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Post by Somersetgas on Jan 1, 2024 22:09:58 GMT
I don’t think you’ve been to sleep………I have 🤣🤣 Seriously I don’t see what Martin brings, other than a lack of effort and attitude. Errr…….Goals? What did his goals bring today? A defeat. Attacking from the front could well of stopped the opposition scoring. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 1, 2024 22:12:02 GMT
On the flip side if he hadn't scored two goals it would have been a shocking performance and Brown wouldn't have almost made it 3-3 at the death.
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Post by bidefordgas on Jan 1, 2024 22:13:08 GMT
Chris Beardsley?! Oh come on ffs. Chris Beardsley was utter dogsh*t and didn't score goals. Martin looks like he could get almost 20 a season if starting regularly - easily 15. Some fans climbing overthemselves to sign JCH for 50 million and he ain't mobile either! Blokes a natural goalscorer, one of the highest ever goalscorers in a division we've barely a kicked a ball in in over a century and we're saying we'd happily let him go 😂 What next - Rovers fans starting a petition to get a manager reinstated?! Oh wait 🙈 😁 TBF that’s harsh on Beardsley, at least he ran, perhaps if Martin had defended from the front one of the goals might not of been conceded. You sir are either on the wind up or haven’t got a clue about what you are talking about. I would suggest it’s the latter. Comparing Chris Beardsley to a 17 cap Scottish international who has had a fine career at Championship level, further confirms you don’t know what you are talking about |
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Post by Somersetgas on Jan 1, 2024 22:14:33 GMT
I agree RD. Somersetgas is entitled to his opinion but I disagree with it totally. There is no point whatsoever in your targetman pressing up on his own however fit or unfit he is if there is no back up to prevent the pass. If the team want to high press then it has to be done as a unit. Martin has proved he is a top striker with the goals he has scored which have been all types and the fact that he is the Championships 8th top scorer of all time really shows a lack of knowledge by Somersetgas comparison to Chris Beardsley. Note nobody set the world alight at QPR last season. Martin has proved that if you set him up he will score goals- we have ten other players to set him up!! Again, what else did he do? Nothing, he wasn’t playing alongside anyone, so totally ineffective, strolling around picking up his wedge. No effort, no graft. Couldn’t give a toss about his scoring record, look at Derek O Riordans when he came here. |
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Post by Somersetgas on Jan 1, 2024 22:15:41 GMT
On the flip side if he hadn't scored two goals it would have been a shocking performance and Brown wouldn't have almost made it 3-3 at the death. But he didn’t, another bang average signing who has brought nothing, I’d transfer list him to. |
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Post by socrates on Jan 1, 2024 22:16:13 GMT
On the flip side if he hadn't scored two goals it would have been a shocking performance and Brown wouldn't have almost made it 3-3 at the death. And we would have lost against Charlton. |
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Post by eric on Jan 1, 2024 22:16:30 GMT
What did his goals bring today? A defeat. Attacking from the front could well of stopped the opposition scoring. We were awful in all areas of the pitch. If the midfield and the defenders did their jobs as well as Martin we’d have won that game by a distance. If Martin had Marquis’ fitness/pace he would be playing at the top end of the championship. If Marquis had Martin’s finishing ability he would also be playing at the top end of the championship. If you really want to bomb the only person who seems to be able to score regularly out of the club I’d be interested to know who we can sign. (Remember that Mbappe isn’t a free agent until the summer). |
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Post by eric on Jan 1, 2024 22:18:39 GMT
TBF that’s harsh on Beardsley, at least he ran, perhaps if Martin had defended from the front one of the goals might not of been conceded. You sir are either on the wind up or haven’t got a clue about what you are talking about. I would suggest it’s the latter. Comparing Chris Beardsley to a 17 cap Scottish international who has had a fine career at Championship level, further confirms you don’t know what you are talking about I’d give up. This is weirdest sequence of posts I’ve ever read 🤣 |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2024 22:18:41 GMT
On the flip side if he hadn't scored two goals it would have been a shocking performance and Brown wouldn't have almost made it 3-3 at the death. But he didn’t, another bang average signing who has brought nothing, I’d transfer list him to. For me he’s a good stop gap but we keep being told that we are a club looking to push on and go up. He shouldnt and wouldnt be first choice or even second choice for any of the sides near the top of the table on a consistent basis |
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Post by Somersetgas on Jan 1, 2024 22:19:12 GMT
TBF that’s harsh on Beardsley, at least he ran, perhaps if Martin had defended from the front one of the goals might not of been conceded. You sir are either on the wind up or haven’t got a clue about what you are talking about. I would suggest it’s the latter. Comparing Chris Beardsley to a 17 cap Scottish international who has had a fine career at Championship level, further confirms you don’t know what you are talking about No I’m not on the wind up, nothing grinds my gears more than seeing a player with a severe lack of effort and playing the dark arts and cheating, Collins with his diving this season drives me just as nuts, but at least he puts effort in. Oh when he played for Scotland they were like Brazil I guess. What was that guy we had in the non league season who was a full international, played for Gibraltar, again a simmilar standard to Scotland. |
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Post by Somersetgas on Jan 1, 2024 22:20:49 GMT
But he didn’t, another bang average signing who has brought nothing, I’d transfer list him to. For me he’s a good stop gap but we keep being told that we are a club looking to push on and go up. He shouldnt and wouldnt be first choice or even second choice for any of the sides near the top of the table on a consistent basis Thanks, and people say JCH is too old and slow …… |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2024 22:39:53 GMT
TBF that’s harsh on Beardsley, at least he ran, perhaps if Martin had defended from the front one of the goals might not of been conceded. You sir are either on the wind up or haven’t got a clue about what you are talking about. I would suggest it’s the latter. Comparing Chris Beardsley to a 17 cap Scottish international who has had a fine career at Championship level, further confirms you don’t know what you are talking about Comparing Beardsley and Martin, oh my days, I don’t know where to go on this one?!?! |
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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on Jan 1, 2024 22:59:21 GMT
If he playa surely its up to us to play to his strengths rather than worry about what he doesn't do. If you put balls into the box he'll score goals and if you get the ball into him he'll bring others into play. There's a very good reason he's scored a lot of goals at championship level.
Absolute no brainer for me
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Post by bathtubpirate on Jan 1, 2024 23:08:23 GMT
If he playa surely its up to us to play to his strengths rather than worry about what he doesn't do. If you put balls into the box he'll score goals and if you get the ball into him he'll bring others into play. There's a very good reason he's scored a lot of goals at championship level. Absolute no brainer for me Yep, same here. And isn't Clarke Harris a similar sort of striker anyway? If Martin is so easily getting braces it really shows how we don't need JCH |
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Post by Gasshole on Jan 2, 2024 1:51:20 GMT
Defo get CM signed before we lose him to Barca.
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Post by RD on Jan 2, 2024 6:21:50 GMT
Having now slept on it, I do see Somersets point.
Nothing annoys me more than a striker who scores goals.
He's got to go.
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Post by gasheadontour on Jan 2, 2024 8:08:01 GMT
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Post by DrFaustus on Jan 2, 2024 9:08:42 GMT
You sir are either on the wind up or haven’t got a clue about what you are talking about. I would suggest it’s the latter. Comparing Chris Beardsley to a 17 cap Scottish international who has had a fine career at Championship level, further confirms you don’t know what you are talking about No I’m not on the wind up, nothing grinds my gears more than seeing a player with a severe lack of effort and playing the dark arts and cheating, Collins with his diving this season drives me just as nuts, but at least he puts effort in. Oh when he played for Scotland they were like Brazil I guess. What was that guy we had in the non league season who was a full international, played for Gibraltar, again a simmilar standard to Scotland. Scotland are ranked 36th in the World and have again, qualified for the European Championship finals. Gibraltar are ranked 201st and have never qualified for any major tournament. You're being daft, SG. 🙂🏴 |
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Post by Smithy Gas on Jan 2, 2024 9:34:58 GMT
This debate has a touch of the Ronaldo at Utd last season vibe about it…
All he did there was score goals because he was of an age where he couldn’t really get about any more so the fans and press got annoyed and started slating him because he was “just” doing the hardest thing in football and look how that ended up for Utd!
Is he a long term solution? No.
Is he the only bloke sticking the ball in the net on a regular basis right now? Yes.
You can’t teach that and it’s baffling that you want to ditch a bloke like that. You keep him till the end of the season whilst planning a replacement for the long term and if he’s good enough you assess to keep him for another season surely?
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Post by stuart1974 on Jan 2, 2024 9:48:50 GMT
This debate has a touch of the Ronaldo at Utd last season vibe about it… All he did there was score goals because he was of an age where he couldn’t really get about any more so the fans and press got annoyed and started slating him because he was “just” doing the hardest thing in football and look how that ended up for Utd! Is he a long term solution? No. Is he the only bloke sticking the ball in the net on a regular basis right now? Yes. You can’t teach that and it’s baffling that you want to ditch a bloke like that. You keep him till the end of the season whilst planning a replacement for the long term and if he’s good enough you assess to keep him for another season surely? That may well be the sticking point. Extend to the end of the season is pretty much a 'no-brainer' imo, but he may feel he's earned longer. These goals could mean we face a bit of competition and have to act quickly. |
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