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Post by peterparker on Feb 15, 2018 10:51:11 GMT
We're in it and I met with no one. Bob A B Fluid Power I didn’t get so much as a thanks either! Maybe they have read some of your posts
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Post by gashead1981 on Feb 15, 2018 11:32:59 GMT
I didn’t get so much as a thanks either! Maybe they have read some of your posts They didn't have the balls to tell me I was wrong either then!!!
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Post by knowall on Feb 15, 2018 12:15:08 GMT
I didn’t do the 1883 club instead favouring direct sponsorship which, for the return, is not great value for money, but it’s done to support my local club that I support so no grumbles on that front. I did toy with the idea of the 1883 this year with the lucrative prizes being the shirt sponsorship and ground sponsorship. I didn’t do and kind of regretted it. I’m not sure what they could offer in return for the same cost of entry? Depending on what’s on offer depends on whether I would give it another think. The whole reason why the 1883 club was set up was because it raised more money than selling the shirt sponsorship itself. L1 teams get in the region of £50k for shirt sponsorship. The 1883 club raises more than that and is also big appeal for local businesses. Isn’t there already an independent business club that is run by as gas head that has a monthly meet at the Mem? It is pretty obvious that since BB first introduced the 1883 Sponsors Club the value to the Football Club has diminished due to the number of incentives now being given to participant Companies. Just work out how much return you get for your entry fee (hospitality etc) and there isn't a lot left for the Football Club. If there is a Company prepared to pay a large sum for the main sponsorship then it should be welcomed.
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Post by spoony on Feb 15, 2018 12:49:48 GMT
Yes, electronic turnstiles have worked well at Bournemouth. About 11,000 using them on match day so not too different from us. They used them at a couple of friendlies pre season and it was pretty chaotic but it soon settled down. But it does mean there’s no pay at the gate on the day so a big change in habit for some and staff would be needed to sell the tickets earlier on the day before going to the turnstile. Good to hear that the new guy seems on the ball and working hard to make it better, UTG! I was told that you would still be able to pay on the day, but at the ticket office, no ticket sales on the gate. People paying on the day will get a paper ticket, with a barcode on which they scan at the turnstile
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Post by warehamgas on Feb 15, 2018 12:53:24 GMT
Yes, electronic turnstiles have worked well at Bournemouth. About 11,000 using them on match day so not too different from us. They used them at a couple of friendlies pre season and it was pretty chaotic but it soon settled down. But it does mean there’s no pay at the gate on the day so a big change in habit for some and staff would be needed to sell the tickets earlier on the day before going to the turnstile. Good to hear that the new guy seems on the ball and working hard to make it better, UTG! I was told that you would still be able to pay on the day, but at the ticket office, no ticket sales on the gate. People paying on the day will get a paper ticket, with a barcode on which they scan at the turnstile Thanks. Yes, that’s what happens here. UTG!
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Post by gashead1981 on Feb 15, 2018 13:17:31 GMT
I didn’t do the 1883 club instead favouring direct sponsorship which, for the return, is not great value for money, but it’s done to support my local club that I support so no grumbles on that front. I did toy with the idea of the 1883 this year with the lucrative prizes being the shirt sponsorship and ground sponsorship. I didn’t do and kind of regretted it. I’m not sure what they could offer in return for the same cost of entry? Depending on what’s on offer depends on whether I would give it another think. The whole reason why the 1883 club was set up was because it raised more money than selling the shirt sponsorship itself. L1 teams get in the region of £50k for shirt sponsorship. The 1883 club raises more than that and is also big appeal for local businesses. Isn’t there already an independent business club that is run by as gas head that has a monthly meet at the Mem? It is pretty obvious that since BB first introduced the 1883 Sponsors Club the value to the Football Club has diminished due to the number of incentives now being given to participant Companies. Just work out how much return you get for your entry fee (hospitality etc) and there isn't a lot left for the Football Club. If there is a Company prepared to pay a large sum for the main sponsorship then it should be welcomed. I disagree. Its £50 a head for match day hospitality roughly when you buy outside of the club membership. If you purchase a draw ticket it is from memory, £1300+VAT and you get a table for 10 in return meaning a net profit of £800 per ticket and then there will be bar tabs to add to that. The gold membership was £3000+VAT I think. Online sponsorship of the website is only worth about £800 per year for exclusive partners. The top prize is what everyone goes in for and what raises the entry which is worth about £25k per shirt. So with 87 businesses taking part, already there is good profit in it and some bought the gold membership package as well. I think the total raised last year was £120k. The amount of tickets sold greatly outweigh the prizes given out. The club wouldn't do it otherwise. The problem previously was no company could offer the rate card for shirt sponsorship. When it was introduced I think the going rate card for L1 was £40k and the 1883 club raised £70k. And it has grown year on year. The nice thing about it was that it gave local companies the opportunity to be apart of the club and it generated more revenue.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Feb 15, 2018 13:21:51 GMT
Unless we get a 2M deal from a Jordanian company which allows us to legitimately increase our playing budet within FFP rules.
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Post by Marshy on Feb 15, 2018 13:28:05 GMT
I’ve heard that Durex want to sponsor us, that seems like a safe bet? Or are they just trying to hoodwink us.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Feb 15, 2018 13:34:29 GMT
I’ve heard that Durex want to sponsor us, that seems like a safe bet? Or are they just trying to hoodwink us. Lubrication not insemination.
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Post by Marshy on Feb 15, 2018 13:36:06 GMT
I’ve heard that Durex want to sponsor us, that seems like a safe bet? Or are they just trying to hoodwink us. Lubrication not insemination. Ooh you’re a slippery character.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Feb 15, 2018 14:47:34 GMT
Unless we get a 2M deal from a Jordanian company which allows us to legitimately increase our playing budet within FFP rules. Was told from an ex official source that's its £5m they also get to sponsor the fully revamped Santa's grotto for the next 5 years
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Post by axegas on Feb 15, 2018 14:48:58 GMT
I’ve heard that Durex want to sponsor us, that seems like a safe bet? Or are they just trying to hoodwink us. Lubrication not insemination. Perhaps they can sponsor Jonny Burn?
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Post by knowall on Feb 15, 2018 16:28:10 GMT
It is pretty obvious that since BB first introduced the 1883 Sponsors Club the value to the Football Club has diminished due to the number of incentives now being given to participant Companies. Just work out how much return you get for your entry fee (hospitality etc) and there isn't a lot left for the Football Club. If there is a Company prepared to pay a large sum for the main sponsorship then it should be welcomed. I disagree. Its £50 a head for match day hospitality roughly when you buy outside of the club membership. If you purchase a draw ticket it is from memory, £1300+VAT and you get a table for 10 in return meaning a net profit of £800 per ticket and then there will be bar tabs to add to that. The gold membership was £3000+VAT I think. Online sponsorship of the website is only worth about £800 per year for exclusive partners. The top prize is what everyone goes in for and what raises the entry which is worth about £25k per shirt. So with 87 businesses taking part, already there is good profit in it and some bought the gold membership package as well. I think the total raised last year was £120k. The amount of tickets sold greatly outweigh the prizes given out. The club wouldn't do it otherwise.The problem previously was no company could offer the rate card for shirt sponsorship. When it was introduced I think the going rate card for L1 was £40k and the 1883 club raised £70k. And it has grown year on year. The nice thing about it was that it gave local companies the opportunity to be apart of the club and it generated more revenue. Of course, you do. For as you say 'The Club wouldn't do it'............. so why are they changing it? You may be underestimating the value of the various sponsorship giveaways? However, you can ask the Board for their reasons at the AGM next month.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2018 17:03:28 GMT
I offered to pay for the full shirt sponsorship at double the price. Thought it would be good for my business. The business is in the aerospace industry we provide tail and wing flaps for aircraft and the hydraulic lubricants that are used with them. My name is Chris Nut.
The club turned me down .
C.Nut Flaps and Lubricants
Maybe it was just too long a name for the shirts.
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Post by thomas on Feb 15, 2018 17:07:16 GMT
I offered to pay for the full shirt sponsorship at double the price. Thought it would be good for my business. The business is in the aerospace industry we provide tail and wing flaps for aircraft and the hydraulic lubricants that are used with them. My name is Chris Nut. The club turned me down . C.Nut Flaps and Lubricants Maybe it was just too long a name for the shirts. Hi Anghymhwysedd, What business is that? We work in that sector, we make test rigs :-) Bob A B Fluid Power Ltd
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Post by thomas on Feb 15, 2018 17:21:33 GMT
Only on bad days
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Post by inee on Feb 15, 2018 18:14:02 GMT
To me it doesn't stack up sorry, if he's saying theres more people than tickets sold then what proof is there, and if he's right why don't they spot check tickets to confirm it ,or a spot check on the inside the ground by the turnstiles randomly sounds as surely that would highlight where the issues if any are, it all sounds like a smoke screen to me. As for the 1883 thing ,it's another step isolating the club from those who have stood loyal all these years ,to me it seems to be the beginning of the club changing from what we know and love to just another club prostituting itself out to the highest bidder
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Post by gashead1981 on Feb 15, 2018 18:16:10 GMT
I disagree. Its £50 a head for match day hospitality roughly when you buy outside of the club membership. If you purchase a draw ticket it is from memory, £1300+VAT and you get a table for 10 in return meaning a net profit of £800 per ticket and then there will be bar tabs to add to that. The gold membership was £3000+VAT I think. Online sponsorship of the website is only worth about £800 per year for exclusive partners. The top prize is what everyone goes in for and what raises the entry which is worth about £25k per shirt. So with 87 businesses taking part, already there is good profit in it and some bought the gold membership package as well. I think the total raised last year was £120k. The amount of tickets sold greatly outweigh the prizes given out. The club wouldn't do it otherwise.The problem previously was no company could offer the rate card for shirt sponsorship. When it was introduced I think the going rate card for L1 was £40k and the 1883 club raised £70k. And it has grown year on year. The nice thing about it was that it gave local companies the opportunity to be apart of the club and it generated more revenue. Of course, you do. For as you say 'The Club wouldn't do it'............. so why are they changing it? You may be underestimating the value of the various sponsorship giveaways? However, you can ask the Board for their reasons at the AGM next month. Well one thing I was told directly was that the commercial side think the shirt sponsorship was worth £150k for a L1 club. Quite where that figure was plucked from I don't know, but if that is what they value it at and we only raised £120k and had to give a way free stuff to do it then I suppose it is bad business... But finding someone to stump up that figure for very little promotional viewing is the problem. A national company won't be interested as its a limited audience and we have very little national exposure unless we get a cup run, but we are Bristol Rovers and we don't do cup runs! So predominantly you have to approach local businesses or a national company with strong local connections that could afford to spend that figure, justify the spend through their marketing and then see what they would get in return from the club. Bearing in mind that marketing your business now is mainly done on the net, you can spend £500 with google or Facebook and almost guarantee to treble your investment spend in return. And its not as if we are on match of the day every week for 10 mins.
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 15, 2018 18:25:16 GMT
To me it doesn't stack up sorry, if he's saying theres more people than tickets sold then what proof is there, and if he's right why don't they spot check tickets to confirm it ,or a spot check on the inside the ground by the turnstiles randomly sounds as surely that would highlight where the issues if any are, it all sounds like a smoke screen to me. As for the 1883 thing ,it's another step isolating the club from those who have stood loyal all these years ,to me it seems to be the beginning of the club changing from what we know and love to just another club prostituting itself out to the highest bidder How do you spot check it's a freeby against a paid ticket? Although not sure what difference electronic turnstiles would make on that score, wouldn't it be easier to just deal with the issue at source, as I assume only so many members of staff have authority to issue free tickets?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2018 19:02:36 GMT
I thought it was more like rovers employee in cohoots with steward allow freeloaders in via opening a gate.Dam criminal genius if you ask me.
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