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Post by olskooltoteender on Oct 9, 2024 13:57:10 GMT
It's supposed to ring true as somebody connected to MT is clearly feeding Roadman, virtually every post is critical of the owners but MT escapes any criticism, even though his whole time with us as been, mainly, appalling. Last season it was all JB's players fault, this season it's now the VP's fault, who's fault was it as Rotherham? If PC can't play twice in a week, then why risk our £500K striker in a meaningless cup game? The blokes an imposter who's found a friend in Roadman to cover up that he's totally out of his depth. Actually Topps, after reading a lot of his posts, I can see that Roadman is definitely not a fan of Taylor and has said so on numerous occasions. I doubt if he’s acting as a mouthpiece for him, just passing on the info he’s acquiring from his contact(s) at the club and around the EFL. |
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Post by roadman on Oct 9, 2024 13:58:36 GMT
It's supposed to ring true as somebody connected to MT is clearly feeding Roadman, virtually every post is critical of the owners but MT escapes any criticism, even though his whole time with us as been, mainly, appalling. Last season it was all JB's players fault, this season it's now the VP's fault, who's fault was it as Rotherham? If PC can't play twice in a week, then why risk our £500K striker in a meaningless cup game? The blokes an imposter who's found a friend in Roadman to cover up that he's totally out of his depth. Didn't he just say that he thought MT should be sacked? That's some connection to feed info to then post that. Roadman is connected in the football industry, having friends and family who are in the industry too I can tell you that everyone knows everything about everyone and everything. It's so incesteous that people talk. Agents, players, scouts, DOFs, club secretaries, PFA reps. So just because Paul has heard something it doesnt mean that it's come from someone close to MT. Put it this way, I heard pretty much copy and paste what Paul said from a player last week. So yes, there is a massive ring of truth to everything he's writing. Thank you, I personally sent you the photo at Posh away the other week sat next Barry Fry and a gentleman between me and Sir Alex Ferguson, I also sent this to Claremont Gas on here. Football is a small world, Lee Johnson was watching us at be behind closed doors game against Cheltenham reserves who battered us. He was also in conversation with George Friend, and he hasn’t told me anything either. |
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Post by igotgas on Oct 9, 2024 14:18:29 GMT
Was that when they battered us 2-2?
In what capacity was an out of work ex Bristol City manager doing there?
MT said various local clubs representatives were there but why would an out of work manager be there?
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Post by yattongas on Oct 9, 2024 14:28:20 GMT
Was that when they battered us 2-2? In what capacity was an out of work ex Bristol City manager doing there? MT said various local clubs representatives were there but why would an out of work manager be there? He’s going to be our next manager…… then everyone will be happy 😆 |
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Post by lastminutewinner on Oct 9, 2024 14:34:07 GMT
Coughlan's Rovers side did lose at home against Bolton's kids (possibly 2-0), who everyone else were thumping each week They did and ended another twelve game winless run. So roversy You could see if happening a mile off. Even Coughlan-ball couldnt stop it |
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Post by Henbury Gas on Oct 9, 2024 14:35:31 GMT
Was that when they battered us 2-2? In what capacity was an out of work ex Bristol City manager doing there? MT said various local clubs representatives were there but why would an out of work manager be there? He’s going to be our next manager…… then everyone will be happy 😆 We could have a Farther/son Management team, just like our owners ! Bring it on |
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Post by roadman on Oct 9, 2024 14:40:09 GMT
Was that when they battered us 2-2? In what capacity was an out of work ex Bristol City manager doing there? MT said various local clubs representatives were there but why would an out of work manager be there? I was told it was lucky to be the score it and their reserves should have beaten us by a lot more, battered maybe the wrong word. Lee there with his Father and Uncle, been up to Man City as well doing sessions with their U18’s and 21’s. Matty Taylor recently told me Lee is the best coach he’s ever played under his level is at elite in this area, DC’s was boring at times but his man management was another level to Johnson’s. We turned down Bodin this summer who wanted to come back as did Ellis. |
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Post by DrFaustus on Oct 9, 2024 14:40:45 GMT
Few unnecessary comments on this thread. Pirate and Road Bloke Paul are probably right, Mr T ain't up for the job.
However, Paul has been right on many occasions regarding inside knowledge and there's nothing to suggest he's not right again. It's highly believable that someone from the privileged class of Kuwait would behave in such a self-entitled, boorish manner.
I for one, feel sorry for Mr T.
UTFG and stuff the owners. 🏴☠️
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Post by igotgas on Oct 9, 2024 14:48:50 GMT
]I was told it was lucky to be the score it and their reserves should have beaten us by a lot more, battered maybe the wrong word. I was told it was a very competitive game with both sides a mixture of first team players and fringe players and that the fringe players from both sides had a right go which was what made it competitive and it was a positive game all round. Shame MT wasn’t big enough to say so publicly much like he showed his dissent last night. But maybe that wouldn’t have fitted his narrative and he’s most definitely not in the camp of boosting players confidence is he. |
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Post by yattongas on Oct 9, 2024 14:48:54 GMT
So lads & lasses ….. who we blaming ? Taylor because he’s a PE teacher and useless or the owners because the son is picking the team ?
Just wanna get things straight .
Oh hang on…..forgot …. Is it the players who are sh1te ?
#confused
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Post by igotgas on Oct 9, 2024 14:50:47 GMT
So lads & lasses ….. who we blaming ? Taylor because he’s a PE teacher and useless or the owners because the son is picking the team ? Just wanna get things straight . Oh hang on…..forgot …. Is it the players who are sh1te ? #confused I don’t think the players are sh**e. I think the manager has an agenda which is driving his media and he has no idea whatsoever on how to use a certain type of player or get the best out of people. |
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Post by madgas on Oct 9, 2024 14:56:51 GMT
Respect what the OP has previously shared. But I didn't infer the same from the interview.
I think it's clear that the squad is packed full of players that don't quite understand the type of player or role they want to be. Too many maybe players.
We lack knowhow, majorly. I think Taylor is merely speaking truth.
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Post by roadman on Oct 9, 2024 14:59:38 GMT
Bit of both Yatts and Igot for me……….owners clearing having to much of a say and a manager out of his depth and looking for the boot now. The managers tactics are dark ages stuff at times, if he’s a coach as well, coach the players, he’s not doing this well.
What I was told re the Chelts game was what the manager eluded to last night, did you hear what he said, he referenced this against their reserves. Hands up, maybe battered was the wrong word.
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Post by igotgas on Oct 9, 2024 15:08:54 GMT
Bit of both Yatts and Igot for me……….owners clearing having to much of a say and a manager out of his depth and looking for the boot now. The managers tactics are dark ages stuff at times, if he’s a coach as well, coach the players, he’s not doing this well. What I was told re the Chelts game was what the manager eluded to last night, did you hear what he said, he referenced this against their reserves. Hands up, maybe battered was the wrong word. Very easy to refer to it as their ‘reserves’ when it suits you (MT not you as such!) to make a certain point. As does calling a 2-2 draw a “loss”…..just to make a point…. Fact is it was two squads of fringe players, players needing minutes and some youngsters. Just like all behind closed doors fixtures. Ryan Bowman scored both their goals and I know Liam Kinsella also played. Our side looked similar to last nights but also included Hunt and Forde but not Macca / Thomas / Shaw who’d all played on the Saturday v Peterborough. |
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Post by yattongas on Oct 9, 2024 15:13:22 GMT
Bit of both Yatts and Igot for me……….owners clearing having to much of a say and a manager out of his depth and looking for the boot now. The managers tactics are dark ages stuff at times, if he’s a coach as well, coach the players, he’s not doing this well. What I was told re the Chelts game was what the manager eluded to last night, did you hear what he said, he referenced this against their reserves. Hands up, maybe battered was the wrong word. Really ? A manager looking for the boot . Ok….. so he’ll get a decent pay off for his 3 (?) yr contract, but that will be two sackings in a short spell and his managerial stock will slip rapidly. Would he even get another job and if he does at what level ? This is all a bit conspiratorial for me 😂 |
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Post by GasAttacK on Oct 9, 2024 15:27:03 GMT
Bit of both Yatts and Igot for me……….owners clearing having to much of a say and a manager out of his depth and looking for the boot now. The managers tactics are dark ages stuff at times, if he’s a coach as well, coach the players, he’s not doing this well. What I was told re the Chelts game was what the manager eluded to last night, did you hear what he said, he referenced this against their reserves. Hands up, maybe battered was the wrong word. Based on performances, comments on here from posters like yourself, and recent interviews with MT, I tend to agree. I think he is managing with his hands tied behind his back to some extent, but bottom line, performances haven't been good enough and tactics questionable at best. Often not clear what our tactics are. I would have accepted 18th upward at the start of the season, but unless performances improve I'm not convinced we can stay clear of the bottom 4. I'm not sure how involved Taylor was in the recruitment process, but I'm pretty sure he'd have liked more experienced pros and leaders given the choice. There clearly has been a certain amount of interference from above which hasn't helped. I wouldn't be sorry to see MT sacked and listenning to his interview last night, I don't think he'd be too upset either. It probably is time for a change, but how confident are we the board would make the right appointment, and what managers could we realistically attract who would want to work with them? |
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Post by roadman on Oct 9, 2024 15:35:43 GMT
Bit of both Yatts and Igot for me……….owners clearing having to much of a say and a manager out of his depth and looking for the boot now. The managers tactics are dark ages stuff at times, if he’s a coach as well, coach the players, he’s not doing this well. What I was told re the Chelts game was what the manager eluded to last night, did you hear what he said, he referenced this against their reserves. Hands up, maybe battered was the wrong word. Really ? A manager looking for the boot . Ok….. so he’ll get a decent pay off for his 3 (?) yr contract, but that will be two sackings in a short spell and his managerial stock will slip rapidly. Would he even get another job and if he does at what level ? This is all a bit conspiratorial for me 😂 He’d be on a deal I imagine of 1 year pay or until he takes another job. Does he need the abuse he got when we lost to Wycombe, under pressure to play certain players, he did a DC last night when he started publicly saying stuff aimed at Hamer and Hani, in the end it got him the sack. You’d rather be sacked and spin it that he was being told what to do then be sacked for bad results and management. Personally I thought his comments were unprofessional and divisive. Go via the PFA and speak to your employers privately, he’s basically split the squad in two areas, ones he’s can trust and his senior pros and ones he doesn’t like or trust, we all know who these are now from last night. Imagine the training camp now midweek, and I say all this as it’s as if he’s waving the white flag and throwing in the towel. |
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Post by madgas on Oct 9, 2024 15:39:02 GMT
I feel for the guy. Think he's better than some suggest but the hand has been tough.
- coming in after a 5 week process. Raises expectation.
- following a manager that (on the pitch) was not failing, but mediocrity was deemed not good enough. Added to the expectation.
- the owner suggesting he wanted a man with championship pedigree built expectation.
- interference from above on who should play impacts morale.
- vetoed on signings; tied his hands.
In reality, I think Rovers and Taylor are probably well matched. But we appear to be undergoing a bit of identity drama. Not surprising following the JB fallout and becoming a Rich-mans new toy.
I hope he can turn it around, but the ownership has some real soul searching to do.
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Post by madgas on Oct 9, 2024 15:47:35 GMT
Really ? A manager looking for the boot . Ok….. so he’ll get a decent pay off for his 3 (?) yr contract, but that will be two sackings in a short spell and his managerial stock will slip rapidly. Would he even get another job and if he does at what level ? This is all a bit conspiratorial for me 😂 He’d be on a deal I imagine of 1 year pay or until he takes another job. Does he need the abuse he got when we lost to Wycombe, under pressure to play certain players, he did a DC last night when he started publicly saying stuff aimed at Hamer and Hani, in the end it got him the sack. You’d rather be sacked and spin it that he was being told what to do then be sacked for bad results and management. Personally I thought his comments were unprofessional and divisive. Go via the PFA and speak to your employers privately, he’s basically split the squad in two areas, ones he’s can trust and his senior pros and ones he doesn’t like or trust, we all know who these are now from last night. Imagine the training camp now midweek, and I say all this as it’s as if he’s waving the white flag and throwing in the towel. Think the comments were fine. He was never personal. In fact, on Hall he tried his best to steer away from the insinuation. For me- you shouldn't criticise individuals publicly but after getting hammered by a team in the division below, it would be wrong to protect from criticism. |
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Post by madgas on Oct 9, 2024 16:06:37 GMT
Just appears there's an expectation gap between the supporters, management and ownership.
The ownership hired a manager with a brilliant track record of developing academy prospects. But that's quite different to developing players from other academies. When you invest in talent- the pressure to see quicker pitch dividends.
MT is a serious manager that wants to pick a serious football team, each week. He needs the senior players. Its a small management group. For Rovers to achieve the unlikely (top 6) we've got to be the hardest working and most intelligent football team out there. It takes a indefinite amount of time for the penny to drop with prospects. A Finley type would have been gold dust to this squad.
The supporters have been sold a frankensteins monster of a dream too many times. We can see so much potential but we are too savy or familiar to expect everything to click at once. We've got 3 loans that seldom play, why did we release some talented seniority in June? On top of this, our outward loan appears to be pulling up trees elsewhere. Most fans would accept what were getting served if sweeter dishes werent constantly teased.
It doesn't look joined up.
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