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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 14, 2024 17:14:04 GMT
Unless you played at league level that sounds nonsense as no non league goalie is saving that shot. The far bigger concern is why he was completely unmarked in our penalty area. Collins would get slaughtered on here if he didn't score from a similar chance. 🥱 Gary Neville just said on Sky Sports "no goal stops those" after Rashford scored from a virtually identical position. |
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Post by yattongas on Jan 14, 2024 17:22:08 GMT
Gary Neville just said on Sky Sports "no goal stops those" after Rashford scored from a virtually identical position. Topper , you can keep on as much as you like but you won’t change my opinion. Ok ? |
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Post by gashead79 on Jan 14, 2024 17:35:31 GMT
Sorry, are you saying you think we are the best side you’ve seen so are the best side in the league this season?? Come on now let’s not be silly OTT here The reason we’ve looked good with those players fit is because they are good for the level. However the reason they came here is because we are paying them very well as we are very reliant on them, when in reality there’s no way in hell Hunt Wilson Friend could ever consistently play three games a week throughout the season, especially once we got to October onward. We can thank Joey for that 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 Next season maybe yes but it’s yet another rebuild job with probably another 15 out and 15 in type scenario. At least we have an actual Grown up in charge to do it this time tho. That's exactly what I'm saying. Name me one side who have absolutely battered us off the park this season. You won't find one. When we have our first 11 out there we are more than a match for anyone. We have played the top 6 teams and been the better team against them in defeats against Oxford, barnsley and derby. Then we have beat Bolton and Portsmouth. The only side I thought may have been as good if not slightly better was posh but that's debatable and is a game we could of won. Cambridge and Burton destroyed us. |
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Post by gulfofaden on Jan 14, 2024 17:43:30 GMT
That's exactly what I'm saying. Name me one side who have absolutely battered us off the park this season. You won't find one. When we have our first 11 out there we are more than a match for anyone. We have played the top 6 teams and been the better team against them in defeats against Oxford, barnsley and derby. Then we have beat Bolton and Portsmouth. The only side I thought may have been as good if not slightly better was posh but that's debatable and is a game we could of won. Well burton, blackpool, Wycombe (before 90 mins), Posh all beat us comfortable. Carlisle we were fortunate against. Oxford missed some sitters to win by more. So there’s a few. Any club in any league can harp back to individual games as ‘what ifs’ that’s sort of the beauty of league football though. You have to find ways to win. There’s no point looking ‘the best’ if you can’t win games. Can’t consistently harp on about the odd games here and there with a ‘it’s not fair’ attitude. We’ve won 9 of 25 games, whatever way you want to spin it, that is not ‘best team in the league’ stats. No way whatsoever. Pompey went 3 months unbeaten. That’s best team in the league stats and mentality. Completely agree with this. Most teams in this league will have periods they dominate games. Results business. Although you really will only know at the end of the season. I think we are well positioned to have a very good season next year. We are refining the squad bit by bit and another 2 windows might see us with a formidable team. |
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Post by gasify on Jan 14, 2024 17:58:48 GMT
That's exactly what I'm saying. Name me one side who have absolutely battered us off the park this season. You won't find one. When we have our first 11 out there we are more than a match for anyone. We have played the top 6 teams and been the better team against them in defeats against Oxford, barnsley and derby. Then we have beat Bolton and Portsmouth. The only side I thought may have been as good if not slightly better was posh but that's debatable and is a game we could of won. Cambridge and Burton destroyed us. And Wycombe. |
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Post by gasify on Jan 14, 2024 18:03:01 GMT
Defence all at see for the winner, going to the ball and leaving your man wide open for a low hard shot across goal. Nothing a keeper can do there. Basically did what Thomas should’ve done on the stroke of half time, getting the shot away with conviction with the goal at his mercy. Instead of tw@tting about trying to get it onto another boot. The issue with Thomas was that he got it onto his left with only the keeper to beat and then basically passed it back to him. If you look at the two side by side. Thomas also had quite a bit of the corner of the goal to aim at. Frustratingly, he just hasn't got the end product. Which is why he is in league 1, rather than the Premiership. |
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Post by wallywalters on Jan 14, 2024 18:12:42 GMT
Cambridge and Burton destroyed us. And Wycombe. Burton beat us 4-1. If you watched that game we were the better side right up until woods got sent off then we succumbed to 2 late goals when going for it with 10 men. Weren't battered by the much better side at all we had more shots and possession. Cambridge we lost 2-0 and came up against our old nemesis the low block sides we just couldn't at the time break down. We had more possession. We weren't battered off the park by a far superior team at all. Wycombe we lost 3-2 and we were woeful after a heavy period of fixtures. We weren't battered off the park by a far superior team at all and we should of got a point if jevani brown had put away the easy chance at the end. I'm still waiting to be told a team we have played this season who have absolutely battered us and we have walked away feeling fair play there a great side. Reason. There isn't one. It's an awful league this year. |
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Post by stevek192 on Jan 14, 2024 20:11:52 GMT
Those who have played in goal i would be very interested how good you were to think Cox should save that. The ball came from the other side and was passed across leaving their winger clear to shoot. I played hundreds of games in goal and no way whatsoever was he going to get in a position to save that shot. in fact he has let in very few goals that you could blame him for. To those who think otherwise try watching a few other games and see how many keepers manage to save shots from a similar position and being passed across from left to right.
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Post by gasify on Jan 14, 2024 20:40:04 GMT
Burton beat us 4-1. If you watched that game we were the better side right up until woods got sent off then we succumbed to 2 late goals when going for it with 10 men. Weren't battered by the much better side at all we had more shots and possession. Cambridge we lost 2-0 and came up against our old nemesis the low block sides we just couldn't at the time break down. We had more possession. We weren't battered off the park by a far superior team at all. Wycombe we lost 3-2 and we were woeful after a heavy period of fixtures. We weren't battered off the park by a far superior team at all and we should of got a point if jevani brown had put away the easy chance at the end. I'm still waiting to be told a team we have played this season who have absolutely battered us and we have walked away feeling fair play there a great side. Reason. There isn't one. It's an awful league this year. Wycombe bullied us off the park up until they went down to 10. You can't say that our result at Burton was impacted by a sending off and then in the same sentence not recognise that the reason we nearly got a draw against Wycombe was that they went down to 10. I thought the first 15 to 20 mins on Saturday, Barnsley showed the size of the gulf between the two squads then they backed off a little. Controversially, I thought we rode our luck to get the win at Bolton. |
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Post by yetigas on Jan 14, 2024 21:02:49 GMT
Cox really should have done better with their winner. Blaming a goalkeeper alone for goals like that misses the main point which is why the goalscorer had about 10 minutes to line up his shot! Very poor defending, but not by Cox. |
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Post by yattongas on Jan 14, 2024 21:09:55 GMT
Cox really should have done better with their winner. Blaming a goalkeeper alone for goals like that misses the main point which is why the goalscorer had about 10 minutes to line up his shot! Very poor defending, but not by Cox. I didn’t blame him alone , I just said he could have done better. |
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Post by tbonegas on Jan 14, 2024 21:19:57 GMT
Thanks to those that backed me up…… thought for a bit I was the only one who could see he should have done better with the winner. Played footy at a decent level and managed and I’d be disappointed with my keeper in that circumstance. He should have done better with the first as well. That header should have been turned around the post. |
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Post by yetigas on Jan 14, 2024 21:30:16 GMT
Thanks to those that backed me up…… thought for a bit I was the only one who could see he should have done better with the winner. Played footy at a decent level and managed and I’d be disappointed with my keeper in that circumstance. He should have done better with the first as well. That header should have been turned around the post. Really? It he had saved that he would be in the Gordon Banks category! |
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Post by gashead79 on Jan 15, 2024 10:25:29 GMT
Burton beat us 4-1. If you watched that game we were the better side right up until woods got sent off then we succumbed to 2 late goals when going for it with 10 men. Weren't battered by the much better side at all we had more shots and possession. Cambridge we lost 2-0 and came up against our old nemesis the low block sides we just couldn't at the time break down. We had more possession. We weren't battered off the park by a far superior team at all. Wycombe we lost 3-2 and we were woeful after a heavy period of fixtures. We weren't battered off the park by a far superior team at all and we should of got a point if jevani brown had put away the easy chance at the end. I'm still waiting to be told a team we have played this season who have absolutely battered us and we have walked away feeling fair play there a great side. Reason. There isn't one. It's an awful league this year. You obviously have your definition and that's fine. The Cambridge game in particular..everything we tried, they shut out rendering us useless. They carved us open pretty much at will with simple diagonal balls to pacy front runners. Our possession that day was the usual tap around at the back and harmless sideways passing in front of 2 banks of 4. If yiu are trying to find an example of us getting dominated by a man City type performance, then sure, there isn't one. But, that's not required to teach is a lesson in how to win a game! I do actually agree with yiu in that we are a good side. Problem is we only show that in extremely short spells and ALWAYS give the opposition chances to score. |
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Post by stevek192 on Jan 15, 2024 10:40:19 GMT
Burton beat us 4-1. If you watched that game we were the better side right up until woods got sent off then we succumbed to 2 late goals when going for it with 10 men. Weren't battered by the much better side at all we had more shots and possession. Cambridge we lost 2-0 and came up against our old nemesis the low block sides we just couldn't at the time break down. We had more possession. We weren't battered off the park by a far superior team at all. Wycombe we lost 3-2 and we were woeful after a heavy period of fixtures. We weren't battered off the park by a far superior team at all and we should of got a point if jevani brown had put away the easy chance at the end. I'm still waiting to be told a team we have played this season who have absolutely battered us and we have walked away feeling fair play there a great side. Reason. There isn't one. It's an awful league this year. Wycombe bullied us off the park up until they went down to 10. You can't say that our result at Burton was impacted by a sending off and then in the same sentence not recognise that the reason we nearly got a draw against Wycombe was that they went down to 10. I thought the first 15 to 20 mins on Saturday, Barnsley showed the size of the gulf between the two squads then they backed off a little. Controversially, I thought we rode our luck to get the win at Bolton. |
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Post by stevek192 on Jan 15, 2024 10:47:34 GMT
Gasify, I think you are being a bit too much the other way with your post against us. No way on Saturday was there a gulf between the two sides. All home teams except us probably tend to start on the front foot and that was the case Saturday however that balanced out after 20 minutes and what was 70% possession for Barnsley ended up pretty well 50% by the end of the game with us having six or 7 clear opportunities. Even the home commentators were praising us for the way we played! We were the better side by a mile and had we scored one of the numerous good chances we had I am sure we would have gone on to win by 2 or 3.
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Post by tbonegas on Jan 15, 2024 10:53:02 GMT
He should have done better with the first as well. That header should have been turned around the post. Really? It he had saved that he would be in the Gordon Banks category! Not really. It was a run of the mill save. He should have turned it around the post. Keepers make those saves week in week out. |
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Post by Marshy on Jan 15, 2024 11:13:17 GMT
A goalkeeper will win you some games of which you probably should have lost with an outstanding performance, this tbh is something that I can’t remember seeing one time this season with Cox?
There’s something not quite right about him in my opinion.
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Post by socrates on Jan 15, 2024 13:07:33 GMT
Cox really should have done better with their winner. Said at the time he was about a yard too close to his near post and also too far back. One of the worst keepers we’ve had in my time supporting the Rovers. Thing is we’re not clinical at the other end too so when you’ve got to score 2 goals a game to get anything most of the time cos your keeper doesn’t make saves and you’re not scoring you’ll never be above mid table. And that’s where we are. |
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Post by socrates on Jan 15, 2024 13:10:02 GMT
Defence all at see for the winner, going to the ball and leaving your man wide open for a low hard shot across goal. Nothing a keeper can do there. Basically did what Thomas should’ve done on the stroke of half time, getting the shot away with conviction with the goal at his mercy. Instead of tw@tting about trying to get it onto another boot. The issue with Thomas was that he got it onto his left with only the keeper to beat and then basically passed it back to him. If you look at the two side by side. Thomas also had quite a bit of the corner of the goal to aim at. Frustratingly, he just hasn't got the end product. Which is why he is in league 1, rather than the Premiership. Reminds me of Bodin for us except Bodin could finish. |
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