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Post by warehamgas on Mar 20, 2023 23:02:43 GMT
It’s a shambles he funked up after a matter of weeks in th job! But that isn’t the clubs fault is it, that’s the individual. I’ve interviewed and hired many people, some of them give a real good account of themselves and when they start they turn out to be your biggest mistake. You can never predict how a new employee will go. I’ve seen them all from brilliant and exemplary employees, to serial sickees and thieves but you try and differentiate them at interview and it’s tough. Yes 1981 some people interview very well but after conducting hundreds of interviews you need to be able to distinguish between what people say and the evidence for it in references etc. Mistakes can happen but I’d say in such a technical post such as a club secretary then the club should recognise that one of the criteria for the post should be a similar type of experience. I’d say at 21 he would not have had that. Im sure you’ve seen as many strange characters as I have in interviews and sometimes it’s what references don’t say and what they’ve obviously excluded that should be a warning sign. (I hope that the ‘serial sickees and thieves’ didn’t cost you too much!) UTG! ps. Come on mods combine these two club secretary threads.
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Post by warehamgas on Mar 20, 2023 22:47:49 GMT
In case you haven't seen the announcement on the website:- Bristol Rovers is pleased to announce the appointment of Jack Tomlinson as the club’s new secretary. At twenty-one years of age, Jack is the youngest secretary in the entire football league, but has already amassed experience in the same role at Oldham Athletic and Swindon Town. In his role, Jack will be responsible for an array of tasks, such as pre-match preparation, organising player travel and accommodation, ticketing, EFL compliance – including documentation, announcements and that all-important transfer paperwork – as well as general admin and everything required to ensure Rovers is run as efficiently as possible. Jack, who hails from The Wirral, said: “I’m really looking forward to getting started at Rovers. Once I got a call to come in and have a chat about the role, everything moved quickly. There will be a lot to get done, taking over from the previous Club Secretary, who had been in the role for over 20 years so, hopefully, I can bring a modern way of working into the club with new ideas.”Rovers CEO Tom Gorringe said: “We are delighted for Jack to be joining us. He fits the culture that we are trying to create here perfectly and his energy, experience and desire to push for continual improvement will no doubt benefit our football administration. "Despite his age, Jack has a wealth of experience and has already shown his value in his first week of service. Jack will no doubt be a big asset for the club over the coming years and I am sure you will all join me in welcoming him to the club and wishing him the best in his new role.” Club Website AnnouncementGood to have this very important role filled. It’s a very technical position ensuring regulations and EFL protocols are followed so I hope that he has enough experience and knowledge to do this. At 21 years of age he’s taken on a huge post and makes me think that many of the duties a secretary does may well be taken over by TG in the short term and that he will, for some time be secretary in name only and be shadowing TG. And this idea of bringing “a modern way of working” into the club. What’s that supposed to mean? Just because he’s 21 doesn’t necessarily mean he will bring modern ways just as someone in their 40s doesn’t mean they aren’t working in a “modern way.” Whatever “modern ways” mean. I’d say that making a comment like that gives away his inexperience. Best not to criticise, even by implication, your predecessor. And TG, I like you and what you’ve done and appreciate your willingness to communicate on those occasions I’ve had to email you but…. don’t tell me that anyone at the age of 21 has a “wealth of experience”. They may have had several experiences but no one at the age of 21 has had a wealth of experience! Anyway, good luck to him, I hope it goes well.UTG! My wish for it to go well obviously did not happen then. Oh dear! UTG! ps. Rather than a new thread perhaps we need to use the existing thread, not very old, to read previous pearls of wisdom about appointing a new club secretary. Mods, possibly combine the two?
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Post by warehamgas on Mar 20, 2023 18:13:25 GMT
It's lucky Liverpool is such a big city. If JB was from Chipping Sodbury we'd have run out of new players and staff ages ago. or Salisbury? or Coventry? 😉 UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Mar 19, 2023 23:08:20 GMT
You may know it but I suspect it’s not ‘common knowledge’. Still, it might be now. 🤔 UTG! Called Neil by many on the other forum, known to be a former director during the Twerton era, I guess it wouldn't be too hard to join the dots if you didn't know him personally. Perhaps, but again I’m not sure that means it’s ‘common knowledge’. I’m pretty sure that whenever someone’s first name is used that wouldn’t automatically mean they’d want their full name revealed even if others pretend to be Sherlock Holmes. UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Mar 19, 2023 22:54:30 GMT
We cann all know and except their isnt much to play for. (Not cut and dried yet though) For me the problem isnt so much he said it, its that he said just days after calling a player out for effort and expecting certain standards The manager is virtually saying he isnt going to put much effort in because there isnt much point. Dont demand x from your players and then give off the impression you cant be arsed yourself days later This!! I can’t understand how anyone can’t see this I’m no hater or lover, just someone who dedicates much time and effort to follow my club, and who wants the best for it I just wish he would engage his brain before opening his mouth, it’s not good to write off the season just yet!! Lose the next 3 or 4 and we will be in big trouble. Just dedicate all your efforts into galvanising the support and the players and then after the campaign analyse and see where we need to improve It feels like he’s good when winning, but doesn’t know how to handle poor runs. UTG Spot on. 👍 UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Mar 19, 2023 22:25:55 GMT
Ah ok , and Swiss ….. is that common knowledge? Yep. On both forums. You may know it but I suspect it’s not ‘common knowledge’. Still, it might be now. 🤔 UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Mar 17, 2023 23:52:54 GMT
Southampton v Spurs. 1-2 Wolves v Leeds. 1-1 Stoke v Norwich. 1-1 Sunderland v Luton. 2-0 Accrington v M K Dons. 1-1 Gas v Portsmouth. 1-1 Morecambe v Oxford. 0-2 Wycombe v Barnsley. 0-0 Carlisle v Stevenage. 1-1 Harrogate v Barrow. 1-1 Stockport v Mansfield. 2-0 Barnet v Notts County. 1-1
UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Mar 17, 2023 13:24:01 GMT
Just dug out the league table from 'that' season, despite the 8 at Brighton we were far from a free scoring side,! only 5 teams from tier 3 that season have gone on to better things and no less than 9 are playing non-league ! food for thought! just realised its nearly 1/2 a century ago!! Yes, we weren’t particularly free scoring and, without checking, probably scored less than in Bill Dodgin’s time but we were a stronger team and the midfield and defence were hard to breach and we were better at ‘managing games’ (sorry to use modern terms!) and saw out several single goal wins. That team: Eadie Jacobs. Taylor. Green. Parsons Dobson. Stanton. Prince. Stephens Warboys. Bannister with Fearnley, Staniforth, Rudge providing great support. I have checked and we had 4 players ever-present, Eadie, Jacobs, Stanton and Taylor 4 others in the 40s, Bannister, Green, Parsons and Prince. Dobson (39) Stephens (31) and Warboys (32) in the 30s Thats what you call a stable team. UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Mar 16, 2023 21:14:50 GMT
RIP Some wonderful memories of his team culminating in the Friday night at Southend where a goalless draw was enough to confirm promotion. Still bear a grudge against Wrexham for taking away our unbeaten run of 27 (32) games in 1974. Can you remember Jim Easdie winning an award for the most minutes of not conceding one goal ? We were hard to beat and had both flair and panache up front. Proper Eastville for entertainment Yes he was very good at organising his teams to be sound and hard to beat. Iirc that award big Jim got for not conceding came at the end of the previous season in March/April ‘74 when we could see that he was building a good team. He added Alan Warboys that Match to partner Bruce B and then got Trevor Jacobs in the Summer. Can’t remember exactly when he switched Mike Green to defence but it worked a treat. What I loved about those times was the way managers were given time to build a team and in the days before freedom of contract they could rely on not losing their best players for nothing. Yet with that team there were no standout players, they were an outstanding team. (At the end of 73/74 Warboys and Bannister were the outstanding players but we didn’t know that at the beginning of the season). UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Mar 16, 2023 12:31:39 GMT
www.thestar.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-wednesday/sheffield-wednesday-mourn-true-owls-legend-as-former-captain-don-megson-passes-away-4066952A true Rovers legend. That team of 73/74 was a great team. I can recite it in my dreams so regular did he pick them. Must have been 6/7 with over 40 or near to appearances. He turned the potential we had after so many near-misses in getting promotion to Division 2 into a reality. Promotion was never really in doubt, apart from a wobble in March ‘74. It was only our second ever promotion. I can just about remember our promotion team last season but that team of 73/74 I never forget. Some of the best football days in that season, the opening day 3-0 win at AFCB, when we could have been 2-0 down at half time, the 8-2 win at Brighton and the draw at Southend to clinch promotion. Great days. I guess tbh the football wasn’t as exciting as under Bill Dodgin but he got results with a much stronger defence. And of course when we got to Division 2 the board never truly backed him and he was always having to make the best of what he had. RIP Don, there are enough of us left to know how good you were and what memories you gave us. UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Mar 16, 2023 12:13:12 GMT
I appreciate his honesty, it would be easy to sit on the fence and try not to upset anyone. Football is a game of fine margins, a loss can usually be attributed to one or two pivotal moments during a game …generally he is spot on. Teams at the top usually find a way to win no matter what, because they are simply better. We have to accept this. The way to get to the top is grow or buy better players $$$$$, mould them into an effective team and hope they perform consistently. Then you don’t need to answer the question “ what went wrong this week Joe ?” I do as well, on most occasions. But the PL is not renowned for its honesty. You have players feigning injury, players diving, pundits refusing to condemn cheating, managers refusing to do the the same all of which has now filtered down. I don’t honestly think JB would have survived if he’d said what he has said here. So much in that league has been given an importance more than it is and is reported world-wide. UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Mar 16, 2023 10:02:12 GMT
Female officials have to take the same fitness test as blokes.When I was on the line I had to take a fitness test at Aston Uni.This was pre the 'Bleep Test' and was 6 and three quarters miles in 12 minutes followed by the sprint tests 15 minutes afterwards. A very well known ref failed his test but was still reffing the following season so guess he must have re taken it!!!! Sorry Colyton but… “6 and three quarter miles in 12 minutes….” Blimey that’s something. Ever thought about the Olympics! 😀😀😀 Or did I misread it! UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Mar 15, 2023 21:27:30 GMT
If someone said it takes him 5 years but he does finally take us up in 2028, would you take that scenario?? I think he sees us as his big chance to prove to himself that he should be taken seriously. We are a free hit. But he has to build over time, and I can see him being at the club for a good while. Why not? If he is producing good football and giving us progress that we can get on board with… Maybe a right club at the right time I do however believe that if he does a remarkable job and proves to be a success here, a lower placed basket case like Everton may well appeal…. UTG So do you think JB will manage in the PL? Seriously. We won’t be there by 2028 due to the ground plus a few hundred other things. The rest of your post I more or less said in my earlier post, and I’d suggest that atm we are his right club at the right time. When I said ‘other PL clubs’ I was including Everton. Despite his Everton links not greatly popular with Evertonians. Blimey, they have enough problems atm without worrying about what JB is going to say after another defeat! They know he’d start another war when it was the Merseyside derby. 😉 (Sorry that’s a bit hard but you get my drift?) UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Mar 15, 2023 18:30:39 GMT
I often contemplate whether the guy is destined to manage at the very topOn the one hand he is good at spotting young talent and giving them a chance On the other he seems to make the same mistakes. He could claim that todays game requires flexibility in formation changes but he takes it to the extreme!! League one is a pretty ruthless division and in my mind you need to be well drilled and organised. All this chopping and changing helps no one He certainly talks a good game, I think the proof will be next season. No excuses now, his players, his coaching. Hopefully he will have learnt what’s needed from the disastrous spells where we got bullied by the big ugly teams. It’s all very well playing free flowing footy but you need to be able to mix it up in this league He’s impressed me with staying (mostly) out of trouble, for this was what I feared would be his downfall. Just needs to focus on getting the right defensive shape because I don’t doubt his ability to find forward thinking players UTG UTBarton Seriously, do you really think JB will manage at ‘the very top?’ No PL would ever appoint him to manage them. I agree with much of the remainder of your post but JB will not manage in the PL. The clubs/owners wouldn’t dare risk their club with JB. They have too much invested with corporate firms to risk their assets on what JB might say or do. It will not happen. Speak to any fans associated with PL clubs and they would laugh at the thought of such a loose cannon being in charge of their club. Nowadays there’s just too much involved in the big clubs to risk the bad publicity that we have faced on numerous occasions over the past two years. BRFC can just about get away with reputational damage, PL clubs wouldn’t tolerate it and wouldn’t get away with such damage. Chairmen who are often representing the owners may not be making the decisions and owners wouldn’t tolerate his behaviour. Ryan Giggs did a decent job at Man U and Wales and has never been found guilty of anything but has not recovered from the reputational damage in the accusations he is still facing. It’s why JB likes Wael so much, imo, he knows Wael has been incredibly supportive when others wouldn’t have been. JB knows his success is linked closely to our success. UTG! edit: And that is all without the fallout we intermittently get with players who he calls out. I’ve no major problem with him doing it where deserved but I bet trying to do it with internationals or players on £20k+ at least is a lot less easier. And where we see managers have problems with players, it’s always the manager who goes. Ten Haag and Ronaldo is the exception to the rule, imo.
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Post by warehamgas on Mar 15, 2023 18:10:30 GMT
I think the gas are fairly safe and have done enough as there are teams lower down the league that are it worse position and form than the gas. 6 points should do it 9 to be certain. My favourites for the drop FGR, Cambridge, Morecombe and Oxford I think MK Dons and Accrington Stanley will survive by the skin of their teeth. Oxford and Accrington face off on the last day of season so it could come down to the last day It’s hard to predict what’s going to happen and which matches will be the vital or 6-pointers. But, if you are right and it did come down to that match it would be incredible. Back in the 1960s Accrington went out of the league to be replaced by Oxford. Fast forward to 2006 (?) and Oxford were relegated out of the EFL to be replaced by Accrington. It would be uncanny if you were right Toggsy, those two clubs are strangely linked by their history. UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Mar 14, 2023 18:52:48 GMT
Cant get there tonight - A levels Mocks in full flow so in a show of solidarity if my guys don't go - Dad doesn't go. ( Actually its the wifes view more than solidarity)However will be watching on I Follow via Sydney Australia and looking forward to seeing if we have turned a corner or it is in fact a roundabout of despair. Nothing to fear against this lot of time wasting cheats - even their commentary team earlier in the season predicted when there keeper was going to start his delay feigned injury antics - we owe them so much and hopefully tonight we mess up their very unlikely promotion push Same team for me - with Sammy on the bench ahead of he who shall not be named. Could be a Marshy again tonight - Fancy Bogarde and Quansah to be on the score sheet - will check the sky bet odds on each. Luca usually worth 50p any time as well. Yes, I’m sure many of us have been there even if it was 20+ years ago, you’re not alone! 😉 It happens. UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Mar 14, 2023 18:35:22 GMT
What a load of cods wallop. I just watched “MOTD2” and it was dull without commentary or pundits. I can only assume all you people who say they prefer it without also prefer newspapers to just print photographs and scores? Whole situation sums up the pathetic state of affairs we have in this country currently - an absolute shambles. I think that people enjoyed the novelty of the format, but wouldn't want it every week. I'd certainly like a bit less punditry, and a refresh of the actual pundits to people who are more relevant to today's game (not including Lineker in that, as he is a presenter and facilitates the discussions). I quite enjoyed it as well but I know that if it were to be like that all the time it would just be a constant itch that highlighted the whole issue. Something I bet the BBC want to forget as quickly as possible. And I know someone with sight impairment who needs and enjoys the commentary with matches and loves all the punditry. They do not have a wide range of choices to access football so the BBC is a bit of a life-saver for him. UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Mar 14, 2023 18:30:02 GMT
Bring back ceefax. The suspense when the page freezes or doesn't show properly due to poor tv signal. Oh the joy Ha ha those were the days. What about the teleprinter? Coleman stood over at it started to type. "Div 3. Mansfield Town 1 Bristol Rovers....(pregnant pause, seemed like forever) 3 Cue feelings of joy and a run down the shops to get the Green Un. Halcyon days. Indeed. Those were great moments, when it went our way. It didn’t always. UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Mar 13, 2023 19:48:00 GMT
Presuming we stay up and I’m sure we will, we will need another re-set having been dependent upon loans again. And that is not a criticism just a statement of fact. However we do it I hope JB can build a squad that will compete for the play-offs. They don’t need to achieve it but a serious challenge would give us a good season. To put in that challenge I think we will need - another good pairing at CH - 2 central midfielders - a goal scoring No. 9 I haven’t said who those players should be but I would be pleased to see Quansah, Bogarde and Gibson or even Coburn return, however unlikely they may be. Whatever happened with Bobby Thomas this season after last season’s Elliot A and our loans this season doing so well I think JB will be able to get some decent players from higher clubs that will benefit us.
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Post by warehamgas on Mar 12, 2023 14:13:09 GMT
For information and clarity: I believe the ‘holocaust’ was a German policy developed at the Wannsee Conference in January 1941 when the higher level Nazis, those just below Himmler and Hitler met to develop the policy of exterminating the Jews. It set in train the next 4 years. Hideous. Some of those present and involved in the policy were members of local government and West German politics in the 1960s. Wannsee is a suburb of Berlin. UTG! Sorry to be a pedant but Wannsee was Jan 1942. I apologise you are correct. 👍 UTG!
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