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Post by chewbacca on Feb 22, 2024 12:34:29 GMT
We've got eight contracted players for next season. I think three of those might be bombed out. Taylor will need help with the recruitment and those plans should have started months ago. Unless something extraordinary happens I think we're looking at best at something similar to Ollie's first season in 1996/97. I think we've got a decent spine to start from. I've been very impressed with Jed Ward I'd be happy if he was trusted to be our Number 1. Connor Taylor Conteh, Grant Ward and Anthony Evans And Chris Martin for another year possibly. That's a good nucleus to build a team around. It all depends on what backing Matt Taylor will get in the summer I suppose. I think the club cash in on Evans. |
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Post by Rovers 12th Man on Feb 22, 2024 12:45:31 GMT
If the club cash in on Evans then that goes against everything they are saying in terms of rebuilding and aiming for the Championship in 3 years. I know we sold Collins but he was out of form and looked like he didn't want to be here, not something I see with Evans. He is one of the key players if we want to make a genuine good go at getting out of this league as I doubt we would get any better.
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Post by chewbacca on Feb 22, 2024 13:12:37 GMT
If the club cash in on Evans then that goes against everything they are saying in terms of rebuilding and aiming for the Championship in 3 years. I know we sold Collins but he was out of form and looked like he didn't want to be here, not something I see with Evans. He is one of the key players if we want to make a genuine good go at getting out of this league as I doubt we would get any better. Evans has a year left on his deal? If he's sold for c£1m and that money is reinvested I don't see that as a problem... Especially with £400k still in our back pocket from Collins. |
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Post by Qatar Gas on Feb 22, 2024 13:20:27 GMT
If the club cash in on Evans then that goes against everything they are saying in terms of rebuilding and aiming for the Championship in 3 years. I know we sold Collins but he was out of form and looked like he didn't want to be here, not something I see with Evans. He is one of the key players if we want to make a genuine good go at getting out of this league as I doubt we would get any better. Evans has a year left on his deal? If he's sold for c£1m and that money is reinvested I don't see that as a problem... Especially with £400k still in our back pocket from Collins. After signing Conteh I would like to think the club are looking at the ‘sign young upcoming players and sell them for a profit’ model. Selling these players later down the line doesn’t mean that we cannot get promoted, as long as we continue to invest the money we make in more young players with potential |
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Post by chewbacca on Feb 22, 2024 13:32:57 GMT
Evans has a year left on his deal? If he's sold for c£1m and that money is reinvested I don't see that as a problem... Especially with £400k still in our back pocket from Collins. After signing Conteh I would like to think the club are looking at the ‘sign young upcoming players and sell them for a profit’ model. Selling these players later down the line doesn’t mean that we cannot get promoted, as long as we continue to invest the money we make in more young players with potential The issue will be who is identifying these players? My assumption is Conteh was signed due to one of two things; he was singled out by Rotherham or he was singled out by the previous Rovers regime. Going forward we need to do something else. |
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Post by Qatar Gas on Feb 22, 2024 13:42:55 GMT
After signing Conteh I would like to think the club are looking at the ‘sign young upcoming players and sell them for a profit’ model. Selling these players later down the line doesn’t mean that we cannot get promoted, as long as we continue to invest the money we make in more young players with potential The issue will be who is identifying these players? My assumption is Conteh was signed due to one of two things; he was singled out by Rotherham or he was singled out by the previous Rovers regime. Going forward we need to do something else. 100%. The idea is great but it won’t work without a decent recruitment team (or any recruitment team in our case). |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2024 14:20:47 GMT
agree on this and I’d sign Finley again as well. It’s possible, Oxford stayed up last season on the second last game, in total I think by 3 points. What makes it so hard is we have no football department so the manager and whoever they can get together as scouts are working from nothing. What gives me hope is the Conteh signing, if this is a glimpse of what is possible, we should all be happy. And are you still quite pleased/confident with the calibre of the 3 potential new players we are talking too currently ahead of the summer? Get some better durability around that core of players and we would be doing a lot better. I haven’t heard anything or asked, that’s the truth. |
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Post by returnofthedust on Feb 22, 2024 16:02:33 GMT
If the club cash in on Evans then that goes against everything they are saying in terms of rebuilding and aiming for the Championship in 3 years. I know we sold Collins but he was out of form and looked like he didn't want to be here, not something I see with Evans. He is one of the key players if we want to make a genuine good go at getting out of this league as I doubt we would get any better. Evans has a year left on his deal? If he's sold for c£1m and that money is reinvested I don't see that as a problem... Especially with £400k still in our back pocket from Collins. The aim should be to sign him for longer and make a team around him. If he won’t sign then sell. Theyll get nowhere near a million though. |
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Post by peterhooper57 on Feb 22, 2024 18:09:34 GMT
I think Anthony Evans is absolutely tremendous, imo he would not look out of place playing in the Championship; with Joey now back in the North West, I would not be surprised if both Finley (who has already hinted he wants away) and Anthony are offski in the summer. I hope I am wrong and both stay, although I cannot see either wanting to play long term for Taylor.
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Post by kentgas on Feb 22, 2024 18:50:48 GMT
When did Finley hint that he wanted away?
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Post by holderz on Feb 22, 2024 18:59:08 GMT
Feel we need to sign an experienced Keeper for next season, Jed’s done ok but is not commanding enough in the box, and don’t feel he’s ready if we are serious about challenging at the right end of the table.
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Post by pirate on Feb 22, 2024 19:03:50 GMT
So with one of our best players Antony Evans approaching the final year of his contract, surely there are some negotiations taking place regarding an extension???
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Post by percy on Feb 22, 2024 19:21:11 GMT
I think Anthony Evans is absolutely tremendous, imo he would not look out of place playing in the Championship; with Joey now back in the North West, I would not be surprised if both Finley (who has already hinted he wants away) and Anthony are offski in the summer. I hope I am wrong and both stay, although I cannot see either wanting to play long term for Taylor. Is he back in the north west? Which club. Get over yourself. |
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Post by alanrg on Feb 22, 2024 19:56:48 GMT
Somebody else making up things about Finley wanting away
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 22, 2024 20:15:48 GMT
When did Finley hint that he wanted away? Thought he came out and backed MT and, perhaps surprisingly, was one of most improved players under MT. What he did admit was struggling to find his form under JB this season. |
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Post by trevorgas on Feb 22, 2024 20:31:18 GMT
I think Anthony Evans is absolutely tremendous, imo he would not look out of place playing in the Championship; with Joey now back in the North West, I would not be surprised if both Finley (who has already hinted he wants away) and Anthony are offski in the summer. I hope I am wrong and both stay, although I cannot see either wanting to play long term for Taylor. Why would they not want to play for Taylor,from what I've seen Evo has been at his best during the last few months, doesn't look like someone not putting in maximum effort. |
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Post by Westy on Feb 23, 2024 5:38:01 GMT
Yes, I think what I meant was if you are not well, rovers are bridge too far, this season especially,not sure about new owners or manager Hopefully next season with his own squad things will improve, 🤞I’m feeling it a bit of a chore watching them at the moment ,so I can understand Where Steve is coming from 🤔💙 It's so frustrating, every season we seem to be saying "we need a rebuild in the summer, looking forward to writing this season off and hopefully things will improve next season". I can understand the despondence, whilst the previous regime seemed to have divided the fanbase, we can all unite in saying "we've got our Rovers back".. which means "not signing any good players, losing to bottom half struggling teams, chalking off seasons half way through, waiting to clear out all and sundry from the squad, most likely replacing with the same unknown players that don't bring anything to the table and returning to the same sentiments next season by January. Coupled with off pitch embarrassing business patterns and wholly unqualified owners and senior management" 😓 |
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Post by Westy on Feb 23, 2024 5:51:33 GMT
Plus Luke Thomas and I would extend Finley for another year. Still think my op is right and shows we have a nucleus to build around. Maybe Jevani will play his way in there too. One issue might be - are we willing to offer decent contract extensions to the likes of Evans or look to "cash in"? We all have to admit that we'll cash in for under market value and replace with a 19 year old loan who plays a completely different position. Never have we ever replaced a good player with someone who plays the same role. It's so disheartening. Or, maybe we'll sale for a pittance and spend 1/5th of the fee on a similar player and we can all wonder why we never invest in players and expect wonders. Ricky Lamberts and Snakes don't come around very often for the best of clubs, let alone a team crying out for a proven goalscorer who wonder why we aren't winning matches when the whole idea of the game is to score goals and we have such short sighted owners who think we can do well with a 300k midfielder to win us matches. I - like others - am still incredibly frustrated and sour we didn't sign JCH. God forbid we sign someone who scores goals. Martin can't carry the team alone, despite scoring regularly. Imagine we had another player who can score goals. Crazy I know, we don't sign 2 strikers capable of putting the ball in the net. That's not the Rovers way! God I'm back to being cynical over these last few months. It's like the owners are trying to run a pound shop, not a football club. |
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Post by percy on Feb 23, 2024 8:00:18 GMT
Still think my op is right and shows we have a nucleus to build around. Maybe Jevani will play his way in there too. One issue might be - are we willing to offer decent contract extensions to the likes of Evans or look to "cash in"? We all have to admit that we'll cash in for under market value and replace with a 19 year old loan who plays a completely different position. Never have we ever replaced a good player with someone who plays the same role. It's so disheartening. Or, maybe we'll sale for a pittance and spend 1/5th of the fee on a similar player and we can all wonder why we never invest in players and expect wonders. Ricky Lamberts and Snakes don't come around very often for the best of clubs, let alone a team crying out for a proven goalscorer who wonder why we aren't winning matches when the whole idea of the game is to score goals and we have such short sighted owners who think we can do well with a 300k midfielder to win us matches. I - like others - am still incredibly frustrated and sour we didn't sign JCH. God forbid we sign someone who scores goals. Martin can't carry the team alone, despite scoring regularly. Imagine we had another player who can score goals. Crazy I know, we don't sign 2 strikers capable of putting the ball in the net. That's not the Rovers way! God I'm back to being cynical over these last few months. It's like the owners are trying to run a pound shop, not a football club. Not sure I have to admit that! Our only perm signing so far is very encouraging. What we do in the summer to build a team around the 7 or 8 will be interesting. Not going to throw money around, probably rightly, but willing to spend on the right players - which for me includes tying down the likes of Evans. Not sure JCH would have done better than Martin. We realistically werent going to sign both. Really expected Marquis, Brown and Collins to have contributed much more not sure another on top of those 4 was really needed. |
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Post by Westy on Feb 23, 2024 9:57:01 GMT
We all have to admit that we'll cash in for under market value and replace with a 19 year old loan who plays a completely different position. Never have we ever replaced a good player with someone who plays the same role. It's so disheartening. Or, maybe we'll sale for a pittance and spend 1/5th of the fee on a similar player and we can all wonder why we never invest in players and expect wonders. Ricky Lamberts and Snakes don't come around very often for the best of clubs, let alone a team crying out for a proven goalscorer who wonder why we aren't winning matches when the whole idea of the game is to score goals and we have such short sighted owners who think we can do well with a 300k midfielder to win us matches. I - like others - am still incredibly frustrated and sour we didn't sign JCH. God forbid we sign someone who scores goals. Martin can't carry the team alone, despite scoring regularly. Imagine we had another player who can score goals. Crazy I know, we don't sign 2 strikers capable of putting the ball in the net. That's not the Rovers way! God I'm back to being cynical over these last few months. It's like the owners are trying to run a pound shop, not a football club. Not sure I have to admit that! Our only perm signing so far is very encouraging. What we do in the summer to build a team around the 7 or 8 will be interesting. Not going to throw money around, probably rightly, but willing to spend on the right players - which for me includes tying down the likes of Evans. Not sure JCH would have done better than Martin. We realistically werent going to sign both. Really expected Marquis, Brown and Collins to have contributed much more not sure another on top of those 4 was really needed. Good points Percy, I'm very much on the fence and teetering between both. But I'm glad you've given me something counter to think about 🙏🏼 I get wrapped up a bit in a negative spiral being a gas head at times, and always happy when fellow gas bring a bit of daylight back to my thinking!! |
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