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Post by gashead79 on Feb 18, 2024 22:35:07 GMT
I'd think that everyone is behind the new manager and wants him to succeed. It would be odd not to want this.
Commenting on how sh** we are and the recurring issues is another matter, and it's fine to have debatable opinions on that imo.
This will continue until he moves on, which he will, and perhaps gaschat will remain and rich's bus will be an antique.
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Post by Qatar Gas on Feb 19, 2024 5:07:44 GMT
I'm fully behind MT and very keen to see what happens in the summer.
We have been decimated with injuries and suspensions recently so you have to cut him some slack. Our best eleven when all fit is a decent team. Just look at those results at Bolton and Portsmouth.
What amazes me is that those who are out of contract this summer putting very little effort into getting a new deal. Surely you don't inform out of contract players they are surplus to requirements until after the season has finished? Or at the earliest when you are safe from the drop and have nothing to play for.
If signing Conteh was a direction of where the club want to go with recruitment then I am excited for the future. Yes you need experience as well but having so many players who cannot play more than 20 games a season was always going to come back to bite us. Grant Ward is the one exception I would make.
Martin is a classic example of the experience you need in a squad.
Unfortunately, I cant see us being able to move anyone on who still has a contract beyond this summer. Not unless we want to loan them out whilst still paying a majority of their wages.
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Post by gasify on Feb 19, 2024 7:35:51 GMT
Don't know what everyone getting so excited about. JB was sacked early imo and people love to hate him for non football reason, so be it. MT is never getting the sacked at this point and will be given the summer... But I don't know what sort of rebuild he will get, the ownership don't fill me with confidence. Thing is, you either buy into the idea that JB got this club relegated or you buy into the idea that Garner was sacked too late. Sacking JB has been the most decisive thing the new owners have actually done. When all are saying they don't have a strategy or how to run a football club, they made a decision and stood by it. They should be congratulated that they made such a decision with the view a new manager would have time to assess the situation before the January window. Now, the interesting bit is that we didn't seem to do much business in January. Conteh was a coup in my opinion, what's he played for us something like 6 games and already with him suspended you can see what is missing in the middle of the park when he is not around. My theory is that MT and the owners have had a discussion around next seasons budget already. My guess is that they have said what ever can be saved this season can be used next season. Thus it has been in MT interest to move people out and to bring in cheaper replacements. MT probably thought to himself we are a mid table side, I can guide us to mid table and then get in the type of players I want over the summer when there is more value in the market. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2024 8:34:27 GMT
Page 14 bar a couple of posters has seen a return of the Barton Supporters Club in full forces 😂👏 If we had Pep or Klopp in charge these lads would still be anti, now led by Hooper, Betty must have been busy this weekend! I don’t need to mention the couple of other and not aimed at you 79. I take deep joy MT isn’t being sacked and you have to put up with him, simple choice lads, get behind or continue to waste copious amounts of hours bashing him on here, and that includes people like me, RD and Gasdust loving every minute of it! We’ve Got Our Rovers Back 👍 “We’ve Got Our Rovers Back” - hilarious what are you on.? A group of under achieving players with many that can’t be ars*d, a team with loan players that are only interested in game time and the current owners where the ‘jury’ is clearly still out, this coupled with a Manager who’s blaming everyone else despite some obscure team selections & substitutions - yeah we’ve got our Rovers back alright. You’re a wind up merchant fella - just taking the p*ss - or trying to. Yes I enjoy the wind up with the Barton Supporters Club, I mean I just put the rod 🎣 out and his presidents of it are drop in the bag. It’s not like the old days when I needed a trawler to pull them, some gracefully just disappeared, some admitted after his breakdown which carried onto Twitter we are better off with out him, a few want Taylor to fail and enjoy us losing. But what I am right on is We Have Our Rovers Back……….We now have a manager who represents our club and any Young Pirate can look up to. Calling your own players idiots, people publicly a Fat Weeble, all of it, any parent shouldn’t be worried about letting their child here our manager. Portsmouth, Bolton, Oxford, Stevenage, it’s clear he can manage against top sides and managers beating all of them. What is clear as well is we have a weak squad, they can’t do the dirty against Wycombe, Fleetwood, Burton, they are easily bullied………give him his own window, simply Blueridge, why wouldn’t you give him a transfer window, you gave Barton the Marcus Stewart charity match to bump into George Friend and give him a deal? Next sesaon you will see the FULL We Have Our Rovers back, I’m convinced we won’t be seeing a points return of 1.04 PPG in a calendar year like the previous manager at this level. Keep posting The BSC, the petition has staled, you might get him back in another lifetime 👍 |
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Post by blueridge on Feb 19, 2024 10:32:48 GMT
Firstly, I’m not a Barton supporter and imo the Club were right to terminate his contract. Whilst he was Rovers manager I supported him - I also supported the likes of Graydon who I disliked immensely ( I won’t go into why), Atkins, Garner and other hapless managers we’ve had in the past. I’ve taken the rough with the smooth wrt Managers like thousands of others over many, many years so don’t categorise me into a group as being someone who would want Barton back at the club. You’ve totally lost me with the Marcus Stewart/ George Friend rambling and I really don’t understand why you feel the need to “put the rod out” in an attempt to wind people up - weird!!
Clearly you’ve made a judgement on me without even knowing me - but of of course I’ll give MT another transfer window - but he’s not endearing himself to what players he currently has available by effectively labelling some of them as weak and the shirt they're wearing is too heavy . Losing at home to Burton & Fleetwood and the abject display at Northampton with the tactics employed in all three games was embarrassing, there is a ‘massive’ game coming up for him on Saturday - lose that game as well and MT may not have another window to work in. Fingers crossed we get the three points we desperately need to achieve survival for another season.
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Post by returngas on Feb 19, 2024 10:56:53 GMT
Unfortunately, with a couple of notable exceptions for some reason the Gas finishes many a managers career. Is it just our recruitment of poor managers or is it a really difficult club to manage. There is something about the Gas that seems to make it a hard club to be a manager.
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Post by bluegas on Feb 19, 2024 10:59:21 GMT
Well said, Blueridge. Why this person and his cronies feel it acceptable, necessary or whatever, to continually abuse and berate fellow fans is beyond me. There is some illusion that with JB's departure, the fanbase would be united again. This person and pals seem determined not to allow that. I've followed the club since 1970 and held an ST for many years. Renewal is imminent but doubts about the owners, manager and squad abound. Most of all though, do I want to stand on the same terraces as these people.
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Post by discodave on Feb 19, 2024 11:32:15 GMT
Unfortunately, with a couple of notable exceptions for some reason the Gas finishes many a managers career. Is it just our recruitment of poor managers or is it a really difficult club to manage. There is something about the Gas that seems to make it a hard club to be a manager. Buckle was right ........ Lower our expectations |
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Post by chewbacca on Feb 19, 2024 11:59:47 GMT
Unfortunately, with a couple of notable exceptions for some reason the Gas finishes many a managers career. Is it just our recruitment of poor managers or is it a really difficult club to manage. There is something about the Gas that seems to make it a hard club to be a manager. The only permanent managers post-Holloway to post win percentages of over 35% were; - Paul Trollope (Previously a Coach & Caretaker Manager) - Darrell Clarke (Previously Assistant Manager) - Graham Coughlan (Previously a Coach & Caretaker Manager) - Joey Barton It's almost as if managers who know what the players require from a coach appoint better than pen pushers, divs and pies. |
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Feb 19, 2024 12:34:54 GMT
they certainly did under garner. Only had the one match where they looked happy and that was against Sunderland at home for Tony Craig's 600? Appearance. And in the season we ended up outside the POs from 2nd, winning only against city in the last 11 games of the season. Did you have to ffs 😤 |
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Post by gasify on Feb 19, 2024 13:48:11 GMT
Unfortunately, with a couple of notable exceptions for some reason the Gas finishes many a managers career. Is it just our recruitment of poor managers or is it a really difficult club to manage. There is something about the Gas that seems to make it a hard club to be a manager. The only permanent managers post-Holloway to post win percentages of over 35% were; - Paul Trollope (Previously a Coach & Caretaker Manager) - Darrell Clarke (Previously Assistant Manager) - Graham Coughlan (Previously a Coach & Caretaker Manager) - Joey Barton It's almost as if managers who know what the players require from a coach appoint better than pen pushers, divs and pies. Is this in a single season? |
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Post by chewbacca on Feb 19, 2024 14:34:32 GMT
The only permanent managers post-Holloway to post win percentages of over 35% were; - Paul Trollope (Previously a Coach & Caretaker Manager) - Darrell Clarke (Previously Assistant Manager) - Graham Coughlan (Previously a Coach & Caretaker Manager) - Joey Barton It's almost as if managers who know what the players require from a coach appoint better than pen pushers, divs and pies. Is this in a single season? Over the course of their spells with us. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 19, 2024 20:05:50 GMT
I'm fully behind MT and very keen to see what happens in the summer. We have been decimated with injuries and suspensions recently so you have to cut him some slack. Our best eleven when all fit is a decent team. Just look at those results at Bolton and Portsmouth. What amazes me is that those who are out of contract this summer putting very little effort into getting a new deal. Surely you don't inform out of contract players they are surplus to requirements until after the season has finished? Or at the earliest when you are safe from the drop and have nothing to play for. If signing Conteh was a direction of where the club want to go with recruitment then I am excited for the future. Yes you need experience as well but having so many players who cannot play more than 20 games a season was always going to come back to bite us. Grant Ward is the one exception I would make. Martin is a classic example of the experience you need in a squad. Unfortunately, I cant see us being able to move anyone on who still has a contract beyond this summer. Not unless we want to loan them out whilst still paying a majority of their wages. Perhaps MT has already made it clear that certain players won't be offered new contracts or perhaps they aren't interested in playing his style of football. They are clearly not busting a gut to get a new contract. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2024 22:22:19 GMT
Well said, Blueridge. Why this person and his cronies feel it acceptable, necessary or whatever, to continually abuse and berate fellow fans is beyond me. There is some illusion that with JB's departure, the fanbase would be united again. This person and pals seem determined not to allow that. I've followed the club since 1970 and held an ST for many years. Renewal is imminent but doubts about the owners, manager and squad abound. Most of all though, do I want to stand on the same terraces as these people. I was At Northampton Saturday, I stand proud next to all Gashesds, this is just a forum mate, don’t take offence so easily. I never rambled about George Friend, he came down for Marcus’s charity match, by accident Jennings met him and gave him a deal basically on the spot, 20 games or less in 3 years at Brum, this is why I keep saying about our lazy pension pot signings with him and Barton and why we are in such a mess now with no football department. Go to the start of page 14 on this, you will see the usual posters bashing the new manager who hasn’t had his own window yet or been properly backed by the board. I won’t say sorry for defending MT, but I am sorry my post offended you, I apologise. Back to page 14, I will come on and wind up the Barton boys, Hopper and Betty were gutted when he was fired, when they then attack MT, I come in with the rod. I don’t talk made up stuff, people know it, from saying no one turned up to take training 3 months ago, cancelled hotel rooms, and even on deadline day I announced the signings before they were made public. I defend MT because I know a lot more now which I won’t disclose, I’ve said he’s talking to some very good players whilst also trying to work within the new owners strict model, I’m not saying anymore. |
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Post by albaron on Feb 19, 2024 22:35:24 GMT
Well said, Blueridge. Why this person and his cronies feel it acceptable, necessary or whatever, to continually abuse and berate fellow fans is beyond me. There is some illusion that with JB's departure, the fanbase would be united again. This person and pals seem determined not to allow that. I've followed the club since 1970 and held an ST for many years. Renewal is imminent but doubts about the owners, manager and squad abound. Most of all though, do I want to stand on the same terraces as these people. I was At Northampton Saturday, I stand proud next to all Gashesds, this is just a forum mate, don’t take offence so easily. I never rambled about George Friend, he came down for Marcus’s charity match, by accident Jennings met him and gave him a deal basically on the spot, 20 games or less in 3 years at Brum, this is why I keep saying about our lazy pension pot signings with him and Barton and why we are in such a mess now with no football department. Go to the start of page 14 on this, you will see the usual posters bashing the new manager who hasn’t had his own window yet or been properly backed by the board. I won’t say sorry for defending MT, but I am sorry my post offended you, I apologise. Back to page 14, I will come on and wind up the Barton boys, Hopper and Betty were gutted when he was fired, when they then attack MT, I come in with the rod. I don’t talk made up stuff, people know it, from saying no one turned up to take training 3 months ago, cancelled hotel rooms, and even on deadline day I announced the signings before they were made public. I defend MT because I know a lot more now which I won’t disclose, I’ve said he’s talking to some very good players whilst also trying to work within the new owners strict model, I’m not saying anymore. You make some very good points. It won't be easy but we have to try and get rid of the injured brigade and others Matt feels won't be part of the journey. I think most of the fans will know which players they are as well. The board will need to support Matt both financially and by backing him with the changes he wants to make as well. Hopefully Wayne Carlisle is made full time ( if he wants it ) and a Director of Football is appointed to help and advise with recruitment. Although I can see us running with a smaller squad . I believe if the quality is there it will be better for us in the long run. But a top 6/8 squad will certainly have a cost implication. Lets hope the board have the pennies to do this. |
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Post by Qatar Gas on Feb 20, 2024 5:04:03 GMT
I'm fully behind MT and very keen to see what happens in the summer. We have been decimated with injuries and suspensions recently so you have to cut him some slack. Our best eleven when all fit is a decent team. Just look at those results at Bolton and Portsmouth. What amazes me is that those who are out of contract this summer putting very little effort into getting a new deal. Surely you don't inform out of contract players they are surplus to requirements until after the season has finished? Or at the earliest when you are safe from the drop and have nothing to play for. If signing Conteh was a direction of where the club want to go with recruitment then I am excited for the future. Yes you need experience as well but having so many players who cannot play more than 20 games a season was always going to come back to bite us. Grant Ward is the one exception I would make. Martin is a classic example of the experience you need in a squad. Unfortunately, I cant see us being able to move anyone on who still has a contract beyond this summer. Not unless we want to loan them out whilst still paying a majority of their wages. Perhaps MT has already made it clear that certain players won't be offered new contracts or perhaps they aren't interested in playing his style of football. They are clearly not busting a gut to get a new contract. It does look that way doesn't it. Very dangerous to tell all those you don't want now when there's still a lot of football to be played. Although reading the interview with Scott Sinclair, he is happy to be playing again and the article mentions him trying to earn a new deal. __PRESENT |
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Post by oldmarket65 on Feb 20, 2024 10:36:04 GMT
Well said, Blueridge. Why this person and his cronies feel it acceptable, necessary or whatever, to continually abuse and berate fellow fans is beyond me. There is some illusion that with JB's departure, the fanbase would be united again. This person and pals seem determined not to allow that. I've followed the club since 1970 and held an ST for many years. Renewal is imminent but doubts about the owners, manager and squad abound. Most of all though, do I want to stand on the same terraces as these people. I was At Northampton Saturday, I stand proud next to all Gashesds, this is just a forum mate, don’t take offence so easily. I never rambled about George Friend, he came down for Marcus’s charity match, by accident Jennings met him and gave him a deal basically on the spot, 20 games or less in 3 years at Brum, this is why I keep saying about our lazy pension pot signings with him and Barton and why we are in such a mess now with no football department. Go to the start of page 14 on this, you will see the usual posters bashing the new manager who hasn’t had his own window yet or been properly backed by the board. I won’t say sorry for defending MT, but I am sorry my post offended you, I apologise. Back to page 14, I will come on and wind up the Barton boys, Hopper and Betty were gutted when he was fired, when they then attack MT, I come in with the rod. I don’t talk made up stuff, people know it, from saying no one turned up to take training 3 months ago, cancelled hotel rooms, and even on deadline day I announced the signings before they were made public. I defend MT because I know a lot more now which I won’t disclose, I’ve said he’s talking to some very good players whilst also trying to work within the new owners strict model, I’m not saying anymore. This is the bit I find contradictory. On one hand you say " Barton was given a budget up there with Bolton Pompey Derby Barnsley Charlton peterboro Blackpool Oxford ( Big spenders ). Then you are suggesting that cut backs are now happening and it will be within a 'strict model'. Forgetting about personalities. It begs the question why have we gone from bidding £1 million for one player to not affording basic conditions and basic necessities to run a football club ?. Sooner or later the post Barton debate will have to end and the reality must be confronted to were the club is going next. As I stated Roady I am genuinely confused and I don't doubt your genuiness. |
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Post by madridgas on Feb 20, 2024 12:14:02 GMT
I was At Northampton Saturday, I stand proud next to all Gashesds, this is just a forum mate, don’t take offence so easily. I never rambled about George Friend, he came down for Marcus’s charity match, by accident Jennings met him and gave him a deal basically on the spot, 20 games or less in 3 years at Brum, this is why I keep saying about our lazy pension pot signings with him and Barton and why we are in such a mess now with no football department. Go to the start of page 14 on this, you will see the usual posters bashing the new manager who hasn’t had his own window yet or been properly backed by the board. I won’t say sorry for defending MT, but I am sorry my post offended you, I apologise. Back to page 14, I will come on and wind up the Barton boys, Hopper and Betty were gutted when he was fired, when they then attack MT, I come in with the rod. I don’t talk made up stuff, people know it, from saying no one turned up to take training 3 months ago, cancelled hotel rooms, and even on deadline day I announced the signings before they were made public. I defend MT because I know a lot more now which I won’t disclose, I’ve said he’s talking to some very good players whilst also trying to work within the new owners strict model, I’m not saying anymore. This is the bit I find contradictory. On one hand you say " Barton was given a budget up there with Bolton Pompey Derby Barnsley Charlton peterboro Blackpool Oxford ( Big spenders ). Then you are suggesting that cut backs are now happening and it will be within a 'strict model'. Forgetting about personalities. It begs the question why have we gone from bidding £1 million for one player to not affording basic conditions and basic necessities to run a football club ?. Sooner or later the post Barton debate will have to end and the reality must be confronted to were the club is going next. As I stated Rodman I am genuinely confused and I don't doubt your genuiness. Unless I am missing something, it boils down to the change of majority ownership in early August. We then started to revert to a model similar to when Hani Al-Qadi had strong involvement. The Conteh purchase is probably seen as an better (and cheaper) investment than JCH was, acknowledging that JCH would probably have increased the likelihood of a play-off place with the extra gate revenue of improved performances being seen. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2024 8:49:44 GMT
I was At Northampton Saturday, I stand proud next to all Gashesds, this is just a forum mate, don’t take offence so easily. I never rambled about George Friend, he came down for Marcus’s charity match, by accident Jennings met him and gave him a deal basically on the spot, 20 games or less in 3 years at Brum, this is why I keep saying about our lazy pension pot signings with him and Barton and why we are in such a mess now with no football department. Go to the start of page 14 on this, you will see the usual posters bashing the new manager who hasn’t had his own window yet or been properly backed by the board. I won’t say sorry for defending MT, but I am sorry my post offended you, I apologise. Back to page 14, I will come on and wind up the Barton boys, Hopper and Betty were gutted when he was fired, when they then attack MT, I come in with the rod. I don’t talk made up stuff, people know it, from saying no one turned up to take training 3 months ago, cancelled hotel rooms, and even on deadline day I announced the signings before they were made public. I defend MT because I know a lot more now which I won’t disclose, I’ve said he’s talking to some very good players whilst also trying to work within the new owners strict model, I’m not saying anymore. This is the bit I find contradictory. On one hand you say " Barton was given a budget up there with Bolton Pompey Derby Barnsley Charlton peterboro Blackpool Oxford ( Big spenders ). Then you are suggesting that cut backs are now happening and it will be within a 'strict model'. Forgetting about personalities. It begs the question why have we gone from bidding £1 million for one player to not affording basic conditions and basic necessities to run a football club ?. Sooner or later the post Barton debate will have to end and the reality must be confronted to were the club is going next. As I stated Roady I am genuinely confused and I don't doubt your genuiness. I am questioning things like you re the ownership but thankfully we have a manager now who is lucky with so many underperforming highly paid players leaving. I think some managers are good with money and some are suited to not having any, some are terrible with money. I thought this of DC, as soon as he started spending money on Payne, Mensah, Nicholls etc it wasn’t him. Look at him now at Cheltenham, the same with Cogs and I bet he struggles at Newport as soon as he’s given money like he was at Mansfield! I think the budget will be cut or he will be lucky if we match it again but he’s proven he’s a manager at Exeter that can work to an average budget and integrate youth in the team from the academy. He had some money this season at Rotherham, they didn’t pay off for him. What we need to be next season is a Stevenage, mid table budget and over achieving, I think we have a good fit in MT like Steve Evans who again failed at Peterborough with money! I watch a lot of football like all of us, I get to work in the game a bit, a programme editor recently said to me, you have a David Moyes now at Rovers! He explained, you are like an Everton now, good support, big club your level but no real money, the club is built on the fans who unite behind a manager with a fighting side. Personally I think MT comes over like Moyes, straight talking, a man’s man, not interested in limelight or seeking attention, just a job to do motivating players who are underachievers or need confidence to punch above their weight………..Like Moyes, I don’t necessarily Taylor will ever be good with money, but he is a perfect fit for us and I think it’s why us as a club appealed to him. |
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Post by stevek192 on Feb 21, 2024 9:58:50 GMT
I could bid a million pounds for a player if i had no intention of actually signing the player. This is the sour taste i still have on the JCH deal. I shall wait till the summer to make up my mind about the Manager but more importantly the owners. Talk is of a complete rebuild but this is not totally necessary as we will still have some good players left from this season. For example Brown has shown signs of being a very skilful player who could do a good job for us. He has not yet matched his Exeter form but perhaps this is because he has not yet found his place in the team. Wilson is another who recently has struggled but was a good player for Plymouth and the sort of player who many on here were saying was a great coup. Maybe yet he will prove that it is not his legs gone but a bad period of form due to return from injury.
I think MT will be stupid just to write off players. Yes i appreciate that he will need to cut the wage bills-most Managers do have that stipulation but will the owners again come out with their Top 8 budget or will the Andy Tilson record signing remain during these owners tenancy? If it does the chances of Championship in 3 years are nothing short of a pipe dream.
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