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Post by yattongas on Jan 14, 2024 13:07:22 GMT
Cox really should have done better with their winner. |
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Post by Quarters on Jan 14, 2024 13:12:20 GMT
Cox really should have done better with their winner. In what way? Given the comments on their first goal how would our goal be reviewed if it was scored against us? As it was for us the consensus is that it was a great finish. |
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Post by biggles on Jan 14, 2024 13:13:12 GMT
don't forget the great don megson!
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 14, 2024 13:16:39 GMT
Have you ever played football? How could Grant trying head the ball away from his own goal, react quicker to a striker who was trying to head it into our goal, as momentum was taking them in opposite directions.
Any goalie is just going to be a bystander in that situation.
The goal was down to Crama and Vale not cutting out the cross and Cole getting lucky with the ball coming straight back to him off the post.
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Post by stuart1974 on Jan 14, 2024 13:31:13 GMT
Cox really should have done better with their winner. In what way? Given the comments on their first goal how would our goal be reviewed if it was scored against us? As it was for us the consensus is that it was a great finish. Two defenders too close leaving their's unmarked. Great finish, I don't think the keeper could have done much about either goal. |
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Post by gasmania on Jan 14, 2024 13:31:49 GMT
None of the midfielders near enough to close their assisting player down for the second. Vale then just leaves the eventual goal scorer to go and do it rather than Connolly who is running back across that way. Decent finish in the end but poor from us.
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Post by rovers78 on Jan 14, 2024 14:25:52 GMT
Sorry, are you saying you think we are the best side you’ve seen so are the best side in the league this season?? Come on now let’s not be silly OTT here The reason we’ve looked good with those players fit is because they are good for the level. However the reason they came here is because we are paying them very well as we are very reliant on them, when in reality there’s no way in hell Hunt Wilson Friend could ever consistently play three games a week throughout the season, especially once we got to October onward. We can thank Joey for that 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 Next season maybe yes but it’s yet another rebuild job with probably another 15 out and 15 in type scenario. At least we have an actual Grown up in charge to do it this time tho. That's exactly what I'm saying. Name me one side who have absolutely battered us off the park this season. You won't find one. When we have our first 11 out there we are more than a match for anyone. We have played the top 6 teams and been the better team against them in defeats against Oxford, barnsley and derby. Then we have beat Bolton and Portsmouth. The only side I thought may have been as good if not slightly better was posh but that's debatable and is a game we could of won. Well burton, blackpool, Wycombe (before 90 mins), Posh all beat us comfortable. Carlisle we were fortunate against. Oxford missed some sitters to win by more. So there’s a few. Any club in any league can harp back to individual games as ‘what ifs’ that’s sort of the beauty of league football though. You have to find ways to win. There’s no point looking ‘the best’ if you can’t win games. Can’t consistently harp on about the odd games here and there with a ‘it’s not fair’ attitude. We’ve won 9 of 25 games, whatever way you want to spin it, that is not ‘best team in the league’ stats. No way whatsoever. Pompey went 3 months unbeaten. That’s best team in the league stats and mentality. |
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Post by wallywalters on Jan 14, 2024 14:41:39 GMT
That's exactly what I'm saying. Name me one side who have absolutely battered us off the park this season. You won't find one. When we have our first 11 out there we are more than a match for anyone. We have played the top 6 teams and been the better team against them in defeats against Oxford, barnsley and derby. Then we have beat Bolton and Portsmouth. The only side I thought may have been as good if not slightly better was posh but that's debatable and is a game we could of won. Well burton, blackpool, Wycombe (before 90 mins), Posh all beat us comfortable. Carlisle we were fortunate against. Oxford missed some sitters to win by more. So there’s a few. Any club in any league can harp back to individual games as ‘what ifs’ that’s sort of the beauty of league football though. You have to find ways to win. There’s no point looking ‘the best’ if you can’t win games. Can’t consistently harp on about the odd games here and there with a ‘it’s not fair’ attitude. We’ve won 9 of 25 games, whatever way you want to spin it, that is not ‘best team in the league’ stats. No way whatsoever. Pompey went 3 months unbeaten. That’s best team in the league stats and mentality. Game of opinions but there is no way posh beat us comfortably imo. We started the game fantastic went behind to a long shot. Then second half after their second we were much the better side and had 2 or 3 guilt edged opportunities and should of took a point. Same with Oxford we were absolutely superb and deserved minimum a draw. If you can tell me a side that we've played this season and thought blimey they are streets ahead of us or very very good il concede.😃. But you won't be able to. It's a very poor division this year and I stand by my comment that when all 11 are fit we are the best team I've seen. But that's not football we are soft and injury prone and for that reason over 46 games we won't be the best team in the league. Far from it. |
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Jan 14, 2024 14:51:21 GMT
In what way? Given the comments on their first goal how would our goal be reviewed if it was scored against us? As it was for us the consensus is that it was a great finish. Two defenders too close leaving their's unmarked. Great finish, I don't think the keeper could have done much about either goal. I think that the second goal, whilst you could argue Vale was beaten a bit too easily, is all about the game being very stretched at that point and maybe we were a bit naive and lost our shape as a team? Definitely don’t see it as a keeper error, and Cox was unlucky with the first goal, when he made a great save. Another day that goes out for a corner instead of hitting the post. |
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Post by bidefordgas on Jan 14, 2024 14:54:37 GMT
Cox really should have done better with their winner. You are surely joking! |
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Post by holmesgas1 on Jan 14, 2024 15:00:00 GMT
Watching the extended highlights back there wasn't a lot between the teams, in fact we had decent chances to make it 2-1 just before Barnsley got the winner. Both Barnsley goals came as we looked weak down our left side, we desperately need Friend to get fit, and stay fit, or an experienced replacement to be signed, as I doubt Gordon is the answer this season and Grant always seems to be needed as a CB. McCormick looked to have a decent game but Brown a wasteful one, it's hard to see what MT sees in him over JM & AC. The difference was the goal keeper and the attack. They scored more from less chances. There were at least two goal mouth scrambles in their box, their goal keeper reacted quicker than anyone else. When Cole hot the post, it looked like we had already conceded the goal in our heads and turned off. Both Cox and Grant. The difference between being in top 6 and mid table in this league is pretty much down to very fine margins and a little bit of luck. We have benefitted from those fine margins and luck this season and we have lost to them. Blackpool and Barnsley, neither team played us off the pitch and both away commentators applauded they way we played and that we were one of the best teams this season to visit. We are nearly there, just not quite there. We were right behind the goal for Barnsley’s first and there is no way you can blame Cox. He made a good save to push it on to the post and was unlucky that it rebounded back across the goal. Do agree with you that Grant and others could have reacted quicker. Grant was also too weak on the initial contact, but still don’t see him as a centre half. Agree with you that we are close and should have taken a point. |
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Post by yattongas on Jan 14, 2024 15:12:30 GMT
Cox really should have done better with their winner. You are surely joking! No . He should have stepped out a few paces and narrowed the angle. Got beaten by a pass into net. |
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Post by richhertford on Jan 14, 2024 15:17:11 GMT
Hello. An Optimistic fan here. 😂 A winning run now can put us in a challenging position. Will it be tough. Yes. Is it possible? Yes. Has the club come from mid-table and been promoted? Yes. It’s not over. Never stop dreaming gasheads. I might be a dreamer but I know I’m not the only one. I share your optimism, 21 matches to go, 12 at home,9 away, with the right recruitment in this transfer window, I still think we can mount a challenge in the second half of the season. Good stuff. Ever hopeful. I doubt the dressing room have a different view. I’m sure Matt will externally calm our ambitions whilst aiming high. Let’s see what January brings. |
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Post by gasify on Jan 14, 2024 15:24:54 GMT
No . He should have stepped out a few paces and narrowed the angle. Got beaten by a pass into net. Absolutely was in the wrong place. Maybe he was too conscious that he has been beaten at the near post a few times but showed too much of the far corner to their player. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 14, 2024 15:26:18 GMT
Cox really should have done better with their winner. You are surely joking! If we had a goalie who could stop shots like that he wouldn't be here for long anyway! |
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Post by gasify on Jan 14, 2024 15:30:51 GMT
The highlights clearly shows Cox for the second was a little rooted to the spot. He should have been stepping forward to narrow the angle.
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Post by yattongas on Jan 14, 2024 15:36:26 GMT
Thanks to those that backed me up…… thought for a bit I was the only one who could see he should have done better with the winner.
Played footy at a decent level and managed and I’d be disappointed with my keeper in that circumstance.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 14, 2024 16:12:07 GMT
Thanks to those that backed me up…… thought for a bit I was the only one who could see he should have done better with the winner. Played footy at a decent level and managed and I’d be disappointed with my keeper in that circumstance. Unless you played at league level that sounds nonsense as no non league goalie is saving that shot. The far bigger concern is why he was completely unmarked in our penalty area. Collins would get slaughtered on here if he didn't score from a similar chance. |
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Post by dudelebowski on Jan 14, 2024 16:15:12 GMT
Defence all at see for the winner, going to the ball and leaving your man wide open for a low hard shot across goal. Nothing a keeper can do there.
Basically did what Thomas should’ve done on the stroke of half time, getting the shot away with conviction with the goal at his mercy. Instead of tw@tting about trying to get it onto another boot.
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Post by yattongas on Jan 14, 2024 16:15:19 GMT
Thanks to those that backed me up…… thought for a bit I was the only one who could see he should have done better with the winner. Played footy at a decent level and managed and I’d be disappointed with my keeper in that circumstance. Unless you played at league level that sounds nonsense as no non league goalie is saving that shot. The far bigger concern is why he was completely unmarked in our penalty area. Collins would get slaughtered on here if he didn't score from a similar chance. 🥱 |
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