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Post by Claremont Gas on May 9, 2024 17:40:18 GMT
Seriously hope they up their game next season … match day commentary has been below average at best and simply awful some weeks. I listen to the home commentary when I’m not at the away game and our rivals coverage is far far better. They have done their homework on us and know about our players and back grounds.
Thursday night slot … Having a Gas … mix it up for heavens sake - same old fans month in month out - same old dross !
Far better listen is GasCast with Neno and his crew .
More in Hope than expectation Radio Bristol improves … can’t see it though.
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Post by yattongas on May 9, 2024 17:42:02 GMT
Oh great , more bloody moaning 🙄
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Post by Claremont Gas on May 9, 2024 18:12:50 GMT
Not really …. I know they read the forum so hoping it gets back to them …
Decent commentators please …. More wider fan involvement ….
Definitely not moaning I promise :
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Post by fatherbrown on May 9, 2024 18:36:50 GMT
Not really …. I know they read the forum so hoping it gets back to them … Decent commentators please …. More wider fan involvement …. Definitely not moaning I promise : And less of the Gary Owers show from just after five. |
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Post by popuppirate on May 9, 2024 18:36:56 GMT
It's true unfortunately, the commentary is poor. No disrespect to KB, but he's not a broadcaster nor is he a current or former pro. The main commentator, don't recall his name, often sounds more pleased when the opposition score and shouldn't sound like he doesn't want to be there. I also generally find the opposition commentary much better even when clearly biased.
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Post by Gashead73 on May 10, 2024 9:18:15 GMT
I agree.
Our matchday Radio coverage needs a complete overhaul......I'm fedvup of little nonsensical chit chat during the match. If I tune in then I want proper coverage just like Colin Howlett used to do.
I dont what knowvthat it's Rita from Patchway who is celebrating her 59th birthday etc, just keep the meat on the bones and commentate ffs!
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Post by Henbury Gas on May 10, 2024 9:40:33 GMT
if Sky are broadcasting all our games will they put on commentators or use Bristol Radio... and if they do use in house can we tap into it ?
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Post by neilv93 on May 10, 2024 10:04:21 GMT
Far better listen is GasCast with Neno and his crew. GasCast is an excellent listen, kudos to WeAreTheGas and co for a cracking product. That's what listening to John May, Will Cope and co for three years produces  |
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Post by johnmalyckyj on May 10, 2024 11:16:40 GMT
Not really …. I know they read the forum so hoping it gets back to them … Decent commentators please …. More wider fan involvement …. Definitely not moaning I promise : How do you define a "decent commentator"? I did the job for twenty years for Hospital Radio retiring in 22/23, it may appear an easy thing to do if you've never actually picked up a microphone and done it. It's easy to be critical but there is a only a split second to describe what is happening and sometimes things change so quickly you are literally chasing the play. The summariser will sometimes have to "tidy-up" what the commentator has just described in real time by explaining what led to the chance. It may seem an easy thing to do, but it isn't and there is no wrong way or right way to do it. The hardest matches to describe are the ones where nothing is happening and that's where a little colour can help entertain those who cannot actually see what is happening. There are some commentators I don't like listening to but it doesn't mean that they are bad at their job. Radio Bristol has produced some really good commentators who have gone on to national success such as Alistair Bruce-Ball and more recently Alfie Reynolds who has worked both for the BBC and Talk Sport (he now specialises on rugby). He actually gained experience at Hospital Radio and I worked with him at Ashton Gate for a while, within two minutes of his first commentary stint I knew that he was a natural, it's been great to see him develop. Others have tried but fallen quickly by the wayside because they soon realised it wasn't something they could do. I don't think iFollow has helped Radio Bristol because they are essentially providing radio commentary not TV commentary which are different disciplines. You may be critical because a commentator has named the wrong player but it isn't easy if it's an "opposition player" early in the game who is unfamiliar, you can't see their number and you have a split second to call it. Any way it's all opinions in the end! Kind regards John Malyckyj |
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Post by Claremont Gas on May 10, 2024 11:27:10 GMT
Not really …. I know they read the forum so hoping it gets back to them … Decent commentators please …. More wider fan involvement …. Definitely not moaning I promise : How do you define a "decent commentator"? I did the job for twenty years for Hospital Radio retiring in 22/23, it may appear an easy thing to do if you've never actually picked up a microphone and done it. It's easy to be critical but there is a only a split second to describe what is happening and sometimes things change so quickly you are literally chasing the play. The summariser will sometimes have to "tidy-up" what the commentator has just described in real time by explaining what led to the chance. It may seem an easy thing to do, but it isn't and there is no wrong way or right way to do it. The hardest matches to describe are the ones where nothing is happening and that's where a little colour can help entertain those who cannot actually see what is happening. There are some commentators I don't like listening to but it doesn't mean that they are bad at their job. Radio Bristol has produced some really good commentators who have gone on to national success such as Alistair Bruce-Ball and more recently Alfie Reynolds who has worked both for the BBC and Talk Sport (he now specialises on rugby). He actually gained experience at Hospital Radio and I worked with him at Ashton Gate for a while, within two minutes of his first commentary stint I knew that he was a natural, it's been great to see him develop. Others have tried but fallen quickly by the wayside because they soon realised it wasn't something they could do. I don't think iFollow has helped Radio Bristol because they are essentially providing radio commentary not TV commentary which are different disciplines. You may be critical because a commentator has named the wrong player but it isn't easy if it's an "opposition player" early in the game who is unfamiliar, you can't see their number and you have a split second to call it. Any way it's all opinions in the end! Kind regards John Malyckyj John I don't disagree with you at all ... having done some commentary myself I agree its not as easy as it could seem. That said it can be great fun and if you have done your research on the players and know your stuff you have a good start. What I would like from Radio Bristol is a commentary team that do keep up with the play, know who the players are, don't shout and screech through the game and don't whitter on talking tripe at times. As i said - when listening to the 'Home' commentary from some Away games it is a completely different level. I feel Radio Bristol have relied too heavily on the same group for too long who can come across as patronising and genuinely seem more excited when the opposition scored. Keith being the exception to the opposition scoring piece - he gets very frustrated for sure. |
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Post by A Source (aka Angry Badger) on May 10, 2024 11:47:11 GMT
Granted commentary is a skill but if I can I listen to the opponents commentary for the following reasons.
They appreciate that those listening might not be able to see the game.
They generally get our players names right.
They know the difference between left and right. Still trying to work out how Thomas is running down the right wing and whips in a left footed outswinger with pace
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Post by casey12a on May 10, 2024 11:56:42 GMT
Please not the shouty Yeovil fan, she is painful to listen to.
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Post by alanrg on May 10, 2024 12:11:56 GMT
One of the worst commentators on Radio Bristol is Andy Howard who is also on Points West one of his classics was when he asked Sean O’Driscoll of the dark side was he up for the fight to which the reply was don’t be stupid go away made me laugh
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Post by Quarters on May 10, 2024 12:13:38 GMT
Please not the shouty Yeovil fan, she is painful to listen to. Yet she is getting more gigs on 5live |
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Post by chewbacca on May 10, 2024 12:15:42 GMT
Do we think we'll ever get to a point where people don't think local media coverage is crap/bias/woke/whatever the latest moan? Probably not.
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Post by seanclevedongas on May 10, 2024 14:46:44 GMT
Oh great , more bloody moaning 🙄 * sake more moaning about moaning!!!  |
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Post by Topper Gas on May 10, 2024 14:59:39 GMT
Do we think we'll ever get to a point where people don't think local media coverage is crap/bias/woke/whatever the latest moan? Probably not. When it's gone, probably within 5 years? |
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Post by popuppirate on May 10, 2024 16:45:58 GMT
Not really …. I know they read the forum so hoping it gets back to them … Decent commentators please …. More wider fan involvement …. Definitely not moaning I promise : How do you define a "decent commentator"? I did the job for twenty years for Hospital Radio retiring in 22/23, it may appear an easy thing to do if you've never actually picked up a microphone and done it. It's easy to be critical but there is a only a split second to describe what is happening and sometimes things change so quickly you are literally chasing the play. The summariser will sometimes have to "tidy-up" what the commentator has just described in real time by explaining what led to the chance. It may seem an easy thing to do, but it isn't and there is no wrong way or right way to do it. The hardest matches to describe are the ones where nothing is happening and that's where a little colour can help entertain those who cannot actually see what is happening. There are some commentators I don't like listening to but it doesn't mean that they are bad at their job. Radio Bristol has produced some really good commentators who have gone on to national success such as Alistair Bruce-Ball and more recently Alfie Reynolds who has worked both for the BBC and Talk Sport (he now specialises on rugby). He actually gained experience at Hospital Radio and I worked with him at Ashton Gate for a while, within two minutes of his first commentary stint I knew that he was a natural, it's been great to see him develop. Others have tried but fallen quickly by the wayside because they soon realised it wasn't something they could do. I don't think iFollow has helped Radio Bristol because they are essentially providing radio commentary not TV commentary which are different disciplines. You may be critical because a commentator has named the wrong player but it isn't easy if it's an "opposition player" early in the game who is unfamiliar, you can't see their number and you have a split second to call it. Any way it's all opinions in the end! Kind regards John Malyckyj It may well be a difficult job, I certainly couldn't do it, but the same could be said for the referee, or linesman, or manager. They're not exempt from criticism. If there's comparison available, from other regions commentary, then it's fair enough to mention it. I have no issue with occasional mistakes or slips of the tongue, but if rovers fans are choosing to listen to biased commentary from other stations than our own then something is surely not right. And yes, I'd happily listen to a female commentator who can accurately describe events taking place with some charisma and knowledge. |
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Post by johnmalyckyj on May 10, 2024 17:03:48 GMT
Please not the shouty Yeovil fan, she is painful to listen to. Yet she is getting more gigs on 5live They clearly see a talent there, and when I've heard her during iFollow matches, thought she did very well. We know she's a Yeovil fan and she's never hidden it. She's made it to national radio, good luck to her. Kind regards John Malyckyj |
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Post by johnmalyckyj on May 10, 2024 17:13:20 GMT
How do you define a "decent commentator"? I did the job for twenty years for Hospital Radio retiring in 22/23, it may appear an easy thing to do if you've never actually picked up a microphone and done it. It's easy to be critical but there is a only a split second to describe what is happening and sometimes things change so quickly you are literally chasing the play. The summariser will sometimes have to "tidy-up" what the commentator has just described in real time by explaining what led to the chance. It may seem an easy thing to do, but it isn't and there is no wrong way or right way to do it. The hardest matches to describe are the ones where nothing is happening and that's where a little colour can help entertain those who cannot actually see what is happening. There are some commentators I don't like listening to but it doesn't mean that they are bad at their job. Radio Bristol has produced some really good commentators who have gone on to national success such as Alistair Bruce-Ball and more recently Alfie Reynolds who has worked both for the BBC and Talk Sport (he now specialises on rugby). He actually gained experience at Hospital Radio and I worked with him at Ashton Gate for a while, within two minutes of his first commentary stint I knew that he was a natural, it's been great to see him develop. Others have tried but fallen quickly by the wayside because they soon realised it wasn't something they could do. I don't think iFollow has helped Radio Bristol because they are essentially providing radio commentary not TV commentary which are different disciplines. You may be critical because a commentator has named the wrong player but it isn't easy if it's an "opposition player" early in the game who is unfamiliar, you can't see their number and you have a split second to call it. Any way it's all opinions in the end! Kind regards John Malyckyj It may well be a difficult job, I certainly couldn't do it, but the same could be said for the referee, or linesman, or manager. They're not exempt from criticism. If there's comparison available, from other regions commentary, then it's fair enough to mention it. I have no issue with occasional mistakes or slips of the tongue, but if rovers fans are choosing to listen to biased commentary from other stations than our own then something is surely not right. And yes, I'd happily listen to a female commentator who can accurately describe events taking place with some charisma and knowledge. A fair point, but as I've tried to explain it isn't straightforward trying to describe something as it happens whilst things are moving very rapidly, is actually really challenging. I think some criticise because they don't like a voice, fair enough but then they don't articulate exactly what they want instead. In my own experience you have to try to give some colour to a commentary because just saying "A is passing to B who passes it forward to C" can become incredibly tedious. I've always tried my best to describe play as accurately as possible but you need to give people a sense of what else is happening. The hardest season ever was the covid period when we commentated with no-one else in the ground, we quickly realised how much we relied on the crowd for background and atmosphere, you realised how much your commentary fed off the supporters. Kind regards John Malyckyj |
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