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Post by yattongas on Jul 20, 2022 15:41:20 GMT
According to Gorringe there will be no further tickets available to home fans. Can't believe fgr have sold anywhere near 1700 I’d be amazed if they sold over 800
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Post by oldmarket65 on Jul 20, 2022 17:05:42 GMT
According to Gorringe there will be no further tickets available to home fans. Can't believe fgr have sold anywhere near 1700 I’d be amazed if they sold over 800 We might have to make some assumptions until FGR stop selling . It's obvious they got the away terrace and we can't mixed fans even if they only sell 300 plus in away end. However : we can narrow things down in South stand . IF the club are saying " no more tickets". Then FGR may have 500_ 600 South stand tickets plus segregation and 300 from North stand tickets = 1000 sell out. But it still raises questions about allowing FGR have so many in South stand when they can't fill terrace first. Let's hope it's more than 800 as u say . Otherwise we could of used away terrace and got a bigger crowd. Indeed there could be many moans if they been allocated a 'full allocation' and bring only 800 and deprive our fans of tickets .
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Jul 20, 2022 17:31:21 GMT
Totally agree. Unauthorized pitch invasion is an offence. Hit FGR with the same clauses, then..... but don't see that forthcoming. It's the inconsistency that frustrates... The difference with FGR was that it wasn't during the game, which is why it's being treated differently. I'm afraid transgression of the pitch is treated as an offence whenever it's committed. Sorry. Anyone remember Mansfield?
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Post by fintanstack on Jul 20, 2022 17:39:17 GMT
The difference with FGR was that it wasn't during the game, which is why it's being treated differently. I'm afraid transgression of the pitch is treated as an offence whenever it's committed. Sorry. Anyone remember Mansfield? It may be but generally no one cares unless you actually hold up game for fifteen minutes or someone hits a goalkeeper. Thank goodness we did not do either of those things.
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Post by nsblue on Jul 20, 2022 17:59:54 GMT
I thought what was the away terrace is now a home terrace for this season and that away fans would have some or all of the south stand as required? Exactly what I thought after hearing what TG had said about plans for this coming season. My understanding too! Away terrace now a home terrace so no loss of numbers due to segregation and the South Stand is fully available to visiting supporters, though when we are playing a team with little visiting support parts of the South Stand will be available to home fans on a match by match basis. Given the layout, probably the best way the club could maximise home numbers for a league one promotion campaign!
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 20, 2022 18:05:57 GMT
The difference with FGR was that it wasn't during the game, which is why it's being treated differently. I'm afraid transgression of the pitch is treated as an offence whenever it's committed. Sorry. Anyone remember Mansfield? That's not really the case, as I haven't seen any action taken against Fulham or Man C, who both had "pitch invasions" after gaining promotion/winning the Championship.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Jul 21, 2022 5:37:15 GMT
I'm afraid transgression of the pitch is treated as an offence whenever it's committed. Sorry. Anyone remember Mansfield? That's not really the case, as I haven't seen any action taken against Fulham or Man C, who both had "pitch invasions" after gaining promotion/winning the Championship. Exactly my point! Inconsistency! The pitch invasion rule appears to be arbitrary as to when it's applied....unless something else is going on we don't know about?
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Post by chippenhamgas on Jul 21, 2022 5:59:10 GMT
Removal of family stand should have created an extra 300 terrace places but even before the enforced reduction we had no increase in capacity, now the plan to offer away teams variable allocations seems to be suspect. Why aren't we ever told the truth?
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Post by eric on Jul 21, 2022 7:13:00 GMT
That's not really the case, as I haven't seen any action taken against Fulham or Man C, who both had "pitch invasions" after gaining promotion/winning the Championship. Exactly my point! Inconsistency! The pitch invasion rule appears to be arbitrary as to when it's applied....unless something else is going on we don't know about? Not all pitch invasions are the same and surely it’s right they get acted upon depending on a whole number of circumstances. Is a club a repeat offender, how many people invaded, has it led to a long suspension in play (which some could argue gave us a competitive advantage over Northampton), has a player being assaulted or threatened, has there been an attempted altercation with other supporters etc. Its about time our morons realised they are causing problems for the club and started to behave.
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Post by baggins on Jul 21, 2022 7:21:37 GMT
Exactly my point! Inconsistency! The pitch invasion rule appears to be arbitrary as to when it's applied....unless something else is going on we don't know about? Not all pitch invasions are the same and surely it’s right they get acted upon depending on a whole number of circumstances. Is a club a repeat offender, how many people invaded, has it led to a long suspension in play (which some could argue gave us a competitive advantage over Northampton), has a player being assaulted or threatened, has there been an attempted altercation with other supporters etc. Its about time our morons realised they are causing problems for the club and started to behave. Wouldn't be surprised if 300 can't get in anyway as their card doesn't work.
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Post by Marshy on Jul 21, 2022 9:20:20 GMT
Removal of family stand should have created an extra 300 terrace places but even before the enforced reduction we had no increase in capacity, now the plan to offer away teams variable allocations seems to be suspect. Why aren't we ever told the truth? The truth? You couldn’t handle the truth! Half the lies they tell aren’t true anyway.
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Post by stuart1974 on Jul 21, 2022 9:30:59 GMT
Removal of family stand should have created an extra 300 terrace places but even before the enforced reduction we had no increase in capacity, now the plan to offer away teams variable allocations seems to be suspect. Why aren't we ever told the truth? The truth? You couldn’t handle the truth! Half the lies they tell aren’t true anyway. If someone told you they were a compulsive liar, would you believe them?
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Post by gashead1981 on Jul 21, 2022 10:17:24 GMT
The club have made many new appointments in other areas of the club, but why when safety for all fans attending games is so important they haven't appointed a new qualified safety officer. Surely with a full time person in this job it would have headed off this SAG issue weeks before this egg on the face cock up. The last safety officer must have been sacked 8 months ago, plenty of time to find a proper replacement. Perhaps Gorringe's wife can find one, she appointed David Bright. Do you have evidence of that? Not quite. David Bright was doing the same job at Glamorgan CC where he had turned around their commercial sales. Mr and Mrs G eldest plays for their female team and in a chance conversation one day, Mrs G mentioned to David that we were looking for someone so he should apply.
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Post by bluestickgas1 on Jul 21, 2022 10:30:26 GMT
Do you have evidence of that? Not quite. David Bright was doing the same job at Glamorgan CC where he had turned around their commercial sales. Mr and Mrs G eldest plays for their female team and in a chance conversation one day, Mrs G mentioned to David that we were looking for someone so he should apply. My understanding too but we know how people sometimes like to spin the narrative to meet their agenda…. It was purely making someone aware of the vacant position like everyone does … he still had to apply and go through the recruitment process….. Oh and for those saying we don’t have a safety officer or someone who has that accountability in their role - my understanding is that we do and have had for a long time!
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Jul 21, 2022 12:21:21 GMT
I thought what was the away terrace is now a home terrace for this season and that away fans would have some or all of the south stand as required? Exactly what I thought after hearing what TG had said about plans for this coming season. Well, ticketbaxxxxd think the same. I ordered a ticket on the west terrace but got one for there. What a balls up that lot really are. I can’t be arsed to phone them as it takes bloody ages to get connected to anyone and then they know nothing of us as they sell for all sorts. I guess it will be an experience.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Jul 21, 2022 12:23:25 GMT
The difference with FGR was that it wasn't during the game, which is why it's being treated differently. I'm afraid transgression of the pitch is treated as an offence whenever it's committed. Sorry. Anyone remember Mansfield? Those who will there will never forget it
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Jul 21, 2022 16:29:02 GMT
Do you have evidence of that? Not quite. David Bright was doing the same job at Glamorgan CC where he had turned around their commercial sales. Mr and Mrs G eldest plays for their female team and in a chance conversation one day, Mrs G mentioned to David that we were looking for someone so he should apply. It will be interesting to see how our sales fare when the club hits a bad patch, it's always easier to sell when success is in the air. He certainly hasn't covered himself in glory with some of his rather brusque replies to supporters regarding the season ticket fiasco, thank goodness that Clare and Pete don't take their lead from him.
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Post by mftc on Jul 21, 2022 16:54:17 GMT
Not quite. David Bright was doing the same job at Glamorgan CC where he had turned around their commercial sales. Mr and Mrs G eldest plays for their female team and in a chance conversation one day, Mrs G mentioned to David that we were looking for someone so he should apply. It will be interesting to see how our sales fare when the club hits a bad patch, it's always easier to sell when success is in the air. He certainly hasn't covered himself in glory with some of his rather brusque replies to supporters regarding the season ticket fiasco, thank goodness that Clare and Pete don't take their lead from him. I certainly don't feel we have maximised the promotion feel good factor. I am sure we could have made tens of thousands with an end of season celebration and to announce a limited attendance open day just a few weeks before the event is not great. I know a DVD and promotion book is a bit of a risk as it may not make a great profit but judging by the response on here, people were willing to pay over the odds to guarantee to cover the costs. Plus Mr B could have always reduced the cost with some form of advertising/sponsorship. Let's hope he has some good contacts and brings in some good deals to the club. At least he cannot be worse than Ralph Ellis!
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 21, 2022 19:03:09 GMT
Not quite. David Bright was doing the same job at Glamorgan CC where he had turned around their commercial sales. Mr and Mrs G eldest plays for their female team and in a chance conversation one day, Mrs G mentioned to David that we were looking for someone so he should apply. My understanding too but we know how people sometimes like to spin the narrative to meet their agenda…. It was purely making someone aware of the vacant position like everyone does … he still had to apply and go through the recruitment process…..Oh and for those saying we don’t have a safety officer or someone who has that accountability in their role - my understanding is that we do and have had for a long time! Assuming there was one? Employing somebody with no background of working in football seemed odd at the time, it would be interesting to know why our ground capacity has now decreased, rather than increased following the removal of the family stand.
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Post by axegas on Jul 21, 2022 22:45:54 GMT
My understanding too but we know how people sometimes like to spin the narrative to meet their agenda…. It was purely making someone aware of the vacant position like everyone does … he still had to apply and go through the recruitment process…..Oh and for those saying we don’t have a safety officer or someone who has that accountability in their role - my understanding is that we do and have had for a long time! Assuming there was one? Employing somebody with no background of working in football seemed odd at the time, it would be interesting to know why our ground capacity has now decreased, rather than increased following the removal of the family stand. Why should it be odd? He's head of sales, and is practically doing the same job here as he was doing at Glamorgan. Maintaining our relations with sponsors, finding innovative ways to increase our revenue streams. If we were to only appoint people with experience in the football industry for business related positions, we'd be needlessly limiting the pool of talent we recruit from as well as preventing us from learning from approaches in other sporting industries.
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