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Post by pirate on Jan 11, 2024 14:59:41 GMT
A club like ours should be looking at how smart clubs operate in the transfer market and get some tips. I'd personally rather we were more efficient and self sustainable in the market, building a squad capable of challenging at the right end every season, which is why potential sell-on value is important to a club like ours losing money hand over fist as It allows a certain percentage of fees generated to be reinvested back in the squad. During the previous five years to their £70m stadium getting built, Brentford had sold players for a combined value of £150m, and up to 2021 the average age at which players were signed at in total since the 14/15 season averaged out to 23-years-old. “Recruitment is the bread and butter of Brentford because we have one of the lowest revenues in the league. We need to make the business sustainable by buying cheap and selling expensive, which is what we’ve done over the last few years. “The key is being able to identify undervalued talent in the market, develop them, and then sell them on for profit, gradually building more value into the squad and gradually increasing the level of the squad” said their DoF at the time. Im not necessarily saying we can replicate what Brentford have achieved, but what we can do is be smarter and more efficient, rather than the 'boom and bust' approach. It still doesn't make any difference to us if we develop players or if the owners spend £m's buying promotion. It's their own money and if they think the boom & bust approach is best then there's not a lot we can do about it. MT's approach has always been to develop his own players so it'll be interesting to see our approach changes in the next couple of windows. There is nothing to suggest the new owners have the means to "spend £m's buying promotion". |
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Post by amgas on Jan 11, 2024 15:00:34 GMT
Did he have any choice other than doing that at Exeter ?
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 11, 2024 15:10:57 GMT
Did have any choice other than doing that at Exeter ? MT said that he intended doing it at Rotherham as well. It would be odd if he now decided that he didn't want to develop any of our own players. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 11, 2024 15:13:58 GMT
It still doesn't make any difference to us if we develop players or if the owners spend £m's buying promotion. It's their own money and if they think the boom & bust approach is best then there's not a lot we can do about it. MT's approach has always been to develop his own players so it'll be interesting to see our approach changes in the next couple of windows. There is nothing to suggest the new owners have the means to "spend £m's buying promotion". That's not the point, I was merely saying it makes no difference to us as fans if the owners spend a fortune on JCH or less on a younger striker they can then sell at a profit if he develops. |
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Post by Quarters on Jan 11, 2024 15:40:11 GMT
There is nothing to suggest the new owners have the means to "spend £m's buying promotion". That's not the point, I was merely saying it makes no difference to us as fans if the owners spend a fortune on JCH or less on a younger striker they can then sell at a profit if he develops. Tell that to the fans of clubs that have tried boom or bust and then failed. I would worry if we were overspending and risking it all. Might not be much I can do about it but I would still be concerned. |
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Post by pirate on Jan 13, 2024 17:50:24 GMT
That's not new though is it? Isn't that word for word what he said when he was last asked, a couple of weeks ago? Apologies if I've misunderstood your post. I just find it a bit strange that at that stage there were no talks regarding an extension. That was the latest report, so I wonder if things have progressed now and how seriously we want to keep him? 🤔 Matt Taylor asked after Barnsley for an update on contract extension "I'm doing everything I can to get the club to make the right decision in relation to that" |
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Post by RD on Jan 13, 2024 18:30:54 GMT
I just find it a bit strange that at that stage there were no talks regarding an extension. That was the latest report, so I wonder if things have progressed now and how seriously we want to keep him? 🤔 Matt Taylor asked after Barnsley for an update on contract extension "I'm doing everything I can to get the club to make the right decision in relation to that" That's alarming. That insinuates Taylor (understandably) wants him, but the board aren't sold. Very, very concerning and you can only arrive at the logical conclusion we can't afford him 🤷♂️ As surely you back your (new) man. Worrying. |
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Post by oldie on Jan 13, 2024 19:12:17 GMT
🤔 Matt Taylor asked after Barnsley for an update on contract extension "I'm doing everything I can to get the club to make the right decision in relation to that" That's alarming. That insinuates Taylor (understandably) wants him, but the board aren't sold. Very, very concerning and you can only arrive at the logical conclusion we can't afford him 🤷♂️ As surely you back your (new) man. Worrying. That looks a distinct possibility. Alternatively it may well be that Martin's wage demands exceed a pay structure they have or wish to impose. To break it significantly without, at this players age, a chance of a return of any note even in the medium term, seems understandable. Especially with all the other farces going on that they inherited. |
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Post by lastminutewinner on Jan 13, 2024 19:18:44 GMT
That's alarming. That insinuates Taylor (understandably) wants him, but the board aren't sold. Very, very concerning and you can only arrive at the logical conclusion we can't afford him 🤷♂️ As surely you back your (new) man. Worrying. That looks a distinct possibility. Alternatively it may well be that Martin's wage demands exceed a pay structure they have or wish to impose. To break it significantly without, at this players age, a chance of a return of any note even in the medium term, seems understandable. Especially with all the other farces going on that they inherited. Maybe they are waiting until they know the outcome of the Norwich match for that extra cash injection. Worrying if we are relying on that to tie down a 35YO though |
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Post by oldie on Jan 13, 2024 19:31:10 GMT
That looks a distinct possibility. Alternatively it may well be that Martin's wage demands exceed a pay structure they have or wish to impose. To break it significantly without, at this players age, a chance of a return of any note even in the medium term, seems understandable. Especially with all the other farces going on that they inherited. Maybe they are waiting until they know the outcome of the Norwich match for that extra cash injection. Worrying if we are relying on that to tie down a 35YO though If he is being realistic with his wage demands, maybe. If he is not, then not worrying at all. In fact the opposite. How much cash are we going to burn this year? |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 13, 2024 20:05:55 GMT
Maybe they are waiting until they know the outcome of the Norwich match for that extra cash injection. Worrying if we are relying on that to tie down a 35YO though If he is being realistic with his wage demands, maybe. If he is not, then not worrying at all. In fact the opposite. How much cash are we going to burn this year? Still not sure what clubs would be desperate to sign a 35 year old when not many showed any interest in the last window. |
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Post by gasheadontour on Jan 13, 2024 20:29:09 GMT
Another fantastic goal today. Great movement and finish.
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Jan 13, 2024 20:56:33 GMT
Another thing to consider is the JCH situation. He is clear that he wants to move closer to Bristol. Maybe the board are torn between going back in for JCH or going for Martin? Would be Martin for me on a free. I agree that it’s alarming, if only for the reason that Taylor doesn’t seem to have anything like the final say in this.
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Jan 13, 2024 20:57:28 GMT
Another fantastic goal today. Great movement and finish. We were right behind the goal - was a brilliant finish. I was impressed with his link play today as well. |
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Post by oldie on Jan 13, 2024 21:13:46 GMT
If he is being realistic with his wage demands, maybe. If he is not, then not worrying at all. In fact the opposite. How much cash are we going to burn this year? Still not sure what clubs would be desperate to sign a 35 year old when not many showed any interest in the last window. Possibly So hopefully his wage demands reflect that |
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Post by socrates on Jan 13, 2024 21:22:55 GMT
Has the best mpg in league 1 with a goal every 119 minutes.
Shame the rest couldn’t hit a cows arse with a banjo really.
If we don’t sign him on again and sign a flop we could really go in to free fall.
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Post by chewbacca on Jan 13, 2024 21:36:11 GMT
Pay Chris Martin Jevani Brown’s wages.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 13, 2024 22:39:08 GMT
Another thing to consider is the JCH situation. He is clear that he wants to move closer to Bristol. Maybe the board are torn between going back in for JCH or going for Martin? Would be Martin for me on a free. I agree that it’s alarming, if only for the reason that Taylor doesn’t seem to have anything like the final say in this. Where's it clear JCH wants to move closer to Bristol, all we know is his father lives here, there's nothing to say a 29 year old man wants to move back to live near his dad? Although surely earning potential £1m+ from a tie at Liverpool will change our spending in this window. Perhaps every is on hold until the result of Wednesday's game is known. |
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Post by chewbacca on Jan 13, 2024 22:53:49 GMT
Personally speaking I don’t think Rovers shouldn’t really push the boat out this window. We’re not going up, we’re not going down, unless someone falls into our lap I still think waiting for the summer and ensuring a proper recruitment and scouting network is in place for Taylor and whatever comes after him is most important.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Jan 13, 2024 23:08:11 GMT
Another thing to consider is the JCH situation. He is clear that he wants to move closer to Bristol. Maybe the board are torn between going back in for JCH or going for Martin? Would be Martin for me on a free. I agree that it’s alarming, if only for the reason that Taylor doesn’t seem to have anything like the final say in this. Where's it clear JCH wants to move closer to Bristol, all we know is his father lives here, there's nothing to say a 29 year old man wants to move back to live near his dad? Although surely earning potential £1m+ from a tie at Liverpool will change our spending in this window. Perhaps every is on hold until the result of Wednesday's game is known. It’s presumptuous that we will get to spend the cup money on players. It’s more likely it’ll pay back debt or infrastructure works, imo. |
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