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Post by yattongas on Oct 9, 2024 21:18:54 GMT
The owners son was at the first Q&A . There’s only been two to my knowledge so far. I guess you're happy with the total lack of communication since the summer when Abdullatif attended his one and only Q&A? It's still a complete mystery why there was such a rush to hold the last Q&A, where TG's replacement couldn't even answer a question about the new TV gantry, which now seems on indefinite hold. You can guess what you like Topper my old bean 🙄😂 |
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Post by philrtid on Oct 10, 2024 23:29:07 GMT
He said we are learning about Promise’s body, he never said he was injured, he indicated he can’t play twice a week, listen to it. Friend’s age is relevant and experience, compare him to Barry Fry and Lennie Lawrence or Perryman at Exeter. Most people work their way up to a DOF role, basically running the football operation of a club. He didn’t throw the game, he has to keep players happy and the board. I know for a fact, no JFK conspiracy theory here that Hutchinson agent is going mad at the person who signed and did the deal with him. He doesn’t want to start half those players, some are sulking around the training ground “it will be interesting what people think of the squad now”. This is, there you go Abdul, I’ve given such and such a go, look at how he played and you signed him?!?! And therein lies the problem, a part owner who hasn't got a clue. |
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Post by philrtid on Oct 10, 2024 23:38:18 GMT
I said last night that there is something rotten at this football club. The performance and interviews of MT and TM testify to this. One thing we should do is recognise "the truth" from the game last night. I would not pick Luke Thomas (the sulker), Hutchinson or Garrett again. Set the professionsl sporting bar at a reasonable level and remove them. January - get rid. Those 3 were an absolute disgrace last night. George Friend has a lot to account for as well. Where were the character and fitness references done on Hutchinson, Garrett and Omochere? I agree with everything you say here - sadly I will add Connor Taylor to the list - he appears to me to be just going through the motions. Probably as fed up with this as much as the rest of us are. Needs managed correctly! |
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Post by philrtid on Oct 10, 2024 23:55:28 GMT
Few unnecessary comments on this thread. Pirate and Road Bloke Paul are probably right, Mr T ain't up for the job. However, Paul has been right on many occasions regarding inside knowledge and there's nothing to suggest he's not right again. It's highly believable that someone from the privileged class of Kuwait would behave in such a self-entitled, boorish manner. I for one, feel sorry for Mr T. UTFG and stuff the owners. 🏴☠️ Problem is everyone seems afraid to ask anything of the owner, wtf is going on with the ground. The way the fans are treated just never improve. Is it time to get the bed sheets out? There communication has been worse than awful, can't wait to see the back of them tbh. Taylor hasn't been good but you can't manage someone elses signings if you haven't planned for them. |
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Post by singupgas on Oct 11, 2024 7:07:52 GMT
If there is any truth in the owners picking players we sign and getting involved in who is playing, that needs to stop.
What a mess.
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Post by supergas on Oct 11, 2024 7:55:34 GMT
So I think we can all agree Taylor is making a pigs ear of managing the team?! But I agree with previous posters, and I’ve said it myself before, there is something rotten at the club, wish I knew what it was, but players come here with good track records and have massively underachieved, not just season for a long period now. Are they being promised things (training ground, stadium rebuild etc) which they can quite quickly see is not happening and get disillusioned?? I don’t know but it goes far deeper than the manager I have my doubts whether the ground will get rebuilt, they can talk the talk can they walk the walk? Time will tell ...more than a few in recent years have left the club after underperforming with us and quickly go onto bigger and better things elsewhere... Some of the things I would have suggested as a root-cause 5+ years ago have now been fixed (for example training facilities being well below-par) and more often than not we have had positives like a good pitch at home as well as large crowds. I can't imagine any player (young or old) comes to the club this season and expects to change in/play in front of new stands whilst still under their initial contract so again not sure why that would disillusion them. Maybe those who do the various Rovers-related podcasts and other social media could try to track down some recent players and ask difficult questions like this... |
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Post by igotgas on Oct 11, 2024 10:27:20 GMT
I said last night that there is something rotten at this football club. The performance and interviews of MT and TM testify to this. The only thing rotten is the managers penchant for passing on blame. His post match interview was in my opinion a direct response to his ego being pricked when the fans clapped the players and then turned to boos when he approached. It irked him. Maybe fairly enough but his response was self preservation and to take it out on HIS players One thing we should do is recognise "the truth" from the game last night. I would not pick Luke Thomas (the sulker), Hutchinson or Garrett again. Set the professionsl sporting bar at a reasonable level and remove them. January - get rid. Those 3 were an absolute disgrace last night. An absolute disgrace? Are you sure? In what respect? Because they played poorly? Because they didn’t meet your expectations of a result? If you think they didn’t work hard, what evidence do you have for that? Do you have access to the GPS read outs? All three of those players put in more effort than Donker or Promise, both of whom couldn’t wait to come off. But they escape criticism because they’re deemed regular first team players and not one of the so called “fringe” players. Embarrassing comment. George Friend has a lot to account for as well. Where were the character and fitness references done on Hutchinson, Garrett and Omochere? Here are some comments you, a number of fans and Matt Taylor could do with re reading…all from Matt Taylor himself about pre season, the signings, the homework they did and how happy he was…. "We’ve been generally pleased with what we’ve seen in pre-season. That’s testament to the planning done by Tom Short and our strength and conditioning team at the Club, and the medical group as well, because the lads certainly seem to be in a good place, fitness-wise, as we head into the first game of the season." Spent now if he complaining about lack of fitness? Easy excuse? Or has he mismanaged the programme since then? Both? “the signings have come at different stages throughout the window too. So nothing has been perfect but in terms of the way the group has gone about it, the mindset and intent of the players and the staff and the whole Club, I think it’s been positive." But now after a loss where he got stick he’s resorting to questioning the mindset and intent of the players? “But, even before the signings were made and we did the references and character checks, we want big on the character aspect. That’s because we wanted the right people at this football club. First and foremost, we wanted winners, and we wanted players who have got the potential to improve, but have also got an almost desperation to do well” So they did character checks and they went BIG on the character aspect….and were happy with what they found. What’s changed then Matt? Maybe how they’ve been treated? Maybe how they’ve been coached? I always feel that you struggle to actually change someone’s character so if that wasn’t in question then why is it now? “I have to say, George and the board have been incredible in terms of their support but also their understanding of certain situations” Oh so you were quite happy with how they approached it and with how they worked? Now you’re under pressure you want to throw everyone else including YOUR players under the bus? "With that, you get the right group with the majority thinking the right things. There’s a hunger aspect there that underlines what we want to achieve. As I’ve said, they will need a bit of time. It’s a young group and we’ll have to be patient with them. I will need to support them as best as I can and give them as much guidance as I can” Well this last one makes me laugh out loud. Where and when do you think you’ve supported and guided them? They look destroyed under your “guidance”. |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Oct 11, 2024 12:45:59 GMT
I said last night that there is something rotten at this football club. The performance and interviews of MT and TM testify to this. The only thing rotten is the managers penchant for passing on blame. His post match interview was in my opinion a direct response to his ego being pricked when the fans clapped the players and then turned to boos when he approached. It irked him. Maybe fairly enough but his response was self preservation and to take it out on HIS players One thing we should do is recognise "the truth" from the game last night. I would not pick Luke Thomas (the sulker), Hutchinson or Garrett again. Set the professionsl sporting bar at a reasonable level and remove them. January - get rid. Those 3 were an absolute disgrace last night. An absolute disgrace? Are you sure? In what respect? Because they played poorly? Because they didn’t meet your expectations of a result? If you think they didn’t work hard, what evidence do you have for that? Do you have access to the GPS read outs? All three of those players put in more effort than Donker or Promise, both of whom couldn’t wait to come off. But they escape criticism because they’re deemed regular first team players and not one of the so called “fringe” players. Embarrassing comment. George Friend has a lot to account for as well. Where were the character and fitness references done on Hutchinson, Garrett and Omochere? Here are some comments you, a number of fans and Matt Taylor could do with re reading…all from Matt Taylor himself about pre season, the signings, the homework they did and how happy he was…. "We’ve been generally pleased with what we’ve seen in pre-season. That’s testament to the planning done by Tom Short and our strength and conditioning team at the Club, and the medical group as well, because the lads certainly seem to be in a good place, fitness-wise, as we head into the first game of the season." Spent now if he complaining about lack of fitness? Easy excuse? Or has he mismanaged the programme since then? Both? “the signings have come at different stages throughout the window too. So nothing has been perfect but in terms of the way the group has gone about it, the mindset and intent of the players and the staff and the whole Club, I think it’s been positive." But now after a loss where he got stick he’s resorting to questioning the mindset and intent of the players? “But, even before the signings were made and we did the references and character checks, we want big on the character aspect. That’s because we wanted the right people at this football club. First and foremost, we wanted winners, and we wanted players who have got the potential to improve, but have also got an almost desperation to do well” So they did character checks and they went BIG on the character aspect….and were happy with what they found. What’s changed then Matt? Maybe how they’ve been treated? Maybe how they’ve been coached? I always feel that you struggle to actually change someone’s character so if that wasn’t in question then why is it now? “I have to say, George and the board have been incredible in terms of their support but also their understanding of certain situations” Oh so you were quite happy with how they approached it and with how they worked? Now you’re under pressure you want to throw everyone else including YOUR players under the bus? "With that, you get the right group with the majority thinking the right things. There’s a hunger aspect there that underlines what we want to achieve. As I’ve said, they will need a bit of time. It’s a young group and we’ll have to be patient with them. I will need to support them as best as I can and give them as much guidance as I can” Well this last one makes me laugh out loud. Where and when do you think you’ve supported and guided them? They look destroyed under your “guidance”. I have to say, I wasn't in agreement with you, but what you've written here is pretty hard to pick apart and I think I'm close to having my mind changed. My take on the interview, for what it's worth, was that Taylor came across as someone who no longer gave a * and was intent on going down blazing as he (knows) feels his time with us is almost at an end. What I can't understand is this: The last 2 league games have been won and that's obviously a priority. Why didn't he just say something like "it's a competition where we can try things out, give some players minutes and see who is pushing for a place in the first 11. The result was disappointing and we have a better idea of where we are and what we need to work on in training going forward" There wasn't really any need for what I took as some really personal digs, especially off the back of 2 league wins. The players are hardly going to pull up trees for him after that, especially if they sense he is 2 games away from the door. |
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Post by toggsy2 on Oct 11, 2024 13:03:44 GMT
I never wanted MT to start with I've always said he was the wrong choice from day one but was prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt As for Barton as much as I liked his style of football he had to go simply for his off the field activity as he was becoming too much of a liability Not sure there were any major issues in that regard when he was dismissed, as by then he had successfully defended one trial and the other had been stayed indefinitely. JB clearly didn't fit the owners profile but I'm not sure his replacement fits it any better. I didn't agree with him pointing the finger at certain players as in Belly, Thomas, Trevor Clarke plus the comments regarding Steve Evans whilst true were not acceptable from him I think to be fair if they hadn't had sacked him there could have been a whole bigger issue with FA over the incident they had to be seen to being proactive over it, sacking him was the quickest and most direct action possible. Shame as I think the results would have come |
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 11, 2024 14:56:08 GMT
Not sure there were any major issues in that regard when he was dismissed, as by then he had successfully defended one trial and the other had been stayed indefinitely. JB clearly didn't fit the owners profile but I'm not sure his replacement fits it any better. I didn't agree with him pointing the finger at certain players as in Belly, Thomas, Trevor Clarke plus the comments regarding Steve Evans whilst true were not acceptable from him I think to be fair if they hadn't had sacked him there could have been a whole bigger issue with FA over the incident they had to be seen to being proactive over it, sacking him was the quickest and most direct action possible. Shame as I think the results would have come JB probably already knew his time was up before the Stevenage game it's ludicrous to suggest calling Evans "weeble" was behind his dismissal. |
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Post by toggsy2 on Oct 11, 2024 15:04:40 GMT
I didn't agree with him pointing the finger at certain players as in Belly, Thomas, Trevor Clarke plus the comments regarding Steve Evans whilst true were not acceptable from him I think to be fair if they hadn't had sacked him there could have been a whole bigger issue with FA over the incident they had to be seen to being proactive over it, sacking him was the quickest and most direct action possible. Shame as I think the results would have come JB probably already knew his time was up before the Stevenage game it's ludicrous to suggest calling Evans "weeble" was behind his dismissal. Your probably right it was just the excuse they needed to get shot the final nail in the coffin so to speak we all know what a wet wipe Evans is he would have made more out of it if JB had stayed in the job |
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Post by gasify on Oct 11, 2024 17:11:51 GMT
JB probably already knew his time was up before the Stevenage game it's ludicrous to suggest calling Evans "weeble" was behind his dismissal. Your probably right it was just the excuse they needed to get shot the final nail in the coffin so to speak we all know what a wet wipe Evans is he would have made more out of it if JB had stayed in the job That sounds a little bit like victim blaming. Evans is overweight - Fact Evans is a Weeble - Not fact, a remark made only to try to bully the opposition. What if Evans had come out for an interview and said "He is just a wife beater and should be back in jail"? On the basis of what you call 'fact', that is even more factual? However, it's not tge professional thing to do and even a manager of Stevenage knew that there are consequences in how you behave when representing your club. JB didn't understand that. He thought he was bigger than the club, he still thinks he is too. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 11, 2024 18:07:05 GMT
Your probably right it was just the excuse they needed to get shot the final nail in the coffin so to speak we all know what a wet wipe Evans is he would have made more out of it if JB had stayed in the job That sounds a little bit like victim blaming. Evans is overweight - Fact Evans is a Weeble - Not fact, a remark made only to try to bully the opposition. What if Evans had come out for an interview and said "He is just a wife beater and should be back in jail"? On the basis of what you call 'fact', that is even more factual? However, it's not tge professional thing to do and even a manager of Stevenage knew that there are consequences in how you behave when representing your club. JB didn't understand that. He thought he was bigger than the club, he still thinks he is too. Weal knew what he was getting when he appointed JB, do you believe JB was sacked for his post match comments about Evans or his card had probably been marked from day 1 by the new owners? It seems to me JB never fitted in with how they wanted to run the club. |
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Post by gashead79 on Oct 11, 2024 18:42:32 GMT
Your probably right it was just the excuse they needed to get shot the final nail in the coffin so to speak we all know what a wet wipe Evans is he would have made more out of it if JB had stayed in the job That sounds a little bit like victim blaming. Evans is overweight - Fact Evans is a Weeble - Not fact, a remark made only to try to bully the opposition. What if Evans had come out for an interview and said "He is just a wife beater and should be back in jail"? On the basis of what you call 'fact', that is even more factual? However, it's not tge professional thing to do and even a manager of Stevenage knew that there are consequences in how you behave when representing your club. JB didn't understand that. He thought he was bigger than the club, he still thinks he is too. JB probably is bigger than our club though! Worth more, got more followers, gets listened to, more style, less BS. |
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Post by olskooltoteender on Oct 11, 2024 18:59:58 GMT
That sounds a little bit like victim blaming. Evans is overweight - Fact Evans is a Weeble - Not fact, a remark made only to try to bully the opposition. What if Evans had come out for an interview and said "He is just a wife beater and should be back in jail"? On the basis of what you call 'fact', that is even more factual? However, it's not tge professional thing to do and even a manager of Stevenage knew that there are consequences in how you behave when representing your club. JB didn't understand that. He thought he was bigger than the club, he still thinks he is too. Weal knew what he was getting when he appointed JB, do you believe JB was sacked for his post match comments about Evans or his card had probably been marked from day 1 by the new owners? It seems to me JB never fitted in with how they wanted to run the club. That’s probably more the case |
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Post by baggins on Oct 11, 2024 19:03:31 GMT
That sounds a little bit like victim blaming. Evans is overweight - Fact Evans is a Weeble - Not fact, a remark made only to try to bully the opposition. What if Evans had come out for an interview and said "He is just a wife beater and should be back in jail"? On the basis of what you call 'fact', that is even more factual? However, it's not tge professional thing to do and even a manager of Stevenage knew that there are consequences in how you behave when representing your club. JB didn't understand that. He thought he was bigger than the club, he still thinks he is too. JB probably is bigger than our club though! Worth more, got more followers, gets listened to, more style, less BS. Um, JB worth more than BRFC? I don't think so. You think he's got style? Again, not feeling it. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 11, 2024 19:46:28 GMT
JB probably is bigger than our club though! Worth more, got more followers, gets listened to, more style, less BS. Um, JB worth more than BRFC? I don't think so. You think he's got style? Again, not feeling it. I can't work out whether the OP is taking the p, or is being serious, worrying I fear it might be the latter!! |
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Post by gasify on Oct 11, 2024 20:58:42 GMT
That sounds a little bit like victim blaming. Evans is overweight - Fact Evans is a Weeble - Not fact, a remark made only to try to bully the opposition. What if Evans had come out for an interview and said "He is just a wife beater and should be back in jail"? On the basis of what you call 'fact', that is even more factual? However, it's not tge professional thing to do and even a manager of Stevenage knew that there are consequences in how you behave when representing your club. JB didn't understand that. He thought he was bigger than the club, he still thinks he is too. Weal knew what he was getting when he appointed JB, do you believe JB was sacked for his post match comments about Evans or his card had probably been marked from day 1 by the new owners? It seems to me JB never fitted in with how they wanted to run the club. Do you really think calling am opposition manager a Fat Weeble is acceptable? |
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Post by gasify on Oct 11, 2024 21:00:41 GMT
That sounds a little bit like victim blaming. Evans is overweight - Fact Evans is a Weeble - Not fact, a remark made only to try to bully the opposition. What if Evans had come out for an interview and said "He is just a wife beater and should be back in jail"? On the basis of what you call 'fact', that is even more factual? However, it's not tge professional thing to do and even a manager of Stevenage knew that there are consequences in how you behave when representing your club. JB didn't understand that. He thought he was bigger than the club, he still thinks he is too. JB probably is bigger than our club though! Worth more, got more followers, gets listened to, more style, less BS. I don't believe that for a second. It saddens me that a fellow fan thinks that. |
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Post by singupgas on Oct 12, 2024 6:54:47 GMT
JB probably is bigger than our club though! Worth more, got more followers, gets listened to, more style, less BS. I don't believe that for a second. It saddens me that a fellow fan thinks that. Interested me, but on Instagram alone JB has 139k followers, Bristol Rovers 78k. Can't argue the money part, no nothing of Joey's wealth other than probably been paid quite well throughout his football career. Could say the same for our vacant owners, the fees for players all undisclosed and yet to see any significant investment in the ground. |
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