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Post by aforce on Feb 15, 2018 19:43:03 GMT
Of course, you do. For as you say 'The Club wouldn't do it'............. so why are they changing it? You may be underestimating the value of the various sponsorship giveaways? However, you can ask the Board for their reasons at the AGM next month. Well one thing I was told directly was that the commercial side think the shirt sponsorship was worth £150k for a L1 club. Quite where that figure was plucked from I don't know, but if that is what they value it at and we only raised £120k and had to give a way free stuff to do it then I suppose it is bad business... But finding someone to stump up that figure for very little promotional viewing is the problem. A national company won't be interested as its a limited audience and we have very little national exposure unless we get a cup run, but we are Bristol Rovers and we don't do cup runs! So predominantly you have to approach local businesses or a national company with strong local connections that could afford to spend that figure, justify the spend through their marketing and then see what they would get in return from the club. Bearing in mind that marketing your business now is mainly done on the net, you can spend £500 with google or Facebook and almost guarantee to treble your investment spend in return. And its not as if we are on match of the day every week for 10 mins. Lancer Scott, a local business paid £2.5m for 5 years that’s (500k) a year
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Post by aforce on Feb 15, 2018 19:44:24 GMT
It’s a good way to get some cash flow if they could get a similar deal. Obviously companies gamble that you could make the championship within the 5 years and you get the money up front
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Post by knowall on Feb 15, 2018 19:49:12 GMT
Of course, you do. For as you say 'The Club wouldn't do it'............. so why are they changing it? You may be underestimating the value of the various sponsorship giveaways? However, you can ask the Board for their reasons at the AGM next month. Well one thing I was told directly was that the commercial side think the shirt sponsorship was worth £150k for a L1 club. Quite where that figure was plucked from I don't know, but if that is what they value it at and we only raised £120k and had to give a way free stuff to do it then I suppose it is bad business... But finding someone to stump up that figure for very little promotional viewing is the problem. A national company won't be interested as its a limited audience and we have very little national exposure unless we get a cup run, but we are Bristol Rovers and we don't do cup runs! So predominantly you have to approach local businesses or a national company with strong local connections that could afford to spend that figure, justify the spend through their marketing and then see what they would get in return from the club. Bearing in mind that marketing your business now is mainly done on the net, you can spend £500 with google or Facebook and almost guarantee to treble your investment spend in return. And its not as if we are on match of the day every week for 10 mins. But surely that is the problem with Bristol Rovers - all these people that know - who are they? Obviously not you because you say 'I don't know' Perhaps you will enlighten us as to who is this sage who told you that 'the Commercial side think the shirt sponsorship was worth £150k' I'm with you as it seems optimistic - but two thoughts - (1) is that really what the Commercial side think? and (2) who is this insider who knows what the Commercial side thinks? Don't be shy - please tell us - I for one would love to know
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Post by peterparker on Feb 15, 2018 19:49:29 GMT
To me it doesn't stack up sorry, if he's saying theres more people than tickets sold then what proof is there, and if he's right why don't they spot check tickets to confirm it ,or a spot check on the inside the ground by the turnstiles randomly sounds as surely that would highlight where the issues if any are, it all sounds like a smoke screen to me. As for the 1883 thing ,it's another step isolating the club from those who have stood loyal all these years ,to me it seems to be the beginning of the club changing from what we know and love to just another club prostituting itself out to the highest bidder Is he isolating the 1883 club? Sounds like he has had communication with at least some of them and is prepared to work with them. Although there seems to be another viewpoint on that The shirt raffle was good, but doesnt mean it has to go forever, especially if we aspire to the championship and beyond
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Post by Severncider on Feb 15, 2018 20:03:30 GMT
Well one thing I was told directly was that the commercial side think the shirt sponsorship was worth £150k for a L1 club. Quite where that figure was plucked from I don't know, but if that is what they value it at and we only raised £120k and had to give a way free stuff to do it then I suppose it is bad business... But finding someone to stump up that figure for very little promotional viewing is the problem. A national company won't be interested as its a limited audience and we have very little national exposure unless we get a cup run, but we are Bristol Rovers and we don't do cup runs! So predominantly you have to approach local businesses or a national company with strong local connections that could afford to spend that figure, justify the spend through their marketing and then see what they would get in return from the club. Bearing in mind that marketing your business now is mainly done on the net, you can spend £500 with google or Facebook and almost guarantee to treble your investment spend in return. And its not as if we are on match of the day every week for 10 mins. But surely that is the problem with Bristol Rovers - all these people that know - who are they? Obviously not you because you say 'I don't know' Perhaps you will enlighten us as to who is this sage who told you that 'the Commercial side think the shirt sponsorship was worth £150k' I'm with you as it seems optimistic - but two thoughts - (1) is that really what the Commercial side think? and (2) who is this insider who knows what the Commercial side thinks? Don't be shy - please tell us - I for one would love to knowOK, so you want openess. So let's start with, who you are? I have given my full details on numerous occassions.
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Post by knowall on Feb 15, 2018 20:59:50 GMT
Ah Severncider!
He whose aim in life is to cause trouble - am I right?
gashead1981 says 'I was told' as if this was directly attributed to the 'Commercial side' (his words) which I would query and look forward to an answer, although I am sure will not be forthcoming!
As for me - I think you know full well who I am - as do many on this forum - but being of shy disposition prefer to claim anonymity so as not to disappoint my many fans. After all, I am not asking you or gashead1981 to reveal who you are, but just to reveal the source of the disputable information which is quoted as fact - which I find difficult to believe. And let's face it - you don't believe either! Of course, the passage of time will reveal the truth and we all look forward to that.
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Post by lavalamp on Feb 15, 2018 21:17:11 GMT
Ah Severncider! He whose aim in life is to cause trouble - am I right? gashead1981 says 'I was told' as if this was directly attributed to the 'Commercial side' (his words) which I would query and look forward to an answer, although I am sure will not be forthcoming! As for me - I think you know full well who I am - as do many on this forum - but being of shy disposition prefer to claim anonymity so as not to disappoint my many fans. After all, I am not asking you or gashead1981 to reveal who you are, but just to reveal the source of the disputable information which is quoted as fact - which I find difficult to believe. And let's face it - you don't believe either! Of course, the passage of time will reveal the truth and we all look forward to that. The famous twitter user Keith Chimp I presume? 😉
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Post by yattongas on Feb 15, 2018 21:21:21 GMT
Just in case anyone is wondering ..... I’m Spartacus
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Post by garystash on Feb 15, 2018 21:24:32 GMT
No! I'm Spartacus.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Feb 15, 2018 21:26:02 GMT
I'm free!
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Post by oldgas on Feb 15, 2018 21:26:47 GMT
Ah Severncider! He whose aim in life is to cause trouble - am I right? gashead1981 says 'I was told' as if this was directly attributed to the 'Commercial side' (his words) which I would query and look forward to an answer, although I am sure will not be forthcoming! As for me - I think you know full well who I am - as do many on this forum - but being of shy disposition prefer to claim anonymity so as not to disappoint my many fans. After all, I am not asking you or gashead1981 to reveal who you are, but just to reveal the source of the disputable information which is quoted as fact - which I find difficult to believe. And let's face it - you don't believe either! Of course, the passage of time will reveal the truth and we all look forward to that. Hey MR Knowall. Never mind calling out other users and demanding to know what they know and who told them, and the various inns and outs of a cats arse. On another thread you claimed to KNOW what Al Quadi senior and the elder brother think about Rovers. You also claimed to KNOW what Wael intends to do , etc etc. It's all on Henbury's recent thread, so don't pretend you don't know what I'm talking about. MYself and others have asked you to list precisely what you know, and, to quote the football song, ,It's all gone quiet over there"! Perhaps it would be good to practice what you preach. You've been called out, my son!
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Post by aghast on Feb 15, 2018 21:34:18 GMT
I know this and I tell that
But only just what matters
Coz I have a secret source
They tell me what to chatters.
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Post by toddy1953 on Feb 15, 2018 21:47:18 GMT
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Post by gasify on Feb 15, 2018 23:18:34 GMT
To me it doesn't stack up sorry, if he's saying theres more people than tickets sold then what proof is there, and if he's right why don't they spot check tickets to confirm it ,or a spot check on the inside the ground by the turnstiles randomly sounds as surely that would highlight where the issues if any are, it all sounds like a smoke screen to me. As for the 1883 thing ,it's another step isolating the club from those who have stood loyal all these years ,to me it seems to be the beginning of the club changing from what we know and love to just another club prostituting itself out to the highest bidder Yes, I also struggle to comprehend this, but it is what he said. He also explained the issue with running out of Pasties and Kits: He reckons that there are people who know the pasty will be discounted to £1 at the end of the game, so make their purchase decision then. He also said the all football clubs do the same and they aim to be sold out at Christmas. He said that if the club over ordered, there would be people waiting for them to be discounted, rather than pay the full price. In all honesty, I came away thinking two things: 1) This is a negative way of looking at things. 2) Do we really have fans that take advantage of the club like that? For me, I still have the instant gratification requirements of a 14yr old, so buy a pasty when I want a pasty and a shirt when I want a shirt. Can think of a worse thing to do than wait until there were discounted.
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Post by gashead1981 on Feb 15, 2018 23:55:13 GMT
I sponsor the club in a small capacity so who do you think I speak to when it comes to sorting it, Ronnie and Reggie?
Do you honestly think I don’t ask how much for this sponsorship or that part of the stadium or what other packages are offered?
None of it is secret pricing. If you want to know yourselves, ring the club with a phoney company and ask for a price list. I’m sure they will talk to you.
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Post by gashead1981 on Feb 15, 2018 23:56:18 GMT
I have a good fwiend called Bigus Dickus
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Post by Henbury Gas on Feb 16, 2018 1:27:57 GMT
Well one thing I was told directly was that the commercial side think the shirt sponsorship was worth £150k for a L1 club. Quite where that figure was plucked from I don't know, but if that is what they value it at and we only raised £120k and had to give a way free stuff to do it then I suppose it is bad business... But finding someone to stump up that figure for very little promotional viewing is the problem. A national company won't be interested as its a limited audience and we have very little national exposure unless we get a cup run, but we are Bristol Rovers and we don't do cup runs! So predominantly you have to approach local businesses or a national company with strong local connections that could afford to spend that figure, justify the spend through their marketing and then see what they would get in return from the club. Bearing in mind that marketing your business now is mainly done on the net, you can spend £500 with google or Facebook and almost guarantee to treble your investment spend in return. And its not as if we are on match of the day every week for 10 mins. But surely that is the problem with Bristol Rovers - all these people that know - who are they? Obviously not you because you say 'I don't know' Perhaps you will enlighten us as to who is this sage who told you that 'the Commercial side think the shirt sponsorship was worth £150k' I'm with you as it seems optimistic - but two thoughts - (1) is that really what the Commercial side think? and (2) who is this insider who knows what the Commercial side thinks? Don't be shy - please tell us - I for one would love to know I said it, if that helps you
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Post by Severncider on Feb 16, 2018 6:58:01 GMT
Ah Severncider! He whose aim in life is to cause trouble - am I right?gashead1981 says 'I was told' as if this was directly attributed to the 'Commercial side' (his words) which I would query and look forward to an answer, although I am sure will not be forthcoming! As for me - I think you know full well who I am - as do many on this forum - but being of shy disposition prefer to claim anonymity so as not to disappoint my many fans. After all, I am not asking you or gashead1981 to reveal who you are, but just to reveal the source of the disputable information which is quoted as fact - which I find difficult to believe. And let's face it - you don't believe either! Of course, the passage of time will reveal the truth and we all look forward to that. I only put on here what I would say direct to the individuals concerned, not hid behind an annoymous identity, this also applied to the previous Chairman Nick Higgs. Steve Hamer knows exactly who Severnsider is, he has emailed me on several points I have raised through this forum. There is plenty I would like to say on this forum but am fed up with the comment "who's your source" so have not commented for a long time.
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Proper Gas
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Post by Marshy on Feb 16, 2018 7:27:24 GMT
No, I’m Spartacus and so’s my wife!
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 16, 2018 9:12:16 GMT
To me it doesn't stack up sorry, if he's saying theres more people than tickets sold then what proof is there, and if he's right why don't they spot check tickets to confirm it ,or a spot check on the inside the ground by the turnstiles randomly sounds as surely that would highlight where the issues if any are, it all sounds like a smoke screen to me. As for the 1883 thing ,it's another step isolating the club from those who have stood loyal all these years ,to me it seems to be the beginning of the club changing from what we know and love to just another club prostituting itself out to the highest bidder Yes, I also struggle to comprehend this, but it is what he said. He also explained the issue with running out of Pasties and Kits: He reckons that there are people who know the pasty will be discounted to £1 at the end of the game, so make their purchase decision then. He also said the all football clubs do the same and they aim to be sold out at Christmas. He said that if the club over ordered, there would be people waiting for them to be discounted, rather than pay the full price. In all honesty, I came away thinking two things: 1) This is a negative way of looking at things. 2) Do we really have fans that take advantage of the club like that? For me, I still have the instant gratification requirements of a 14yr old, so buy a pasty when I want a pasty and a shirt when I want a shirt. Can think of a worse thing to do than wait until there were discounted. The club hasn't sold pasties for a £1 for most of this season so that still can't be the excuse for running out now? Although not sure anybody would plan to buy a pasty 2 hours plus after they arrive at the ground. Shirts wise given DC is renowned for having a good end to the season if's fool hardy to plan to run out by December.
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