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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 14, 2024 15:43:20 GMT
Thought we looked solid first half, but 2nd was pretty one way traffic and the deserved team won. Whilst the defence looks very solid overall and I was impressed with Griffiths last night, I feel like we're missing an Evans type player and another striker. Hopefully Martin fills that gap, but it feels a bit like last season, just the players look like they are really trying. Thomas needs to be far more attacking on the wing though. Whilst I understand the comments of it not being Cardiff's best team, it wasn't ours either. I agree with a bit of the 'squad' comment too. Don't forget Bonham was 3rd choice keeper at Championship Brentford and came in as one of the best keepers in the league.. The gap is big. I'm surprised Hutchinson didn't play at all last night as it would have been interesting to see if he can fill the Evans role against decent opposition. McCormick clearly can't fill the role and I'm not sure if Garrett is supposed to be an ACM or DCM? |
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Post by igotgas on Aug 14, 2024 15:57:24 GMT
I feel like we're missing an Evans type player I’ve read this a couple of times since Saturday. Hutchinson is the Evans replacement and was rested last night. He’s almost an identical height, shape and build and he pretty much matched Evans identically in almost every single dept last season barring goals and assists where he doubled Evans totals. Give him time to settle and get games under his belt. It seems we’re making a judgement on a technically gifted player based on one game of Hoofball where the ball flew over his head and barely touched the grass for 90 mins in 30deg heat! |
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Post by Gassy on Aug 14, 2024 16:10:03 GMT
I feel like we're missing an Evans type player I’ve read this a couple of times since Saturday. Hutchinson is the Evans replacement and was rested last night. He’s almost an identical height, shape and build and he pretty much matched Evans identically in almost every single dept last season barring goals and assists where he doubled Evans totals. Give him time to settle and get games under his belt. It seems we’re making a judgement on a technically gifted player based on one game of Hoofball where the ball flew over his head and barely touched the grass for 90 mins in 30deg heat! I only saw the first 30-40 mins of the Northampton game as I was on the ferry back from France, and the wifi was... lets say iffy... It's a fair point, I just didn't see much of him the other day and obviously last night we were crying out for that type of player. Of course let's give him time, but there's obviously going to be a bit of a downgrade there. One player did that in L1 and the other in L2. |
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Post by igotgas on Aug 14, 2024 16:20:43 GMT
That doesn’t make it a downgrade. For all we know right now it could be an upgrade. Time will tell.
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Post by wallywalters on Aug 14, 2024 16:26:38 GMT
Anthony Evans was the best midfielder I saw in league one last season and i saw every team at least once. Not saying he was the best as stats will probably tell me im wrong but he was the best I saw. There is no replacing that unless your willing to spend upwards of a million pounds. It's what makes the fee received for him all the more pathetic and why Huddersfield fans cannot believe they only had to pay 500k having now witnessed him play.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 14, 2024 16:50:04 GMT
How can you judge a player after one game where he's probably giving 110%, let's see if they're still saying the same in a few months.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Aug 14, 2024 16:58:00 GMT
Anthony Evans was the best midfielder I saw in league one last season and i saw every team at least once. Not saying he was the best as stats will probably tell me im wrong but he was the best I saw. There is no replacing that unless your willing to spend upwards of a million pounds. It's what makes the fee received for him all the more pathetic and why Huddersfield fans cannot believe they only had to pay 500k having now witnessed him play. Absolute joke how little we got for him. Yet I bet the club officials were patting each other's back as a deal well done... |
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Post by Wembley_Gas on Aug 14, 2024 17:10:10 GMT
Christ. What a load of bilge that is. Would hope we could come up with something about him as a player rather than a chant that belongs in the 80s about the size of his penis. Agreed that is atrocious, I really hope that doesn’t catch on and our fans are discerning enough to realise it’s stereotypical, crass and not even remotely funny. If I was him I’d think seriously about whether I’d want to play for a fanbase who think that’s a good song to sing about me. Let’s bury this chant Gasheads. |
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Post by dulwichgas on Aug 14, 2024 17:31:52 GMT
Anthony Evans was the best midfielder I saw in league one last season and i saw every team at least once. Not saying he was the best as stats will probably tell me im wrong but he was the best I saw. There is no replacing that unless your willing to spend upwards of a million pounds. It's what makes the fee received for him all the more pathetic and why Huddersfield fans cannot believe they only had to pay 500k having now witnessed him play. Absolute joke how little we got for him. Yet I bet the club officials were patting each other's back as a deal well done... Can only get what someone is willing to pay. I assume we wanted to get it done early so we had wiggle room ourselves to make signings i.e Promise |
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Post by Gas1977 on Aug 14, 2024 17:36:14 GMT
Anthony Evans was the best midfielder I saw in league one last season and i saw every team at least once. Not saying he was the best as stats will probably tell me im wrong but he was the best I saw. There is no replacing that unless you’re willing to spend upwards of a million pounds. It's what makes the fee received for him all the more pathetic and why Huddersfield fans cannot believe they only had to pay 500k having now witnessed him play. I have to be honest it genuinely baffles me that some on here think he’s not that all that, he’s one of the best players I’ve ever seen play for us. Technically a fantastic player but I loved the fact he was very tenacious and worked extremely hard for the team, a combination that is rare to find in attacking midfielders. We had our pants pulled down |
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 14, 2024 17:43:49 GMT
Anthony Evans was the best midfielder I saw in league one last season and i saw every team at least once. Not saying he was the best as stats will probably tell me im wrong but he was the best I saw. There is no replacing that unless you’re willing to spend upwards of a million pounds. It's what makes the fee received for him all the more pathetic and why Huddersfield fans cannot believe they only had to pay 500k having now witnessed him play. I have to be honest it genuinely baffles me that some on here think he’s not that all that, he’s one of the best players I’ve ever seen play for us. Technically a fantastic player but I loved the fact he was very tenacious and worked extremely hard for the team, a combination that is rare to find in attacking midfielders. We had our pants pulled down It also baffled me how posters think our owners just sell players for the first offer they receive, the fact is the offer we received from Huddersfield was the best we were going to get this summer and if we'd rejected it then we would have probably had to sell him for substantially less in January. Hopefully we've included some decent promotion clauses etc included so we'll be looking at upto a £1m if Huddersfield get promoted. |
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Post by gasheadontour on Aug 14, 2024 18:01:20 GMT
Regarding the Promise song. I know a player who had a similar song about him years ago, and that he hated it as a racist trope.
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Post by Qatar Gas on Aug 14, 2024 19:01:32 GMT
Regarding the Promise song. I know a player who had a similar song about him years ago, and that he hated it as a racist trope. I’ve just been reading a debate online between Blackburn fans who are also using the song for one of their players. Similar sort of reactions. Surely somebody can come up with something much better? One that the player himself might actually like |
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Post by wallywalters on Aug 14, 2024 19:09:33 GMT
How can you judge a player after one game where he's probably giving 110%, let's see if they're still saying the same in a few months. Their not. They have seen him play 7 or 8 matches now including pre season. I don't think there's any doubt at all what they will be saying at the end of the season. He is an absolutely superb footballer and we had our pants pulled down. Last year of contract or not. Do you really think Peterborough would have accepted 500k for one of the top midfielders in league one last year of their contract or not? If we'd of held out and played hardball we'd have got much much more from Brum, Huddersfield, or a championship side. We are renowned panic sellers. The prices we receive back that up and other clubs know it. |
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Post by wsmjohn on Aug 14, 2024 19:32:43 GMT
How can you judge a player after one game where he's probably giving 110%, let's see if they're still saying the same in a few months. Their not. They have seen him play 7 or 8 matches now including pre season. I don't think there's any doubt at all what they will be saying at the end of the season. He is an absolutely superb footballer and we had our pants pulled down. Last year of contract or not. Do you really think Peterborough would have accepted 500k for one of the top midfielders in league one last year of their contract or not? If we'd of held out and played hardball we'd have got much much more from Brum, Huddersfield, or a championship side. We are renowned panic sellers. The prices we receive back that up and other clubs know it. We don't know the release clause, I think he is nearer home playing at Huddersfield. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 14, 2024 19:34:42 GMT
Evo said he didn't want to join a Championship side and you can't just guess that Brum would have been interested or, even if they were, Evo would have considered joining them. If Huddersfield said take their offer or they'll sign another CM what are the owners supposed to do say "do one" then be stuck with nobody wanting to sign him when there's not many L1 clubs who are prepared to pay £500K for a CM, probably just Huddersfield, Brum & Bolton and they don't seem to be spending big this window.
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Post by woolavingtonpirate on Aug 14, 2024 19:36:16 GMT
Last season most of our goals came from or involved Collins (even if he was brought down or involved in the build up) an Evans pass or goal or Martin. Two of those players have gone and the other is injured. Even though we have recruited talent, we have not replaced that goal threat. In my opinion it is always a massive gamble when you sell the goals out of the team. History tells us a relegation normally follows, I will be ecstatic to be proven wrong, really hoping we break that cycle this season. I admit it's early days, hopefully when Martin is fit and the lad from Orient is up to speed we carry more threat
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Post by timsburygas on Aug 14, 2024 19:59:21 GMT
Anthony Evans was the best midfielder I saw in league one last season and i saw every team at least once. Not saying he was the best as stats will probably tell me im wrong but he was the best I saw. There is no replacing that unless you’re willing to spend upwards of a million pounds. It's what makes the fee received for him all the more pathetic and why Huddersfield fans cannot believe they only had to pay 500k having now witnessed him play. I have to be honest it genuinely baffles me that some on here think he’s not that all that, he’s one of the best players I’ve ever seen play for us. Technically a fantastic player but I loved the fact he was very tenacious and worked extremely hard for the team, a combination that is rare to find in attacking midfielders. We had our pants pulled down Evans one of the best players you ever seen play for us. He wouldn’t make my top 50 of midfielders, Anderson and Collins won us promotion, Evans didn’t stand out like those two and I don’t think anyone has stood out in a very poor league 1 team since. |
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Post by igotgas on Aug 14, 2024 19:59:52 GMT
I’m not underplaying his importance and his contributions went beyond just goals and assists but you’re in danger of overegging the importance a little.
Evans only scored 4 league goals from open play.
He’s thought of as a set piece expert but only scored one league goal from 16 attempts from a free kick.
He’s gone now. We lost 12 goal contributions. We have signed Soterio and Hutchinson who had 39 (16 and 23) league goal contributions between them.
Ones been injured and ones played one game! To say we haven’t or can’t replace him is premature.
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Post by wallywalters on Aug 14, 2024 20:23:42 GMT
Their not. They have seen him play 7 or 8 matches now including pre season. I don't think there's any doubt at all what they will be saying at the end of the season. He is an absolutely superb footballer and we had our pants pulled down. Last year of contract or not. Do you really think Peterborough would have accepted 500k for one of the top midfielders in league one last year of their contract or not? If we'd of held out and played hardball we'd have got much much more from Brum, Huddersfield, or a championship side. We are renowned panic sellers. The prices we receive back that up and other clubs know it. We don't know the release clause, I think he is nearer home playing at Huddersfield. There wasn't a release clause. |
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