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Post by warehamgas on Apr 8, 2023 22:36:46 GMT
I hope you’re correct about it being a “99% done deal.” It would be fantastic if it were. But I thought that Conygar had agreed a £450,000 deal to make a planning application on the Fruit Market site, which may include a sports stadium but they have to have put in a planning application by 24.3.24. That is a fantastic first step and a sign of good intent from them and by Wael on behalf of BRFC. But a done deal? Probably not yet, but it’s great news. The done deal must be the intention to put plans into BCC for developing the FM site to include a stadium for us. I’m sure if I’m wrong someone will correct me. UTG! I can't imagine Congyer are going to spend money on two, or even more, different sets of planning applications, then decide at a later date which plans they'll proceed with once they obtain pp. Surely the only plans they'll seek pp on are those including a stadium if they've only got 12 months to submit the plans? So you agree it’s a “done deal.” Fair enough, I hope you’re right. But I’m sure we will have to meet certain conditions and play our part, financially, in part of the project. Won’t we? UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Apr 8, 2023 18:55:14 GMT
Does seem strange to come out now with something like this if it isn't 99% a done deal. He's been happy to keep quiet over the past 2.5 years. I hope you’re correct about it being a “99% done deal.” It would be fantastic if it were. But I thought that Conygar had agreed a £450,000 deal to make a planning application on the Fruit Market site, which may include a sports stadium but they have to have put in a planning application by 24.3.24. That is a fantastic first step and a sign of good intent from them and by Wael on behalf of BRFC. But a done deal? Probably not yet, but it’s great news. The done deal must be the intention to put plans into BCC for developing the FM site to include a stadium for us. I’m sure if I’m wrong someone will correct me. UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Apr 8, 2023 11:57:45 GMT
Tanks Sir Trev for bringing it to our attention, as you say TG really is an excellent communicator and i give him 10/10 for content and presentation, good stuff! Yes, although he gets some criticism I like the way communication has improved. I’ve been a bit outspoken on here about Wael and his unwillingness or inability to pass on information but I’ve always tried to keep TG out of it because on the couple of occasions I’ve emailed TG he has got back to me very quickly with the information or answer I was seeking. And I’d have said that TG has been very approachable and open in his role. And in his role of CEO I’d say he is improving and the way the matchday programme is being used is a way to do this. Has he put that stuff on the website? And I do like the way we’ve gradually improved in lots of ways regarding the fans, engagement and communication. Credit where credits due. Well done Tom, well done the club. 👏👏👏 UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Apr 8, 2023 11:42:49 GMT
To quote me earlier this year “I don’t think Luca is good enough for league 1 at present. He may become good enough but he’s young, we need a replacement and ease Luca in over a couple of years” Have to say, it hurts, having my words shoved up my ass. Don’t worry. You also said “at present” and he’s got better and better as a FB, so you were partly right. As a young player he’ll be more inconsistent but doing well in L1, as he’s done recently, is a lot harder than doing it in L2. one of the plusses of the season I think. But well done for making half an apology. (Well, I think that’s what it was.) 🤔 UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Apr 7, 2023 22:05:10 GMT
Thanks gasmount. 👍
UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Apr 7, 2023 21:44:11 GMT
Well, this was a good surprise after getting back from the cricket in Taunton. Obviously lots of stages to go through yet and after so many disappointments in the past I’ll probably wait until it’s more certain before celebrating. But it’s got to be good news so credit to everyone who’s got us to this stage. Fingers now crossed. When I first heard talk about a new ground for Rovers I was 👦 now many, many years later I’m 👨🦳. I hope I get to see it and sit in it esp given the time scale that might come with it. 👍
UTG!
ps. A win and this news. I’m not used to too much good news in one day!
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Post by warehamgas on Apr 7, 2023 13:56:51 GMT
I don't like Barton as a person, I don't like his morals or etiquette for trouble and I wouldn't have personally appointed him. That said, he's got our house in order on the footballing front and from that side of things, was probably the right man for the job as there wasnt much better available at the time. We missed the boat on Ian Evatt and Micheal Duff who were my first picks, but we were only in the market for free agents. I've never clapped Barton or celebrated him, but I wouldn't be so rude as to not thank him for his efforts. He clearly cares about the job he does here. Exactly how I feel. I can’t bring myself to sing his name but he has clearly done a good job, even if it never feels far away from the wheels falling off. Certainly hasn’t been boring! Yes, exactly that. After promotion, a small chance of the play offs pre-Christmas it’s been a decent season football wise. Lots of highs and several lows but it’s sometimes felt only a heartbeat away things going wrong. I’m inclined to think, after a couple of seasons with JB, that it will always be like that, JB seems to attract drama. UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Apr 7, 2023 11:25:43 GMT
Blackburn v Norwich. 2-1 Blackpool v Cardiff. 1-1 Q P R v Preston. 0-1 Accrington v Port Vale. 1-1 Gas v Charlton. 1-1 Exeter v Bolton. 1-2 Morecambe v Plymouth. 1-3 Oxturd v Sheff Wed. 0-2 Shrewsbury v Posh. 1-1 Swindon v Mansfield. 1-2 Kidderminster v Buxton. 1-1 Leamington v Hereford. 1-1
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Post by warehamgas on Apr 5, 2023 23:05:28 GMT
Lost 4-0 v relegation rivals ,they look doomed. Good, I never liked the attitude of their old chairman John Fry, patronising b*****d. No wonder their fans developed the same attitude. Come on holmes, you’re better than that! It’s a bit like saying any club who had a manager with a criminal record and a questionable record with regard to aggression will only have fans with similar attitudes. Glad we’re not in danger of that! 😉 UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Apr 5, 2023 22:59:57 GMT
Blimey, a lot of energy being used on here on hatred of Yeovil and the other forum. I think comparing us with Yeovil and taking pride in out performing them at the moment is a bit of a low bar. This obsession with Yeovil is pointless. Yeovil is a small town in Somerset who, for 10 years over achieved and pi**** us off because they often beat us. They have now reverted to a more natural level for them and they're unlikely to equal us in the near future so comparing us with them is a pointless exercise unless you’re going to start comparing us with Gateshead, Aldershot as well. I hope they survive in the NL this season.
UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Apr 5, 2023 22:48:43 GMT
Them on the other forum certainly It seems their latest target is TG, not sure what he's done to upset them, you do have to wonder it they really are fans who regularly attend games. Don’t be daft Topper. Perhaps one or two people not everyone. Probably more on here are critical. As many gasheads on there as there are on here. You love to stir it up and cause division.🤔 UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Apr 4, 2023 22:08:03 GMT
Again, where have I said that? Who’s “demanding”? But after 7 years I think fans have a right to ask questions, not accept the mantra, so often used as an answer, that “everyone is working very hard behind the scenes”. Unless people, leaders, those in power are questioned and held to account nothing changes. I think that would be wrong. But of course others have different opinions. It’s a forum. But seriously baggins, it’s always good to talk to you! 👍 UTG! You too Chap. You're wrong, but always interesting 😄 😀😀😀 UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Apr 4, 2023 22:04:28 GMT
You have to love the way posters want Wael questioned but offer no solutions as to how he's going to be questioned and what they'll do when he simply responds with "no comment" if they do manage to ask him the question.As far as debts increasing under Wael whilst losses are increasing I thought we were virtually debt free? I've no idea where he's getting the money from but he's clearly getting the money from somewhere. If that’s aimed at me Topper just say. I’ve got no solutions, I’d say develop the Mem but I appreciate why he said no. It’s not my responsibility to take decisions but it is the owners. And I would hope they have a plan. But by your comment it’s as if you’re saying Wael can’t be questioned because we can’t do anything about it if he says “no comment”. I suppose we can’t but I’m sure you’re not saying we can’t question or challenge him. Or are you? I thought this was a forum with different opinions. UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Apr 4, 2023 16:05:54 GMT
As I have good/bad days with moving around I spoke to someone in the club shop about changing my ST from terrace to seat in east stand. Was told to renew online and the facility would allow the later change. Email from ticket office regarding the same query gave me no reason to believe I could not do online. Now I have to go in person. Live miles away, doubt work will give me time off working from home. In addition, the club recently supplied an email address to report offensive comments to. Think it was the follow up to female ref allegedly receiving a few comments. I did message them about someone yelling out 'spastic'in earshot of a lot of fans. As an M.S. sufferer I was offended.... no, very upset. Emailed them. Anything back. No I sympathise with you. No idea if this would work but possibly email Tom G directly. I’ve done this a couple of times and had a prompt reply each time. These general email addresses that are given out are similar to generic emails and stuff like that. People get around to them when they can. Going straight to a named email usually makes it quicker. Whatever, good luck with what you’re trying to do. I guess although it’s very frustrating starting it early now gives you and them time to resolve the issue. UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Apr 4, 2023 15:53:56 GMT
Come on baggins, where did I say he hasn’t done more…. I didn’t. I do know he done more and I’ve said it several times. And recently I haven’t heard of any clubs going bust. Have you, if so who? Lots of other clubs with financial problems don’t have Wael and they’re still here. If he’s spending “as much as he can afford” (and I have no problem with that) why did he buy us when, had he done his homework, he would have known we need a new ground which then would have cost £20m+ (?). He knew he would have to spend major on a new ground. If he didn’t know that then his ability as an owner comes into question. We really have got to get away from those who will not allow any questioning of Wael and his ability to deliver on the new ground. If he can’t afford it then I’m afraid that’s his problem (although it’s probably our problem), he shouldn’t buy a football club needing major investment if that were the case. Let’s have a grown up discussion about the ground without any questioning of Wael being pounced upon as some kind of heresy. It really doesn’t help BRFC. UTG! So you want to line him up, forget about everything else, and demand a new Stadium. And if he can't deliver, line him up, forget about everything else, and demand why. Again, where have I said that? Who’s “demanding”? But after 7 years I think fans have a right to ask questions, not accept the mantra, so often used as an answer, that “everyone is working very hard behind the scenes”. Unless people, leaders, those in power are questioned and held to account nothing changes. I think that would be wrong. But of course others have different opinions. It’s a forum. But seriously baggins, it’s always good to talk to you! 👍 UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Apr 4, 2023 15:43:20 GMT
Come on baggins, where did I say he hasn’t done more…. I didn’t. I do know he done more and I’ve said it several times. And recently I haven’t heard of any clubs going bust. Have you, if so who? Lots of other clubs with financial problems don’t have Wael and they’re still here. If he’s spending “as much as he can afford” (and I have no problem with that) why did he buy us when, had he done his homework, he would have known we need a new ground which then would have cost £20m+ (?). He knew he would have to spend major on a new ground. If he didn’t know that then his ability as an owner comes into question. We really have got to get away from those who will not allow any questioning of Wael and his ability to deliver on the new ground. If he can’t afford it then I’m afraid that’s his problem (although it’s probably our problem), he shouldn’t buy a football club needing major investment if that were the case. Let’s have a grown up discussion about the ground without any questioning of Wael being pounced upon as some kind of heresy. It really doesn’t help BRFC. UTG! No problem having a genuine grown up discussion about infrastructure or lack of it. What I have witnessed on here over the years is that the smallest tidbit of negativity is amplified and span into something it doesn't need to be, arguably by some with certain motives for doing so. Because of this, those who are in the 'glass half full' camp have become more alert to this and find it tiresome and irritating, which leads to a questioning of hidden motives. Unfortunately, some with genuine interest in debating get caught up in that baggage. Stuart, I’m not sure what camp I’m in.🤔 All I can say is that I’m in the BRFC camp and thought that after so long a wait a new ground was likely to occur. All the things Wael said in 2016 were positive regarding the ‘new ground’. But apart from those two eve of season announcements, one very late on the Friday night before the Charlton opener in ‘17 and one at Blackpool in ‘19 re the FM we’ve had nothing. Our debt has increased and position wise we’re almost exactly the same. Of course there have been improvements but these will always be seen as less important to the major issue of the ground. And until that elephant in the room is removed we’ll likely meander around in League 1 / League 2 (hopefully not!) because of our inability to generate income. But what I won’t do is believe all the stuff about Wael being unable to be questioned and that he is the next best thing since sliced bread. People do not have to have a binary choice about him, there are considered positions in between. Hey ho. UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Apr 4, 2023 14:30:09 GMT
I see he is complaining 2 of Northampton's players should have been sent off. With a bit of luck some more decisions will go against him and he will spontaneously combust. Ugh! Tell me when and I’ll keep away. The fallout of that would spread far and wide. UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Apr 4, 2023 14:26:04 GMT
Yes, that’s great I hope he enjoyed it as much as I did. Wael’s a great guy and has been a good owner. But, I don’t want the owner of BRFC having to stand on the terrace to show his credentials, I want him to be dealing with the issues facing the club, developing the club to its potential and making sure the club is improving. That’s his job, not necessarily trying to be one of the fans. Perhaps I’m glad he does come over as a ‘fan’ but given what he said about the priority being a new ground in February 2016 the evidence for anything happening on that front is pretty flimsy. Standing on the terrace and smiling is pretty easy to do it’s the hard stuff we need happening. He may well be doing something and is about to astound us all with good news about a ground very soon but the evidence that that will happen is more about blind faith than anything else. Not that I can do anything about it except enjoy the journey which I do. But come on, Wael has to be judged on more than just standing on the terrace. He’s done lots of good things but the priority remains as it was in 2016, indeed it’s probably further away. UTG! He's done more than stand on the terraces and you know it. Read the news on how many Clubs are going bust? You think we'd still be around without him? I'm sure he's spending as much as he can afford. Come on baggins, where did I say he hasn’t done more…. I didn’t. I do know he done more and I’ve said it several times. And recently I haven’t heard of any clubs going bust. Have you, if so who? Lots of other clubs with financial problems don’t have Wael and they’re still here. If he’s spending “as much as he can afford” (and I have no problem with that) why did he buy us when, had he done his homework, he would have known we need a new ground which then would have cost £20m+ (?). He knew he would have to spend major on a new ground. If he didn’t know that then his ability as an owner comes into question. We really have got to get away from those who will not allow any questioning of Wael and his ability to deliver on the new ground. If he can’t afford it then I’m afraid that’s his problem (although it’s probably our problem), he shouldn’t buy a football club needing major investment if that were the case. Let’s have a grown up discussion about the ground without any questioning of Wael being pounced upon as some kind of heresy. It really doesn’t help BRFC. UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Apr 4, 2023 13:30:25 GMT
I doubt, I don't get the feeling that any good news is coming soon. Not sure Wael makes it to many games at all nowadays. He was stood on a soaking wet, windy and freezing cold terrace at Forest Green. Could have easily sat up in the stand or watched at home!! Yes, that’s great I hope he enjoyed it as much as I did. Wael’s a great guy and has been a good owner. But, I don’t want the owner of BRFC having to stand on the terrace to show his credentials, I want him to be dealing with the issues facing the club, developing the club to its potential and making sure the club is improving. That’s his job, not necessarily trying to be one of the fans. Perhaps I’m glad he does come over as a ‘fan’ but given what he said about the priority being a new ground in February 2016 the evidence for anything happening on that front is pretty flimsy. Standing on the terrace and smiling is pretty easy to do it’s the hard stuff we need happening. He may well be doing something and is about to astound us all with good news about a ground very soon but the evidence that that will happen is more about blind faith than anything else. Not that I can do anything about it except enjoy the journey which I do. But come on, Wael has to be judged on more than just standing on the terrace. He’s done lots of good things but the priority remains as it was in 2016, indeed it’s probably further away. UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Apr 2, 2023 12:36:02 GMT
Smacks of the ITV Digital thing all over again, even if it does go through, all the extra money will only go on more players wages. Yes I think I agree. It will happen if the money is there to do it. And they will skate over the consequences to the mid and long term future of lower league football. Once chairmen and owners see the gold they will have a very short term and blinkered view, ‘gimme the money’! When it happens it will be said to be in the ‘long term interest of football’ which means that no-one considered anything outside of the PL. And, as you say Somerset, the money will go straight out of the game into players (and agents) pockets and not to the real good of the clubs. Clubs will continue to overspend. I would fear for the well-being of the clubs outside of the EFL if it were to happen. They will struggle to attract attendances over and above their core support. Very sad when we already have almost blanket coverage of football already. But once it’s raised they’ll be no going back. UTG!
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