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Post by Icegas on Jul 19, 2019 12:42:17 GMT
Were there reporting restrictions in place and did he live stream before the restrictions were lifted? Was there a linked trial where the jury was still to reach a verdict and did two of the defendant's lawyers try and get it classed as an unfair trial on the back of the livestream? That is my understanding of it, happy to be corrected. Yaxley-Lennon filmed and confronted defendants during a case which had reporting restrictions. He was aware of the restrictions and was aware he was in contempt of court, and pleaded guilty. Not sure what the crying is about. No, incorrect. He was aware of the reporting restrictions and NEVER BROKE THEM.There was video of him asking a police officer outside Leeds court this.He never "confronted" the guilty.He asked them how they were feeling about the case.He is free to do so as a part of the free press.Look how Robinson has done to him at each court case he has ever been to himself including the other week. Tommy is not an Alt/far right racist as the mainstream media tells everyone he is.He a good,honest,working man with the biggest pair of bolloxs in the UK trying and expose some of the pure evil that is happening to our girls at the hands of islam. There are hundreds of videos of Tommys backing this and the medias corruption against him that have been taken down as he has been deplatformed off socal media. My only problem with Tommy is he knew that by going to that Leeds court case he was going to give the law a bullet to fire at him.And they sadly that day they hit the bulls eye.
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Post by Icegas on Jul 18, 2019 23:37:22 GMT
Sorry to be disrespectful as you copy and pasted that, but the source of that piece is dogshit. care to explain how Chris Daw QC is wrong? Tommy went and asked the opinion of these pedo rapists within the rights of the media laws in this country after the judge had akready made judgement on the case, and everything Tommy then said after was printed on the BBC news website,which is where he was reading from when arrested.Info open to the public.He broke now law in doing so. Do some research from other sources than just the main stream media outlets Mr Spout.
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Post by Icegas on Jul 17, 2019 23:47:58 GMT
He didnt break any court reporting restrictions thats the point. He was thrown in prison within 5 hrs of being arrested in Leeds and spent 12 weeks?.. in jail which is unheard of! The case about reporting restrictions were dropped by the highest judge in our land as it was wrong.But they wanted to nail Tommy on some charge (or had to after his panodrama was released after he came out of prison) so they jailed him for "intimidating" convicted muslim pedo grooming gang members when they were walking by him outside the court, which is a complete joke as he just asked them how they were feeling about the case as the media can do. (Look at Tommy walking to Court last week it happened there) If you follow Tommy Robinson or any of his work you would know that in no way does his think of himself as above the law. www.independent.co.uk/voices/tommy-robinson-sentencing-prison-jail-hearing-years-grooming-contempt-court-a8999366.htmlAll of us are subject to the law of the land. That law includes the Contempt of Court Act 1981, which makes clear that nothing about an “active” criminal case can be published, if it “creates a substantial risk that the course of justice in the proceedings in question will be seriously impeded or prejudiced”. This is the general rule and it applies to all stages of a criminal case from the moment a suspect is even arrested. Generally, the law does not prevent reporting events from inside the courtroom, provided that it amounts to a “fair and accurate report of legal proceedings held in public, published contemporaneously and in good faith.” However, there are many cases where publication, even of the proceedings in court, may create a risk of prejudice, either to the case being tried or to a future trial. In such cases, the trial judge has the power to make an order under s.4(2) of the Act, postponing the reporting of any part of the trial, for a long as necessary, to eliminate that risk as far as possible. The maximum sentence for contempt of court is two years in prison. In the case of Stephen Yaxley-Lennon (aka “Tommy Robinson”), there was a s.4(2) order in place preventing the publication of details of “Trial 1” (a public grooming trial) whilst further linked trials remained in the pipeline and, crucially, before the jury had returned its verdicts.
Ignoring that order completely, Yaxley-Lennon streamed full details of the defendants in the trial via Facebook Live, published a video “encouraging his followers to harass the defendants”, and “photographed and intimidated” them as they entered court.There are further protections of those attending court buildings, preventing behaviour which might otherwise interfere with justice or disrupt proceedings. Everyone attending a criminal court has the fundamental right to do safely and peacefully. The judge’s power to postpone reporting is used most often when the court is dealing with a series of trials, whether of the same defendant(s), or arising out of the same police investigation. The purpose of the order is to ensure that the jury, either in the ongoing trial or some future trial, does not hear evidence, via the traditional media or online, which may be inadmissible or otherwise prejudicial to the trial process. In my 26 years of practice in the criminal courts, I cannot recall a more blatant, serious or disruptive contempt of court, by publication, than that carried out by Yaxley-Lennon in this case. It is clear from the sentence handed out to him of nine months (although he will be committed in prison for 19 weeks and will serve up to one half of that period) that the court felt the same way. It is fundamental to the fairness of every criminal trial that the jury’s verdict is based on what jurors hear in the courtroom, under the watchful eye and legal control of the judge, and not on anything they have heard elsewhere. Every jury is now directed in strong terms, under threat of imprisonment, not to search for information about the case online and to disregard anything they may inadvertently see in the press, or on television. Professional journalists are well aware of the restrictions to prevent contempt of court, and are generally assiduous in ensuring that they abide by orders of the court. They are wise to do so, if they want to remain in long-term employment, as the offence is one of strict liability, meaning that a journalist (and their employer) is criminally liable for publishing seriously prejudicial material, even if there was no intent to do so. There have been many cases, in recent years, of contempt by social media users, but none so provocative, deliberate and widely publicised as that of Yaxley-Lennon in the Leeds Crown Court case. What seems to have failed to strike home with Yaxley-Lennon’s vocal band of supporters, in particular on social media, is that the whole point of reporting restrictions is to protect the integrity of the trial process for everyone. Yes, it is about ensuring a fair trial for the defendants but, equally, the sort of prejudicial conduct, engaged in by Yaxley-Lennon, can lead to the collapse of some very serious cases. The consequences of such a development always fall most heavily on the victims, who may have to endure the experience of giving evidence all over again, at a retrial, or, worst of all, may see the charges dropped altogether, allowing their abusers to go free. And all because an attention-seeking agitator, with a webcam and a big mouth, decides that the law does not apply to him. Yaxley-Lennon was convicted by Mr Justice Warby, a senior High Court Judge, and the newly appointed President of the Queen’s Bench Division, Dame Victoria Sharp, one of the most senior judges of the Court of Appeal. They found that his behaviour “amounted to a serious interference with the administration of justice”, including his “aggressive confronting and filming of the defendants”. Chris Daw QC is a barrister who specialises in serious and complex criminal cases Sorry to be disrespectful as you copy and pasted that, but the source of that piece is dogshit.
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Post by Icegas on Jul 17, 2019 23:45:52 GMT
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Post by Icegas on Jul 17, 2019 23:45:16 GMT
The pedo thing I dont know too much about but I can given you the benifit of the doubt as I dont know much info. The cocaine use - where is any proof? There was a whats app video going around online last year where Tommy was drunk on hoilday and said in "Joking way" to his friends about getting some charlie. This video was leaked and sold by one of so called mates to the media.There was no proof was ever so that he used coke or any charges just a report in the papers. Where has he assualted police officers? or intimidating any journalists? If your talking about that """journalist""" Mike Stuchbery where Tommy Knocked on his front door at 5am? Do you know how this came about? why it happened? Who was wrong? What reason Tommy was there? I wish people would stop believing everything in the main stream media and do some other reading research before quoting.
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Post by Icegas on Jul 17, 2019 13:28:59 GMT
Also dont know what that piece has to do with why Tommy is in jail today. Agree, that piece has nothing to do with why Robinson is in jail today, but shows similarity of character to Barton??
He's in jail today, because he believes he's above the law:
"The idea that his conviction for contempt of court is evidence of state oppression rather ignores the fact that Robinson himself knew he risked imprisonment when he decided to broadcast the footage of the defendants. He knew that the trial came with reporting restrictions, and he still decided to risk breaking them."
He didnt break any court reporting restrictions thats the point. He was thrown in prison within 5 hrs of being arrested in Leeds and spent 12 weeks?.. in jail which is unheard of! The case about reporting restrictions were dropped by the highest judge in our land as it was wrong.But they wanted to nail Tommy on some charge (or had to after his panodrama was released after he came out of prison) so they jailed him for "intimidating" convicted muslim pedo grooming gang members when they were walking by him outside the court, which is a complete joke as he just asked them how they were feeling about the case as the media can do. (Look at Tommy walking to Court last week it happened there) If you follow Tommy Robinson or any of his work you would know that in no way does his think of himself as above the law.
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Post by Icegas on Jul 17, 2019 12:29:06 GMT
The BBC.......😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😁😁😁😁😁😁😀😀😀😊😊😊😊😊😊😅😅😅😅😅😅😙😙😙😘😘😍😍😍🙈🙈🙈🙈 Oh bless...👍 Also dont know what that piece has to do with why Tommy is in jail today.
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Post by Icegas on Jul 17, 2019 12:27:37 GMT
Tommy Robinson is a highly thoughtful, intelligent,knowledgeable and an innocent man and should not be in jail for the next 8/9 weeks as he committed no crime .While Barton is a thick ex pro soccer player- a thug and a bully that will no doubt get off his crime. - Big difference between the two.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-15117961
The BBC.......😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😁😁😁😁😁😁😀😀😀😊😊😊😊😊😊😅😅😅😅😅😅😙😙😙😘😘😍😍😍🙈🙈🙈🙈 Oh bless...👍
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Post by Icegas on Jul 17, 2019 12:25:58 GMT
Tommy Robinson is a highly thoughtful, intelligent,knowledgeable and an innocent man and should not be in jail for the next 8/9 weeks as he committed no crime .While Barton is a thick ex pro soccer player- a thug and a bully that will no doubt get off his crime. - Big difference between the two. Not sure if serious... Why? And Im Very. It wateres me off when people are so unversed in a subject like Tommy Robinson yet brand him as whatever they hear he is on TV or in the papers.
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Post by Icegas on Jul 17, 2019 12:02:02 GMT
Put him in a cell with Tommy Robinson and let 'em fight it out. Tommy Robinson is a highly thoughtful, intelligent,knowledgeable and an innocent man and should not be in jail for the next 8/9 weeks as he committed no crime .While Barton is a thick ex pro soccer player- a thug and a bully that will no doubt get off his crime. - Big difference between the two.
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Post by Icegas on Jul 15, 2019 10:36:20 GMT
I agree Billy and Muzzy were both great to watch. I met a Middlesborough fan who said Muzzy had a terrible attitude there. I would have had him back! If we both of thoses players were playing for us in todays side at there best then I think we would have a side that could get promotion from L1.With Wally walters are the 2 best wingers Ive seen in a Rovers shirt.
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Post by Icegas on Jul 15, 2019 10:27:04 GMT
I agree Billy and Muzzy were both great to watch. I met a Middlesborough fan who said Muzzy had a terrible attitude there. I would have had him back! If we both of thoses players were playing for us in todays side at there best then I think we would have a side that could get promotion from L1.With Wally walters are the 2 best wingers Ive seen in a Rovers shirt.
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Post by Icegas on Jul 14, 2019 20:34:25 GMT
Forget the red trim I think that is a horrible kit anyway, I also dont get all the lovin for them, so they play in a kit that looked a bit like ours, ok then let's start liking Wycome aswell I think that there kit looks alot better than ours from last season - which Imho wasl the same level of pukeness as the snackbox Tesco one of 1996. The red trim makes that shirt look better,its better than when we had red shirt numbers on one of our home kits from a few years ago. Also quite like us having a special bond with them given our unquie kits designs.
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Post by Icegas on Jul 10, 2019 23:58:52 GMT
This afternoon I met up with my best mate who is a shithead for a drink along Glos rd.
We popped to the Mem as I wanted to go to our shop to buy a shirt, but it was closed when we got there.
Anyway we had a quick look around the Mem and he said while its a dated stadium it has such a unique character and feel about it.
We both agreed that if we could build a Lansdown 2 tier like stand where the Blue stand is 7- 10k and a Atyeo sized stand where the south stand is then then we could keep the West stand and Blackthrone end as they are and have a great looking ground that could hold 20-24k.
I know Glos Rd lefties/Rose are the problem,as is parking.But there is a huge area still at Mem for development if funding could be found.
If planning was granted how much would that construction cost? £10-£15m. I hope its been looked at.
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Post by Icegas on Jul 10, 2019 10:49:09 GMT
We nearly got relegated because we created so few chances per game last season. A lot of that was because we had Kelly and JC at fullback - how many crosses into the box per game do you reckon they got compared to Brown/Leadbitter in previous years? Your defence can be the best in the league (ours was away from home) but if you don’t have attacking intent you will draw/lose games. Just the way the modern game is. Sorry if this is an old fashioned concept; Goalkeeper - stop the ball from going in the net Defenders - defend and cut out scoring opportunities Midfield - CREATE!! Strikers - score goals
That's the bottom line. Anything else is a bonus.
100% right. Football is a very basic game that is over thought by people due to the TV world and how puntits touch there touch screen tvs and show us all these different formations! Bottom line is "soccer" is a basic sport of 11 vs 11....The managers role at any club is to try to sign the best players for his club within his budget.And get them to try and win a match. Give me a 4-4-2 attacking minded manager ( like fergie or Keegan ) anyday of the week.
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Post by Icegas on Jul 8, 2019 5:06:41 GMT
Think the club need to look and replicate there branding like in America, New York yankees for instance a global brand that people wear and see as fashionable, same for other nfl, nba etc. When you look at our branding and badge it’s pretty crap to be fair. I think our badge is one of the best in football and I wouldnt change it at all.Sure a few years ago we won awards for it? It .Still looks new and fresh and its 20 years old now. The branding of our club and the lack of use of Irene, the quarters, the Gas,the pirates nicknames etc... is awlful tho.
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Post by Icegas on Jul 6, 2019 18:42:34 GMT
If that midfield and foward line remains the same then we will have a worse or at ""very best"" a no better a season than last season.I would grade the signings so far as a very healthy 7/10..Very soild,but our defence wasnt the problem last year it was attack.JCH saved us last season when our offence was awlful in terms of quality. If we dont add two good strikers and 2 wingers,plus even a creative CM then we are going to struggle.If our midfield and attack starts the same as it ended last season it will be shocking and a pure disgrace and we will deserve to go down come May 2020. Cogs did say we couldn't do everything in one season See I like Cogs, I really do..DC is like a god in my eyes for what he did for our football club at its most important and most testing time in our history.But GC is a perfect,if very different replacement that Im really happy with thus far.He seems to get us as a club just like DC did. Like I scored earlier, his signings in the GK and Defence department - on top of Ogogo and JHC in Jan are a 7 plus out of 10 so far IMHO.Cogs signing at L1 level thus far are much better that DC's by a large margin I might add.And Im a DC fanboy! But our problems were in attack last season,scoring goals.So unless that is addressed we will have the same problems as last year.As good as JHC is,or could be he is far from proven year after year.Thats starts in August. And if TN is our 2nd striker then we're not going to score from our frontline unless JCH does,which is a concern at any level.
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Post by Icegas on Jul 6, 2019 14:29:02 GMT
Team wise I'd go,
Anssi Jaakkola
Tony Craig Mark Little Tom Davies Josh Hare
Liam Sercombe Ollie Clarke (C)
Alex Rodman Abumere Ogogo
Tom Nicholls Clarke-Harris
That's virtually the same forward line as last season which failed to score away from home unless JCH popped up with a worldy, somehow we've got to get in a decent LB, unless Bennett gets a second chance, and a new No 10, assuming JCH will be fit. We probably now need another LB as rumours about THD seem, regretfully, true. If that midfield and foward line remains the same then we will have a worse or at ""very best"" a no better a season than last season.I would grade the signings so far as a very healthy 7/10..Very soild,but our defence wasnt the problem last year it was attack.JCH saved us last season when our offence was awlful in terms of quality. If we dont add two good strikers and 2 wingers,plus even a creative CM then we are going to struggle.If our midfield and attack starts the same as it ended last season it will be shocking and a pure disgrace and we will deserve to go down come May 2020.
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Post by Icegas on Jul 6, 2019 13:01:00 GMT
I think we are good in our GK and defence now.GC has replaced what we lost,and improved it maybe.Happy with work done there. We are still at least one striker short (an experieced player that can get 10-15 goals) and a young loan talent from a premiership club. My main concern is our midfield.We need 2 wingers and a creative player as we were very lucky when JCH saved us last season. You think Nichols will start banging in a few? I really hope so. Nichols should be 4th,or 5th in line to start for us this season. He has had his chance over 2 seasons and has failed to do the job of scoring goals for us.Not saying get rid,and would have him as a sub most weeks as he has talent and adds somethibg to us in his play, but he is not as a goalscorer as he can not and will not score goals for us. In order I would go 1st: JCH 2nd: A new signing (older player who can get 10/15 goals a season) 3rd: Young Loan striker 4th: Reilly 5th: Nicholls 6th: Moore
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Post by Icegas on Jul 6, 2019 12:49:13 GMT
I think we are good in our GK and defence now.GC has replaced what we lost,and improved it maybe.Happy with work done there.
We are still at least one striker short (an experieced player that can get 10-15 goals) and a young loan talent from a premiership club.
My main concern is our midfield.We need 2 wingers and a creative player as we were very lucky when JCH saved us last season and if not adressed we will have a season like last one .
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