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Post by nickchippenhamgas on Apr 8, 2024 9:48:36 GMT
If we take the owners at their word, ie ‘hitch with the paperwork’ ‘he changed his wage demand etc etc then we saved £800,000 in transfer fees, that’s just under £8k a week on a 2 year contract, now I don’t know the wage demands, but add the fee to the demands and it would be a lot of money per week.
Is he worth signing in the summer?? For me yes, and quick bit of business too.
The August 2023 fiasco cost us any chance of the playoffs, if we have any aspirations of challenging near the top of league one next season and getting bums on seats we have to get JCH or someone similar or waste another season mid table (I realise it’s not just the forwards we need to sort but I’m sticking to the OP about JCH)
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Post by percy on Apr 8, 2024 10:01:56 GMT
Can we not build a squad with pace and options without every single player having to have pace? I’m not sure why having a JCH or a Martin as striker means a team has to play route one - I’m sure both of them would prefer to play in a team where they get crosses played into the box or short passes played to feet rather than long back to front balls hoofed in their general direction. If MT is our manager next season he needs to find a way to play further up the pitch - if we continue to play deep it doesn’t matter which type of striker we have as they will still be getting rubbish service from long punts up the pitch. Quite right, we were promoted in 2007 with one of the slowest front twos in modern history. Well thats why I said IMHO, i would prefer that style of play. Eric - I guess I'd rather use the 10K per week he will want to get some exciting pace in the team, We currently have none. |
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Post by chewbacca on Apr 8, 2024 10:10:15 GMT
Quite right, we were promoted in 2007 with one of the slowest front twos in modern history. Well thats why I said IMHO, i would prefer that style of play. Eric - I guess I'd rather use the 10K per week he will want to get some exciting pace in the team, We currently have none. It'll be an interesting summer, seeing what Friend, Spendlove and the new ownership models idea of progressing the club looks like. I think next year could be another fallow year with the level of rebuilding needed. Similar levels of recruitment Holloway in 1996 and 2000, 96 was fine and led to the Playoff tilt in 97/98... 2000 was a disaster. |
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Post by oliverhelmet on Apr 8, 2024 10:11:09 GMT
Nailed on signing for Deadpool i reckon.
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Post by rovers330260 on Apr 8, 2024 10:12:57 GMT
Quite right, we were promoted in 2007 with one of the slowest front twos in modern history. Well thats why I said IMHO, i would prefer that style of play. Eric - I guess I'd rather use the 10K per week he will want to get some exciting pace in the team, We currently have none. |
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Post by eric on Apr 8, 2024 10:19:26 GMT
We don't need JCH and Martin, as both are similar. Both can score goals, but won't stretch the defence and won't get in behind. Both will want a decent wage, so we can't afford to tie up that much of the budget. So I think it's a choice of one or the other! Then a lot will come down to, how much money each will want etc. I think this could be why we didn't give Martin a 2 year deal straight away. They might be giving the board too much credit though! But for once, it seemed like the Martin contact was in our favor. Absolutely - I would never advocate those two playing together as a partnership, unless in a desperate ‘chucking the kitchen sink’ in the closing minutes when losing. JCH (or CM for that matter) need some pace wide and behind as well as us as a team playing higher up the pitch to be most effective |
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Post by rovers330260 on Apr 8, 2024 10:20:12 GMT
Well thats why I said IMHO, i would prefer that style of play. Eric - I guess I'd rather use the 10K per week he will want to get some exciting pace in the team, We currently have none. Well lambert didn’t have pace . Left gas 29/30 YO and ended up at Liverpool and playing for England at 32 JCH would be a terrific get IMHO |
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Post by eric on Apr 8, 2024 10:36:02 GMT
Quite right, we were promoted in 2007 with one of the slowest front twos in modern history. Well thats why I said IMHO, i would prefer that style of play. Eric - I guess I'd rather use the 10K per week he will want to get some exciting pace in the team, We currently have none. We’ve seen how crucial having a top striker is this season - all the optimism prior to summer deadline day evaporated when the JCH deal fell through. Who knows where we’d have ended up but I’m pretty confident we’d have got off to a better start and may have been able to ride some momentum? I think back to Barnsley at home (was that the second or third game) and all those chances missed by Marquis in a game we should have won by 3 or 4 goals. I definitely agree the team needs more pace but I’m not convinced that should be the single top priority attribute of our number nine - the ability to find the back of the net overrides that. We may take a gamble on a young striker and it could come off. I think the chances of that are quite slim compared to the odds of JCH hitting the ground running. We could go for both - JCH for the here and now with a raw youngster coming here to develop and not be first choice in their first season? I’m already fearful for next season with such a huge squad overhaul likely and pinning our hopes on a completely untried, raw youngster as our number nine could go pear shaped very quickly. I don’t want next season to be written off as developmental after just a couple of months. I’m impatient and want us to compete at the top end of the table asap rather than waiting another couple of seasons! |
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Post by yattongas on Apr 8, 2024 10:53:43 GMT
Well thats why I said IMHO, i would prefer that style of play. Eric - I guess I'd rather use the 10K per week he will want to get some exciting pace in the team, We currently have none. We’ve seen how crucial having a top striker is this season - all the optimism prior to summer deadline day evaporated when the JCH deal fell through. Who knows where we’d have ended up but I’m pretty confident we’d have got off to a better start and may have been able to ride some momentum? I think back to Barnsley at home (was that the second or third game) and all those chances missed by Marquis in a game we should have won by 3 or 4 goals. I definitely agree the team needs more pace but I’m not convinced that should be the single top priority attribute of our number nine - the ability to find the back of the net overrides that. We may take a gamble on a young striker and it could come off. I think the chances of that are quite slim compared to the odds of JCH hitting the ground running. We could go for both - JCH for the here and now with a raw youngster coming here to develop and not be first choice in their first season? I’m already fearful for next season with such a huge squad overhaul likely and pinning our hopes on a completely untried, raw youngster as our number nine could go pear shaped very quickly. I don’t want next season to be written off as developmental after just a couple of months. I’m impatient and want us to compete at the top end of the table asap rather than waiting another couple of seasons! You’ll need to buy a season ticket Eric then to help pay for his wages |
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Post by eric on Apr 8, 2024 11:07:41 GMT
We’ve seen how crucial having a top striker is this season - all the optimism prior to summer deadline day evaporated when the JCH deal fell through. Who knows where we’d have ended up but I’m pretty confident we’d have got off to a better start and may have been able to ride some momentum? I think back to Barnsley at home (was that the second or third game) and all those chances missed by Marquis in a game we should have won by 3 or 4 goals. I definitely agree the team needs more pace but I’m not convinced that should be the single top priority attribute of our number nine - the ability to find the back of the net overrides that. We may take a gamble on a young striker and it could come off. I think the chances of that are quite slim compared to the odds of JCH hitting the ground running. We could go for both - JCH for the here and now with a raw youngster coming here to develop and not be first choice in their first season? I’m already fearful for next season with such a huge squad overhaul likely and pinning our hopes on a completely untried, raw youngster as our number nine could go pear shaped very quickly. I don’t want next season to be written off as developmental after just a couple of months. I’m impatient and want us to compete at the top end of the table asap rather than waiting another couple of seasons! You’ll need to buy a season ticket Eric then to help pay for his wages I’ll probably end up paying more next season as pay on the day so doing my bit. |
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Post by stapletongas on Apr 8, 2024 12:16:14 GMT
If Posh have him, could use him but choose not to, what does that say? I say there's something wrong. maybe when it didn't go through last time we found something we didn't like? Who knows! So much chat on here about building a top 6 squad and we want to sign a player that can't get into a top 6 squad? Big no from me. Posh have a strict wage structure of transfer listing their players within 1 year of their contract. I think the way they would look at it is why keep playing him improving his contract negotiations for him when he leaves in the summer on a free vs playing a player with potential who they know they will have for a longer period and hopefully sell on for a lot of money I.e Toney/Gayle etc. I honestly don't think the posh's main focus is winning promotion etc, they are run more like a sustainable business taking the odd gamble here and there in a player to make a lot of money potentially. So keep paying a player but don’t play him? If he’s good enough that’s cutting your nose off to spite your face and makes no sense at all. More to this, not fit, underlying injuries, personality, better options, whatever if he’s not good enough for their top 6 push then he’s not good enough for our aspirations either. When he was with us some said Championship material, quality etc. Clearly not. I still suspect we found/saw something we didn’t like. Move on, look elsewhere |
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 8, 2024 13:03:10 GMT
Posh have a strict wage structure of transfer listing their players within 1 year of their contract. I think the way they would look at it is why keep playing him improving his contract negotiations for him when he leaves in the summer on a free vs playing a player with potential who they know they will have for a longer period and hopefully sell on for a lot of money I.e Toney/Gayle etc. I honestly don't think the posh's main focus is winning promotion etc, they are run more like a sustainable business taking the odd gamble here and there in a player to make a lot of money potentially. So keep paying a player but don’t play him? If he’s good enough that’s cutting your nose off to spite your face and makes no sense at all. More to this, not fit, underlying injuries, personality, better options, whatever if he’s not good enough for their top 6 push then he’s not good enough for our aspirations either. When he was with us some said Championship material, quality etc. Clearly not. I still suspect we found/saw something we didn’t like. Move on, look elsewhere You clearly don't appreciate how DM at Posh works, there's no way JCH isn't being played purely on footballing grounds. A player doesn't go from being a Golden Boot winner to being useless overnight. |
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Post by mrgasman on Apr 8, 2024 15:11:13 GMT
So keep paying a player but don’t play him? If he’s good enough that’s cutting your nose off to spite your face and makes no sense at all. More to this, not fit, underlying injuries, personality, better options, whatever if he’s not good enough for their top 6 push then he’s not good enough for our aspirations either. When he was with us some said Championship material, quality etc. Clearly not. I still suspect we found/saw something we didn’t like. Move on, look elsewhere You clearly don't appreciate how DM at Posh works, there's no way JCH isn't being played purely on footballing grounds. A player doesn't go from being a Golden Boot winner to being useless overnight. Well said. I’m amazed you even had to point this out tbh 👍. |
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Post by gas2 on Apr 8, 2024 15:26:04 GMT
Hell yes , we haven’t scored for eight games. To be fair JCH only has one goal in his last 13 games... That's one more than our entire team has scored recently ? |
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Post by warehamgas on Apr 8, 2024 15:29:02 GMT
We can find his stats for the whole season with a bit of searching and a spreadsheet... ...1336 mins in the league (so approx 15 full games). Seven league goals which is one every 191 minutes. Not prolific, not disastrous. Probably not the solution to a team that needs a fit, prolific striker... You forget that Gashead scouting on the whole is "has he played for us and was he good before?". But chewy you also forgot that we sign defenders and midfielders and think we’ve completed our recruitment until someone notices we haven’t signed any strikers….. and the window has closed. Happened so often now it must be policy! 😢 UTG! |
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Post by willytopp84 on Apr 8, 2024 15:48:40 GMT
I think as mentioned elsewhere here he will sign for Wrexham in the summer as they will be pushing for promotion again next term.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Apr 8, 2024 17:05:45 GMT
Posh have a strict wage structure of transfer listing their players within 1 year of their contract. I think the way they would look at it is why keep playing him improving his contract negotiations for him when he leaves in the summer on a free vs playing a player with potential who they know they will have for a longer period and hopefully sell on for a lot of money I.e Toney/Gayle etc. I honestly don't think the posh's main focus is winning promotion etc, they are run more like a sustainable business taking the odd gamble here and there in a player to make a lot of money potentially. So keep paying a player but don’t play him? If he’s good enough that’s cutting your nose off to spite your face and makes no sense at all. More to this, not fit, underlying injuries, personality, better options, whatever if he’s not good enough for their top 6 push then he’s not good enough for our aspirations either. When he was with us some said Championship material, quality etc. Clearly not. I still suspect we found/saw something we didn’t like. Move on, look elsewhere It does make sense. You're assuming the be all and end all for Pboro is to win promotion, which it isn't IMO. It is to find players with potential and make as much money as possible from them. They aren't going to do that with JCH who is going to leave on a free in the summer. |
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Post by pucklegas on Apr 8, 2024 17:19:52 GMT
We won t be able to get anywhere near his wage demands, we re shopping in cheaper wage demands.com
Up and coming prem and champ released youngsters.
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Post by Gasshole on Apr 8, 2024 22:23:17 GMT
If you want to buy some goals it’s most likely going to cost a fair wedge…..and rightly so.
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Post by TAGas on Apr 9, 2024 8:58:10 GMT
He'll go to Wrexham when they come up
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