their body movement, i.e. it was not a case of instinctive stretching or jumping, or a movement that achieved limited contact/control A ball moving on the ground is easier to play than a ball in the air" Spot on. Their player clearly controlled the ball by bringing it down and then blasting a clearance hitting Marquis on the hand at very close range. No way could he get out of the way and therefore was not handball or offside. Yeah, the onside was pretty clear, the handball was umpire's call I'd say
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