|
Post by Tilly's Thighs on Jul 18, 2022 18:21:34 GMT
But that still doesn't explain why SAG feel the need to reduce ground capacity. They are just a committee advising on ground safety, not an organisation who can issue fines etc. I guess they are working on the basis of less people = higher chance of control. Also it means that the fans who are STH are more likely to be compliant than the pay on the dayers who turn up just to cause a bit of aggro. They used the same reason for reducing the capacity for last season - it would seem that logic didn't work out too well.
|
|
|
Post by bridgwatergas on Jul 18, 2022 19:49:29 GMT
I seriously can't get my head round this we are under 2 weeks away from the start of the season and this has only just been thought of now. Plenty of questions need answering like why have we oversold an end if they knew this was going to happen. I usually defend alot of decisions the club makes and can see why they are doing it but this is just indefensible it's a shambles.How many people are being moved and are they genuinely moving the last people to buy tickets as I don't think that's how it's been done.
|
|
|
Post by chippenhamgas on Jul 18, 2022 19:49:31 GMT
The mem is not fit for purpose, and will become less so as time goes on. Becoming embarrassing.
|
|
|
Post by Somersetgas on Jul 18, 2022 20:20:01 GMT
This is why a new modern stadium is needed now Echo this but after many many years,I suspect it will never happen in my life time. 'We are in touch with 12 World Class leading stadium consultants' we were told. 'Money isn't an issue' said the new chairman Steve Hamer when UWE fell through'.Watertight' his predecessor Nick Higgs said. 'We will be asking fans to choose their seats at Cheltenham whilst we re build the Mem' was another fantasy. You forgot the landing lights, other than that totally agree, it’s a disgrace, no improvements apart from a few tents to the actual ground since we moved in. However there does appear a nice new mural on the toilets wall,hopefully my feet won’t get wet this year in there.
|
|
|
Post by Somersetgas on Jul 18, 2022 20:30:56 GMT
But that still doesn't explain why SAG feel the need to reduce ground capacity. They are just a committee advising on ground safety, not an organisation who can issue fines etc. I guess they are working on the basis of less people = higher chance of control. Also it means that the fans who are STH are more likely to be compliant than the pay on the dayers who turn up just to cause a bit of aggro. As a pay on the dayer due to work and child care commitments, I don’t go to cause trouble, my little one might (8)but not me. I think it’s a whole world issue of anger and oppressiveness plus the herd mentality, my mates doing it so I will follow sadly. Until the culprits are dragged out and banned from every ground, pub and club it will continue, but the costs and staffing levels to do this would be astronomical. Society and morals need to change, as people we can’t keep getting worse, we all need to get better.
|
|
|
Post by chippenhamgas on Jul 18, 2022 20:44:31 GMT
Echo this but after many many years,I suspect it will never happen in my life time. 'We are in touch with 12 World Class leading stadium consultants' we were told. 'Money isn't an issue' said the new chairman Steve Hamer when UWE fell through'.Watertight' his predecessor Nick Higgs said. 'We will be asking fans to choose their seats at Cheltenham whilst we re build the Mem' was another fantasy. You forgot the landing lights, other than that totally agree, it’s a disgrace, no improvements apart from a few tents to the actual ground since we moved in. However there does appear a nice new mural on the toilets wall,hopefully my feet won’t get wet this year in there. Wael loves a selfie with the fans mind.
|
|
|
Post by singupgas on Jul 18, 2022 20:50:24 GMT
I seriously can't get my head round this we are under 2 weeks away from the start of the season and this has only just been thought of now. Plenty of questions need answering like why have we oversold an end if they knew this was going to happen. I usually defend alot of decisions the club makes and can see why they are doing it but this is just indefensible it's a shambles.How many people are being moved and are they genuinely moving the last people to buy tickets as I don't think that's how it's been done. Someone said they were a season ticket holder and being moved, which is ridiculous.
|
|
|
Post by Tilly's Thighs on Jul 18, 2022 20:53:08 GMT
You forgot the landing lights, other than that totally agree, it’s a disgrace, no improvements apart from a few tents to the actual ground since we moved in. However there does appear a nice new mural on the toilets wall,hopefully my feet won’t get wet this year in there. Wael loves a selfie with the fans mind. Or maybe the fans love a selfie with Wael, and he politely obliges?
|
|
|
Post by chippenhamgas on Jul 18, 2022 20:54:37 GMT
Wael loves a selfie with the fans mind. Or maybe the fans love a selfie with Wael, and he politely obliges? Easily pleased!
|
|
|
Post by Topper Gas on Jul 18, 2022 21:02:26 GMT
I seriously can't get my head round this we are under 2 weeks away from the start of the season and this has only just been thought of now. Plenty of questions need answering like why have we oversold an end if they knew this was going to happen. I usually defend alot of decisions the club makes and can see why they are doing it but this is just indefensible it's a shambles.How many people are being moved and are they genuinely moving the last people to buy tickets as I don't think that's how it's been done. It's a SAG decision not one made by the club, I guess they had two choices, move 300 fans or say "sorry we have to return your money", it seems a totally petty decision by SAG as I can't see moving 300 fans for two early season games, is going to make any difference to any potential end of season pitch invasions. Why not just give a warning for the FGR match and if the issues continue then impose the reduction v Oxford? If we hadn't sold out we wouldn't have even heard from SAG
|
|
|
Post by bridgwatergas on Jul 18, 2022 21:15:21 GMT
I seriously can't get my head round this we are under 2 weeks away from the start of the season and this has only just been thought of now. Plenty of questions need answering like why have we oversold an end if they knew this was going to happen. I usually defend alot of decisions the club makes and can see why they are doing it but this is just indefensible it's a shambles.How many people are being moved and are they genuinely moving the last people to buy tickets as I don't think that's how it's been done. It's a SAG decision not one made by the club, I guess they had two choices, move 300 fans or say "sorry we have to return your money", it seems a totally petty decision by SAG as I can't see moving 300 fans for two early season games, is going to make any difference to any potential end of season pitch invasions. Why not just give a warning for the FGR match and if the issues continue then impose the reduction v Oxford? If we hadn't sold out we wouldn't have even heard from SAG I get it's SAG but why make this decision now when we are basically about to start the season. The season finished in May it's now mid July and the decision to cut capacity is made under 2 weeks before the season starts,just makes no sense. And is it only 300 fans they are moving? If so how have they decided who has to move? In the statement it says last people to buy. If that is true I know for a fact they haven't done it that way.
|
|
pirate
Forum Legend
Posts: 18,621
|
Post by pirate on Jul 18, 2022 21:24:50 GMT
I seriously can't get my head round this we are under 2 weeks away from the start of the season and this has only just been thought of now. Plenty of questions need answering like why have we oversold an end if they knew this was going to happen. I usually defend alot of decisions the club makes and can see why they are doing it but this is just indefensible it's a shambles.How many people are being moved and are they genuinely moving the last people to buy tickets as I don't think that's how it's been done. It's a SAG decision not one made by the club, I guess they had two choices, move 300 fans or say "sorry we have to return your money", it seems a totally petty decision by SAG as I can't see moving 300 fans for two early season games, is going to make any difference to any potential end of season pitch invasions. Why not just give a warning for the FGR match and if the issues continue then impose the reduction v Oxford? If we hadn't sold out we wouldn't have even heard from SAG It's a club decision made on SAG recommendations - there is a difference. We could have ignored them. Reducing the capacity even further makes no sense whatsoever.
|
|
|
Post by Dirt Dogg on Jul 18, 2022 21:30:35 GMT
Apparently they picked which ST holders have to move from the 50/50 tombola.
|
|
|
Post by rovers5charlton5 on Jul 18, 2022 21:33:46 GMT
As others have said, this is completely pointless, as the only time this happens is the final game of the season (FGR game was effectively the last game which mattered to them).
A reduction in capacity for the preceeding 22 games will achieve exactly zero.
I am annoyed with the club for inferring that the invasion was all the fan's fault, when the stewards failed miserably to keep gangways clear throught the game. Failure to enforce things like that gives the impression that nothing will happen if a fan wants to run on the pitch later in the game.
|
|
|
Post by Smithy Gas on Jul 18, 2022 21:51:24 GMT
I’ve said this before so I’ll say again. The present condition of the Mem is holding back the progress of BRFC. We need get out ASAP. The problem is for the time being we have no where to go and are going to be stuck at the Mem for at least another five years. Club should set aside a budget to have the tents removed and replaced with a larger L shaped temporary stand that is not a tent but bespoke with a hard roof same could be done on one or both sides of the east stand extending the stand, other clubs have done this such as Bournemouth and Blackpool . it would increase seating and capacity and we would not need this thread. The sentiment is correct but the reality ends up like the go outdoors family stand we’ve had to endure for the last few years! There isn’t enough room on the East side of the stadium to introduce temporary stands without ruining the sight lines of the existing stands. If there was a way to do it, it would probably impact the terracing and therefore capacity won’t increase so why would you spend the money? Might be feasible at the South and South West corner but depends on restrictions of height etc. and same principle - if you aren’t going to increase capacity, why would you do it?! The Mem was butchered when the East and West, two relatively new stands when we moved in, weren’t built the full length of the pitch straight out the gate. With that, the proposed North stand and could have been built and a half decent South stand to create an alright gaff. As it is, I am in the camp of why bother polishing the turd and really hope we are down the line on the Fruitbowl or anything else.
|
|
|
Post by Tilly's Thighs on Jul 18, 2022 22:02:18 GMT
Or maybe the fans love a selfie with Wael, and he politely obliges? Easily pleased! Whereas some are impossible to please.
|
|
|
Post by aghast on Jul 18, 2022 23:12:01 GMT
What happens if the club just ignore the SAG advice? I'm not saying we should. Just curious. They don't seem to have any legal standing or clout. So what happens? They sue us? They get Bristol City Council to close us down? A&S Police send in their stormtroopers on matchday?
It seems like we have been punished by a quasi-legal body with no real legal standing.
What does reducing the capacity of the Thatcher's End for a few games do? It doesn't increase safety if it just reverts to normal after three games. It's just a slap on the wrist.
All this could have been avoided if a hundred numpties could control themselves for 5 minutes.
|
|
|
Post by peterparker on Jul 19, 2022 5:13:31 GMT
People can call it pointless, moan about the stewards and find it out of order to blame the fans for going on the pitch
But it is Dam illegal to enter the pitch, so dont Dam do it.
Scunthorpe is about the mid match encroachment and it is still unclear what happened regarding the Scunny keeper being 'attacked'. Even if he was knocked over accidentally players shouldnt be put in that position
The FGR match was tanked up wannabes who didnt like what FGR did despite probably being on the pitch a week or so later
I think at least 4 people were prosecuted and given football banning orders for their pointless FGR incident.
Moan all yoi like, but direct it at all the wannabes and lads that are about 'on the pitch' for the littlest thing for the 'bantz'
|
|
|
Post by o2o2bo2ba on Jul 19, 2022 5:57:27 GMT
People can call it pointless, moan about the stewards and find it out of order to blame the fans for going on the pitch But it is Dam illegal to enter the pitch, so dont Dam do it. Scunthorpe is about the mid match encroachment and it is still unclear what happened regarding the Scunny keeper being 'attacked'. Even if he was knocked over accidentally players shouldnt be put in that position The FGR match was tanked up wannabes who didnt like what FGR did despite probably being on the pitch a week or so later I think at least 4 people were prosecuted and given football banning orders for their pointless FGR incident. Moan all yoi like, but direct it at all the wannabes and lads that are about 'on the pitch' for the littlest thing for the 'bantz' Totally agree. Unauthorized pitch invasion is an offence. Hit FGR with the same clauses, then..... but don't see that forthcoming. It's the inconsistency that frustrates...
|
|
|
Post by horfield on Jul 19, 2022 11:33:20 GMT
The club have made many new appointments in other areas of the club, but why when safety for all fans attending games is so important they haven't appointed a new qualified safety officer. Surely with a full time person in this job it would have headed off this SAG issue weeks before this egg on the face cock up. The last safety officer must have been sacked 8 months ago, plenty of time to find a proper replacement. Perhaps Gorringe's wife can find one, she appointed David Bright.
|
|