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Post by oldgas on Oct 21, 2020 16:55:08 GMT
Questions for Oldgas and Eric, what happened to the pound after the referendum and what tariffs and quotas will you see under WTO? I think we're all aware the value of the pound dropped. You however state in another post that after 4 years it still hasn't recovered, well the the pound still hasn't recovered to level it was prior to December 30th 2008 when it recorded its lowest ever value at £1.02. In fact I recall at one point getting less than a euro to the pound around that time. I would say the pound was on the road to recovery as in February this year, just prior to the coronavirus outbreak, the pound was at a post Brexit high of €1.2046. You're not going to get any of the traitor turn-coat EU loving Tory bashing members on here harking back to Labour government failures. La La La La La old chap.
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Post by oldgas on Oct 21, 2020 7:59:18 GMT
I honestly don't think we're up there with the dark arts pedigree of Sunderland and Fleetwood - which I hasten to add I would not want to be. Yes Jaakola takes his time when we're up and yes we take our time when the ball is dead but I think that is pretty middle of the road stuff and good game management if you want to call it that. Mourinho wants Spurs to be bastards to win. You can do that without crossing over to the dark arts I reckon. When the subs were made tonight we were much better with keeping the ball at the right end of the pitch, preventing any threat to our goal. When it comes to the Dark Arts there is nothing to compare with the antics that horrible Wycombe team used to employ. I don't think they're doing that in the Champ at the moment to hold onto a draw or win, but they may do it to stop themselves getting properly toned every week!
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Post by oldgas on Oct 21, 2020 7:11:28 GMT
I have come to the conclusion, and we need to accept it, that all the league one refs are poor. I've always had the opinion that League one refs are either not good enough to make the step up the pyramid, or weren't good enough and have been demoted. League two on the other hand is full of hungry up and coming referee whose next step is the Championship or Prem. I haven't checked, but don't they referee across both leagues? I agree with the other comments about the ref, he stood and watched several fouls against us happen in front of him and let them go, almost as if he wanted Shrewsbury to score. Although BG didn't make specific reference in his interview I'm sure his report will reflect his views.
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Post by oldgas on Oct 21, 2020 7:01:47 GMT
How much lower was the pound BEFORE Covid than immediately after the referendum result?
What about Barniers comment about making it so unattractive to leave we’d opt to stay. Did you see that fly on the wall documentary where that lady garden Verstoph was gouging red wine and refusing to engage with an MP and when he’d left that Irish woman praised him for putting that Tory in his place, or when he came over and supported Vince Cable during the Euro elections?
And tariffs will only be decided by us? I must have missed the bit when the EU said they’d trade tariff free. That must have got lost under Macron shouting about how there was going to be no change in fishing arrangements.
Stuart. What are your views on poverty. Do you see children wandering the streets, malnourished, black with soot from the chimneys and shoeless in the winter? Are all those satellite dishes on houses in Council estate areas all fake to make it look like the residents have the service?
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Post by oldgas on Oct 20, 2020 21:25:41 GMT
A poor attempt at deflection there. Face it, you know I’m right and you have no argument. So you employ the usual socialist tactic of eyes tight shut, fingers in ears and La la la la la. Let's be frank. Can you point me to a link, to a body of work, to some empirical evidence that support your comments on here? Let's take your last wild claim. This "There is no poverty in Southmead or any other part of this country. Those people seem to think they’re poor if the fridge isn’t stacked with booze, they’ve no fags, and they haven’t got a 50” plasma TV and Sky TV with full film and sports package. They eat sh** ready meals and McDonalds and never buy fresh fruit and veg, because it’s too expensive! And I do know what I’m talking about because I worked in that and other similar areas for 40 years." What evidence can you bring to support that? Just saying that you "worked" there is meaningless, unless you qualify that statement by telling us what relevance your work entailed. Without that it's just another wild claim that you make, shouting at your own reflection. I’m not going to tell you what I did because it’s none of your business. Just accept I was working among and dealing with the communities I have mentioned on a daily basis over 40+ years and there was no poverty, just poor decision making and a refusal to take responsibility for themselves and their families. I note your arrogant and unnecessary dig at ice cream vendors, flies in the face of your championing of the working class, of which I am a member. So I am not shouting at the mirror, I know what I’ve seen and witnessed 1st hand, and if you want to ignore that and hide behind Guardian articles then crack on sunshine, it makes no difference to me. I’veq no doubt that you are even now screwing your eyes shut, putting your fingers in your ears and singing La La La La La.
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Post by oldgas on Oct 20, 2020 21:12:51 GMT
Questions for Oldgas and Eric, what happened to the pound after the referendum and what tariffs and quotas will you see under WTO? Of course the pound dropped for a bit but it soon recovered when the markets realised the sun continued to rise each morning and the moon waxed and waned every 28 days. These tariffs will only be applied by the EU through bloody mindedness, and we will reciprocate, and I put that sentence in that context because all along the EU have sought to punish us for daring to leave. I’ll ask again, you want to be part of an organisation that treats its members like That? As for these tariffs , I wonder how keen the major German, French and Italian car makers will be on that? I was having a sort-out a few days ago and I came across that Remain pamphlet sent to every household before the 2016 referendum. What a complete and utter pack of lies. Cameron was a lying twat, saying he had negotiated real concessions. Lying Bastard and I’m so glad the people had the good sense to ignore that utter waste of £9 million of tax payers money. Don't worry about Brexit. We will be fine.
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Post by oldgas on Oct 20, 2020 19:25:44 GMT
I thought we used a few lives up there. We let them play through us time and time again and rarely won the loose or 50/50 ball. On another day Shrews could have scored 3 but never mind, they didn’t. Garner needs to tighten the midfield because it’s like a sieve, and it’s been that way in every game I’ve watched. don't agree the midfield is weak - I'd say the defence look a bit vulnerable to balls slid into channels behind them - we are not the quickest at the back. That’s true but the midfield are letting too many attacks get through, they’re not protecting the back 3 enough.
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Post by oldgas on Oct 20, 2020 19:10:51 GMT
I thought we used a few lives up there. We let them play through us time and time again and rarely won the loose or 50/50 ball. On another day Shrews could have scored 3 but never mind, they didn’t.
Garner needs to tighten the midfield because it’s like a sieve, and it’s been that way in every game I’ve watched.
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Post by oldgas on Oct 20, 2020 8:02:57 GMT
Yes in comparing the attitude to them from the left, I’m not justifying anything. Any economic issue caused by brexit is a disaster, a bigger economic problem from another cause can be overcome!! I get that the bitterness lingers with Remainers but this continuous leaping on any bit of perceived bad news and then painting it as catastrophic is tiresome. Covid has caused a 20% reduction in our economic output which is a disaster, compounded if we follow your intinct and not support the economy. The virus is the cause of it, nobody wants it or voted for it, the Government could have managed it better but there we are. With any luck we will be on top of it next year Brexit will cause an immediate downturn in our economy, by a big factor if we exit the EU on WTO terms. That's the short term. Longer term leaving the world's largest Free Trade Zone will suppress our growth potential below trend (2.5% PA) The net of that is that in ten years we will be considerably less well off than we would have been, and our balance sheet is wrecked by 10 years of austerity and now the need to spend in this Pandemic. Apart from the Pandemic that's what leavers voted for. Interesting point that, Oldie. How could the government have handled the situation better. Your friends in Europe, where our salvation lies according to you, have suffered as badly and are in some cases suffering worse than us. How would PM Oldie have dealt with Covid, by cancelling Brexit?
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Post by oldgas on Oct 19, 2020 7:50:45 GMT
Whatever floats your boat. How much did you sell 99ers for? A poor attempt at deflection there. Face it, you know I’m right and you have no argument. So you employ the usual socialist tactic of eyes tight shut, fingers in ears and La la la la la.
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Post by oldgas on Oct 19, 2020 7:48:41 GMT
Too much. I thought you knew these things or is it a Socrastic question? That’s a word I haven’t seen used in a long time. Its a genuine question because I don’t know and I thought you might be able to enlighten me with your intimate knowledge of all things Appertaining the EU. However a little research reveals the figure as being around 117 million euros per annum. 117 mill just to satisfy French vanity. I’ve no doubt that’s a massaged down figure, and takes no account of the time wasted when no-ones doing any work because they’re too busy moving. And you advocate staying within an organisation that casually wastes OUR tax payer contributions enriching Monsieur Peekfords removal business?
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Post by oldgas on Oct 19, 2020 7:39:42 GMT
I’m not prepared to say because it’s not relevant. Just accept I spent 40 years working amongst the residents of the inner city and surrounding social housing estates of our great city. Ah, The Ice Cream Man A real insight. Whatever floats your boat.
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Post by oldgas on Oct 18, 2020 20:49:26 GMT
Really? Did it say how much the regular upheavals to Strasbourg cost? Yes. How much?
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Post by oldgas on Oct 18, 2020 20:19:19 GMT
It's hard not to feel a bit of sympathy seeing him fronting up and bullshitting his way through the interview, all the while looking like he's got someone holding a blunt, rusty knife against his bollocks. However, we should never forget the timing, or the two-faced devious way he treated us. Karma can be a bitch. You mean when Wael told him there was no money for the January window? or do you mean he took us to the highest spot we have been in for 20 years. Who said Wael told him there was no money? Only Coughlan, and if he told me the date I’d check my calendar. That Radford bloke at Mansfield wanted to replace his manager and wanted Coughlan. He approached him and offered 30 pieces of silver. Coughlan asked to be released from his contract with us and he was told no. The 2 faced Banned word then made his emotional outburst in the Ipswich after match interview and sent Radford the message. Radford fired his manager and surprise, surprise, Coughlan resigned and went to Mansfield, taking his mate Dunne with him. He tried to get Maher but the bloke had enough sense to stay here, probably knowing what a charlatan Coughlan is. What really did it for me was when he went on ‘Having a Gas’ the following week, spinning his I missed my family bullshit to 20pence when he’d lived in the South without any dramas for at least 8 years. There’s actually no bar to moving your family to the area where you live, especially when you’re being paid handsomely to do your job. The blokes a lying, cheating asshole, and he’s getting his comeuppance.
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Post by oldgas on Oct 18, 2020 19:59:22 GMT
fullfact.org/europe/did-auditors-sign-eu-budget/It seems Stuart’s claim can be open to interpretation. Who’d have thought you can’t really trust the EU. The only year their accounts were authorised 2016, was when the EUs own auditors signed them off. Rat and smell, anyone?
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Post by oldgas on Oct 18, 2020 19:54:23 GMT
And the EU does? Ill ask again, do you have any faith in an organisation that hasn’t produced certified accounts for 10 years and spends countless millions, we’ll never know because they don’t produce certified accounts, in moving the EU Parliament from Brussels to Strasbourg several times a year to satisfy French arrogance? Do you not have just the tiniest concern at the billions of euros spent on European countries infrastructure, things that benefit us not one jot, but towards which we pay huge amounts to the detriment of our own country and people? I’ve never read or heard any Remainer explain or justify these points, they always just ignore and swerve them. AS for Gassy's question about lack of a deal, do you think it will cease entirely on 1st Jan 2021, and do you think the EU might just need to trade with us as well? They’ll find it difficult to replace our market for their Audis,VW, Seat and Skoda, Fiats, Citroen’s, Renaults, Peugeot’s etc etc. Im sure you get my point. Am I on ignore or something? Accounts have been made and signed off. As for the rest, we've covered much of that over the last 500 pages and more. Really? Did it say how much the regular upheavals to Strasbourg cost?
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Post by oldgas on Oct 18, 2020 19:12:11 GMT
Like you know what you are talking about...😂😂😂 Probably more than you, old boy. Running to the Guardian for your facts and figures.
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Post by oldgas on Oct 18, 2020 19:10:05 GMT
What’s the hat article got to do with Brexit? All it illustrates is that a proportion of British people won’t control their louche lifestyle and are quite happy to eat, smoke and drink themselves into an early grave. I always remember an article in the Post by that idiot George Ferguson complaining about the 8 year difference in lifespan between the adjoining districts of Southmead and Henleaze, and vowing to introduce measures to even this up. I was never quite sure how he was going to reduce life expectancy of Henleaze residents by 8 years, but there you go, he was Labour. There is no poverty in Southmead or any other part of this country. Those people seem to think they’re poor if the fridge isn’t stacked with booze, they’ve no fags, and they haven’t got a 50” plasma TV and Sky TV with full film and sports package. They eat sh** ready meals and McDonalds and never buy fresh fruit and veg, because it’s too expensive! And I do know what I’m talking about because I worked in that and other similar areas for 40 years. "And I do know what I’m talking about because I worked in that and other similar areas for 40 years." Doing what precisely? I’m not prepared to say because it’s not relevant. Just accept I spent 40 years working amongst the residents of the inner city and surrounding social housing estates of our great city.
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Post by oldgas on Oct 18, 2020 19:03:57 GMT
On that basis were doomed😯 No, not quite. What happens is we subjugate our food standards, our environmental standards, our employment regulations, our corporate tax regulations on the alter of a trade deal with America, celebrate and claim it as a game changer when the economic value will be less than our current arrangement with the EU. However if Trump loses, the Democrats may well tighten their own rules, the trouble is they, the Democrats have no time for Johnson and frown upon us leaving the EU. Taking back control, my ass. Utter, utter rubbish.
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Post by oldgas on Oct 18, 2020 19:01:36 GMT
I’ve just realised, I’ve achieved Rickie Lambert status.
Get in!
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