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Post by peterparker on Jul 18, 2022 15:52:31 GMT
I can't see the EFL can "crack down" on ground safety, which is the SAG area, nor SAG have any authority to penalise a football club for their fans behaviour. EFL might not be able to do anything with safety, but they can certainly impose a punishment of behind closed doors game
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Jul 18, 2022 15:54:37 GMT
So the plot thickens again, it’s now only the FGR game that will face restrictions. We definitely oversold the FGR game for the Thatchers End are now trying to save face. Surely, if that were the case, wouldn't the SAG issue a statement saying that they have not imposed any further restrictions on capacity?
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Post by Colyton Gas on Jul 18, 2022 15:58:15 GMT
This is why a new modern stadium is needed now Echo this but after many many years,I suspect it will never happen in my life time. 'We are in touch with 12 World Class leading stadium consultants' we were told. 'Money isn't an issue' said the new chairman Steve Hamer when UWE fell through'.Watertight' his predecessor Nick Higgs said. 'We will be asking fans to choose their seats at Cheltenham whilst we re build the Mem' was another fantasy.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2022 16:02:35 GMT
Looks like im one of the ones being moved. rather not go at all honestly bought a ticket that now no longer exists instead I'm now sat in a stand on my own away from everyone id usually go with. classic rovers once again.
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Jul 18, 2022 16:07:02 GMT
Looks like im one of the ones being moved. rather not go at all honestly bought a ticket that now no longer exists instead I'm now sat in a stand on my own away from everyone id usually go with. classic rovers once again. I don’t get why they’ve started moving ST holders rather than people with match tickets, makes no sense.
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Post by clockendgas on Jul 18, 2022 16:10:28 GMT
I'm happy to be moved into hospitality if that helps?
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Post by yattongas on Jul 18, 2022 16:11:58 GMT
Looks like im one of the ones being moved. rather not go at all honestly bought a ticket that now no longer exists instead I'm now sat in a stand on my own away from everyone id usually go with. classic rovers once again. I don’t get why they’ve started moving ST holder rather than people with match tickets, makes no sense. They haven’t have they ?
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Post by meader on Jul 18, 2022 16:13:29 GMT
This is why a new modern stadium is needed now I’ve said this before so I’ll say again. The present condition of the Mem is holding back the progress of BRFC. We need get out ASAP.
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Post by singupgas on Jul 18, 2022 16:19:47 GMT
Another reason for us desperately needing a new ground.
Ridiculous situation to be in, sell out in areas and have to start moving fans to opposite end of the pitch.
The Mem is too small for us and is now holding us back with momentum gained from Promotion.
We have a wave of positivity after DCs back to back promotion that we didn't capitalise on, surely we aren't going to make same mistake.
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Post by percy on Jul 18, 2022 16:30:05 GMT
Another reason for us desperately needing a new ground. Ridiculous situation to be in, sell out in areas and have to start moving fans to opposite end of the pitch. The Mem is too small for us and is now holding us back with momentum gained from Promotion. We have a wave of positivity after DCs back to back promotion that we didn't capitalise on, surely we aren't going to make same mistake. At least they can make up some lost revenue selling the brand new, post promotion home and away kits.. oh...
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Post by wertongas on Jul 18, 2022 16:30:13 GMT
This is why a new modern stadium is needed now I’ve said this before so I’ll say again. The present condition of the Mem is holding back the progress of BRFC. We need get out ASAP. The problem is for the time being we have no where to go and are going to be stuck at the Mem for at least another five years. Club should set aside a budget to have the tents removed and replaced with a larger L shaped temporary stand that is not a tent but bespoke with a hard roof same could be done on one or both sides of the east stand extending the stand, other clubs have done this such as Bournemouth and Blackpool . it would increase seating and capacity and we would not need this thread.
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Post by meader on Jul 18, 2022 16:30:22 GMT
Another reason for us desperately needing a new ground. Ridiculous situation to be in, sell out in areas and have to start moving fans to opposite end of the pitch. The Mem is too small for us and is now holding us back with momentum gained from Promotion. We have a wave of positivity after DCs back to back promotion that we didn't capitalise on, surely we aren't going to make same mistake. This question need to be answered or read as statement. Who outside of Bristol Rovers FC really wants us to have a new stadium? Are there any investors out there willing to help our football club? Weal can’t do everything on his own. Without any financial backing, I really fear for the future of our club the longer we remain at the Mem.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 18, 2022 16:34:32 GMT
I’ve said this before so I’ll say again. The present condition of the Mem is holding back the progress of BRFC. We need get out ASAP. The problem is for the time being we have no where to go and are going to be stuck at the Mem for at least another five years. Club should set aside a budget to have the tents removed and replaced with a larger L shaped temporary stand that is not a tent but bespoke with a hard roof same could be done on one or both sides of the east stand extending the stand, other clubs have done this such as Bournemouth and Blackpool . it would increase seating and capacity and we would not need this thread.We probably would as a 12K(?) capacity would probably also be too small and Wael would have just wasted another few £m's of his money on basically another temp. stand.
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Post by axegas on Jul 18, 2022 16:35:57 GMT
SAG are operating in conjunction with the local authorities, who raised their concerns over the disorder at our two last home games. So it’s not really advice we can ignore. I've never known SAG or similar impose attendance restrictions game by game in the past? It does seem a total over reaction given it is very unlikely to be repeated at the start of a new season. But what I’m saying Topper, is that yes if this was solely a SAG decision we could probably argue our case. However, the club statement made it clear that the local authorities were involved in making the decision and it’s probably best we keep them on our side, even if it means moving some fans for two games.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 18, 2022 16:36:34 GMT
Another reason for us desperately needing a new ground. Ridiculous situation to be in, sell out in areas and have to start moving fans to opposite end of the pitch. The Mem is too small for us and is now holding us back with momentum gained from Promotion. We have a wave of positivity after DCs back to back promotion that we didn't capitalise on, surely we aren't going to make same mistake. This question need to be answered or read as statement. Who outside of Bristol Rovers FC really wants us to have a new stadium? Are there any investors out there willing to help our football club? Weal can’t do everything on his own. Without any financial backing, I really fear for the future of our club the longer we remain at the Mem. We're virtually debt free, financially we're probably in the best shape before we were forced to sell Eastville.
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Post by gulfofaden on Jul 18, 2022 16:38:46 GMT
The world is generally too uptight about everything.
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Post by singupgas on Jul 18, 2022 16:39:51 GMT
Another reason for us desperately needing a new ground. Ridiculous situation to be in, sell out in areas and have to start moving fans to opposite end of the pitch. The Mem is too small for us and is now holding us back with momentum gained from Promotion. We have a wave of positivity after DCs back to back promotion that we didn't capitalise on, surely we aren't going to make same mistake. This question need to be answered or read as statement. Who outside of Bristol Rovers FC really wants us to have a new stadium? Are there any investors out there willing to help our football club? Weal can’t do everything on his own. Without any financial backing, I really fear for the future of our club the longer we remain at the Mem. We will be back in league 2 again 5 years time, though I do trust Joey who has seemingly installed some professionalism in the playing aspect of the club. Do fear nothing is going on with the FM or any site. I would like clarification from the club really, sure they could say within 6 months, a year that we expect the building to commence.. or if is nothing is being worked on then so be it. Getting to a point where the club should say something meaningful good or bad.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Jul 18, 2022 16:42:38 GMT
Very strange.
Imagine 1st home fixture v Burton Albion, 2nd v Fleetwood Town..... massive respect to them as they'll be difficult opponents established in this league......but, If we weren't selling as many tickets, would the 'SAG' 'EFL' so say decision about safe areas still apply? All very strange..
With the safety restrictions now imposed, there can still be infringements, it's not about numbers it's part related to the amount of total inadequate stewarding on the match day experience many have witnessed...
I've seen (last season) what looks to be children so say guarding our safety in steward outfits amongst other ridiculous altercations.....you can blame over exuberant as much as you like (I like to defend such actions as fgr fans invaded our pitch in same spirits with apparently no recourse) but the deterrent of sensible stewarding has been sadly lacking for seasons...
The club shifts the blame onto the paying customers..... but it made no due diligence to mitigate it's own defence without first exploring other options.
Then the club shifts the blame to SAG and/or EFL.
The truth may lie somewhere in the middle.
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Post by wertongas on Jul 18, 2022 16:50:18 GMT
The problem is for the time being we have no where to go and are going to be stuck at the Mem for at least another five years. Club should set aside a budget to have the tents removed and replaced with a larger L shaped temporary stand that is not a tent but bespoke with a hard roof same could be done on one or both sides of the east stand extending the stand, other clubs have done this such as Bournemouth and Blackpool . it would increase seating and capacity and we would not need this thread.We probably would as a 12K(?) capacity would probably also be too small and Wael would have just wasted another few £m's of his money on basically another temp. stand. But the temporary stands we have at the moment are rented and the rent paid by sponsors, so at least some of the cost of larger temporary stands would be met by outside sources and the increased capacity should also eventually go towards paying for them and of course when we move they can be sold on.
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Post by gashead1981 on Jul 18, 2022 18:16:54 GMT
The people that ran on the pitch after Billy’s goal are the ones that have caused this issue. As I said a few weeks back, against Daggers, we had more people packed in the ground and only 2 idiots ran on when Browner scored. So putting it down to overwhelming emotions is just nonsense. We controlled ourselves then so why couldn’t it be done again? The club and A&S police should also shoulder some responsibility and should have expected something like what happened should we have gotten promoted. You reap what you sow. But that still doesn't explain why SAG feel the need to reduce ground capacity. They are just a committee advising on ground safety, not an organisation who can issue fines etc. I guess they are working on the basis of less people = higher chance of control. Also it means that the fans who are STH are more likely to be compliant than the pay on the dayers who turn up just to cause a bit of aggro.
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