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Post by LJG on Jul 29, 2017 7:51:36 GMT
linkGreat article looking at possible reasons why we don't get more fans with BAME backgrounds turning up at the Mem You are Jack Newcombe or Maff Tucker and I claim my five pounds. (The article was poorly written and terribly devised).
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Post by countygroundhotel on Jul 29, 2017 10:56:36 GMT
Its hard not to notice how different a crowd of people at a rovers match is compared to a crowd in a supermarket or at the mall. In the latter places i encounter diversity in race and language but in a football ground almost no diversity. Just from a commercial point of view it must be worth the club launching some sort of project to change this situation. If tesco had the same situation they would try and do something about it to increase their profits so why not bristol rovers? You have to buy food, you don't have to go to a football match..... Hard to believe how dense some people are isn't it. But I think butterfly was the one on the other forum trying to suggest some sort of discrimination in favour of Muslims. Strangely though he works with some he thinks like football but he won't even go out of his way to invite them along to Rovers.
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Post by William Wilson on Jul 29, 2017 12:50:19 GMT
You have to buy food, you don't have to go to a football match..... Hard to believe how dense some people are isn't it. But I think butterfly was the one on the other forum trying to suggest some sort of discrimination in favour of Muslims. Strangely though he works with some he thinks like football but he won't even go out of his way to invite them along to Rovers. I work at the same place as BB. I know the people he refers to. If you were to suggest to them, that they part with some of their hard earned dosh by coming along to watch Bristol Rovers, they`d laugh their bollocks off. They "support" the likes of Man U, Liverpool, Chelsea etc, for one reason only. They want to be associated with success. If a team is going to lose more than half a dozen games a season, you`ve got no chance of persuading them to go and watch.
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Post by northseagas on Jul 29, 2017 13:21:43 GMT
why is the question being asked "What are Rovers doing about the imbalance" its not down to rovers having to address the imbalance. with BAME populations , they know where the ground is and if they want to watch football then they will turn up to games.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jul 29, 2017 13:33:46 GMT
Why do we have MOBOs and not MOWOs?
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Post by countygroundhotel on Jul 29, 2017 14:58:47 GMT
Hard to believe how dense some people are isn't it. But I think butterfly was the one on the other forum trying to suggest some sort of discrimination in favour of Muslims. Strangely though he works with some he thinks like football but he won't even go out of his way to invite them along to Rovers. I work at the same place as BB. I know the people he refers to. If you were to suggest to them, that they part with some of their hard earned dosh by coming along to watch Bristol Rovers, they`d laugh their bollocks off. They "support" the likes of Man U, Liverpool, Chelsea etc, for one reason only. They want to be associated with success. If a team is going to lose more than half a dozen games a season, you`ve got no chance of persuading them to go and watch. Exactly
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Post by rocknrollaayatollah on Jul 29, 2017 15:12:10 GMT
You can tell by the replys on this thread that this forum consists mainly of white males aged 40+.
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Post by newmarketgas on Jul 29, 2017 15:31:19 GMT
You can tell by the replys on this thread that this forum consists mainly of white males aged 30+. Yes, you are correct, it has been pretty sensible with only a few childish virtue signalling comments.
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Post by drasim on Jul 29, 2017 15:33:06 GMT
You can tell by the replys on this thread that this forum consists mainly of white males aged 40+. What made you go from 30+ to 40+?
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Post by rocknrollaayatollah on Jul 29, 2017 15:38:30 GMT
You can tell by the replys on this thread that this forum consists mainly of white males aged 40+. What made you go from 30+ to 40+? I was meant to put 40 originally, then noticed I had put 30.
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Post by drasim on Jul 29, 2017 15:43:10 GMT
What made you go from 30+ to 40+? I was meant to put 40 originally, then noticed I had put 30. An interesting statistic, from a small Yougov dataset the average Rovers supporter is 55+, male and politically left.
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Post by lympstonegas on Jul 29, 2017 15:58:55 GMT
Always sits uncomfortable with me when I see articles which highlight diversity/homophobia etc unnecessarily. We're not racist, if you want to come, black, white, asian or green then come and watch us, end of. Except when certain people in the thatchers end shout at a black keeper ? Every teams fan base will always include those that hold some prejudice against other minority groups - even if it's just the Welsh
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jul 29, 2017 15:59:36 GMT
An interesting statistic, from a small Yougov dataset the average Rovers supporter is 55+... Blimey, that doesn't bode well for the future. Maybe we should be putting more effort into attracting youngsters.
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Post by lympstonegas on Jul 29, 2017 16:04:53 GMT
Youngsters from all ethnic and diversity groups full stop
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jul 29, 2017 16:09:45 GMT
Always sits uncomfortable with me when I see articles which highlight diversity/homophobia etc unnecessarily. We're not racist, if you want to come, black, white, asian or green then come and watch us, end of. Except when certain people in the thatchers end shout at a black keeper ? Every teams fan base will always include those that hold some prejudice against other minority groups - even if it's just the Welsh The Welsh don't count. They are racially subhuman. True story, I saw that Brian Cocks fellow say as much on The One Show.
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Post by drasim on Jul 29, 2017 16:30:45 GMT
An interesting statistic, from a small Yougov dataset the average Rovers supporter is 55+... Blimey, that doesn't bode well for the future. Maybe we should be putting more effort into attracting youngsters. I think that's going to be a challenge for most clubs in the lower divisions. Trends of families going to football matches have been downwards for decades, but also some studies have shown that teenagers are increasingly growing out of watching football.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Jul 29, 2017 16:49:45 GMT
After reading this thread I am delighted that the silly little dance group aren't throwing an event at the Mem.
In all seriousness though this is surprising because going by those stats I reckon I've met 50% of our 'BAME' supporters which is really interesting because I'm really not a sociable person and I'm hardly trying to view matches from every single spot in the ground. Interestingly, they turned out to be some of our most passionate supporters and I had a right laugh with them.
The best way to be equal and diverse and not water anyone off is to treat everyone as if they're equal human beings and not target certain groups. I'm pleased to see that we appear to be doing that. Our public bodies would be well placed to follow suite.
That's not to say we can't target the root cause and do something about this. I think this is part of a general problem in football, which effects our city particularly, that kids grow up aspiring to be Lionel Messi and not Billy Bodin.
When I was a kid I happened to go on a 'soccer funday' with the club, at my local school, and I got a wagon wheel (which I wasn't too excited about personally) and a free ticket to watch rovers. Luckily my dad happened to be a gashead when he was younger and would take us to some of the bigger events such as Wembley in 95. So we went along to one match just when we had just moved back to the Mem, and that quickly became a whole number of matches. The next thing we know my brother is bringing his mate along who ha a great time listening to some of the chants from the blackthorn directed at certain goalkeepers. This was in the Holloway era and I have great memories of those days even if I can't really remember a lot about the football itself. It was exciting.
Relegation came and we stopped going, but roll on adulthood and I went to a few away games when living in London, and now back in Bristol I was bored so I started going along again and before I know it I'm hooked like when I was a kid.
These are the relationships which need to be formed and I think our problem is that parents don't want to come. We do a lot to try and get kids involved because I know we still do some of those fun days, and we've got the young pirates, but in reality that's there to help Adults who want to go keep their kids entertained and help the kids build a bond with the club that will endure like I had. We need something which will see adults want to take their children to a real football match and give them something to be entertained by as well.
My brother really does not want to take my nephews, and this is where it gets interesting because it's not about race but general neutral adult opinion on rovers. He thinks the quality of football is poor (debatable - I think he's missing a trick) that the 'family enclosure' is naff - because it's terraced, the kids will get bored, they will hear bad language (it's right by the blackthorn so kind of unavoidable). Target the neutral adults and market it as being a family event, have very good deals for them and for gods sake let's not wait for the UWE or whatever else comes for improving family match day experience.
And it doesn't have to stop there. Let's try bussing in schools for free to see matches where ticket sales are low. Surely there's enough room in the south and south west stands?
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Post by LJG on Jul 29, 2017 16:53:55 GMT
You can tell by the replys on this thread that this forum consists mainly of white males aged 40+. Given that the fanbase is largely made up of white 30+ males why would you expect the forum to be any different? You could have made that the second post on this thread. No need to read the comments.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2017 17:11:55 GMT
why is the question being asked "What are Rovers doing about the imbalance" its not down to rovers having to address the imbalance. with BAME populations , they know where the ground is and if they want to watch football then they will turn up to games. To make more money for the club maybe?
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Post by aghast on Jul 29, 2017 19:17:59 GMT
I was meant to put 40 originally, then noticed I had put 30. An interesting statistic, from a small Yougov dataset the average Rovers supporter is 55+, male and politically left.Why don't they join Gaschat then?
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