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Post by bambergashead on May 17, 2023 16:27:23 GMT
When was Barton sent off? I was at the game and remember him getting booked (on 87 minutes - just checked iFollow) so WTF happened after that?
Edit: I think Mangan then got booked after the final whistle as he was walking off the pitch, so it must have all kicked off after that when iFollow was no longer active.
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Post by A Source (aka Angry Badger) on May 17, 2023 16:31:50 GMT
Can we have 3 friendlies and take those games for the ban. Ivan Toney gets banned for 8 months with immediate effect so a bit of that will be during the close season.
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Post by Squiffy on May 17, 2023 16:49:50 GMT
Can we have 3 friendlies and take those games for the ban. Ivan Toney gets banned for 8 months with immediate effect so a bit of that will be during the close season. I see they also referenced JB’s betting ban in the Toney scandal for balance! Once you have a reputation… www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65626690
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Post by kentgas on May 17, 2023 17:08:23 GMT
Can we have 3 friendlies and take those games for the ban. Ivan Toney gets banned for 8 months with immediate effect so a bit of that will be during the close season. The ban covers first team competitive fixtures next season unfortunately.
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Post by eric on May 17, 2023 17:30:49 GMT
Can we have 3 friendlies and take those games for the ban. Ivan Toney gets banned for 8 months with immediate effect so a bit of that will be during the close season. The ban covers first team competitive fixtures next season unfortunately. We need a two legged Glos Cup final………… plus a replay
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Post by gasandelectricity on May 17, 2023 17:52:49 GMT
Isn't a 3 game stadium a bit disproportionate though? If he'd squared to the ref, held him against a wall, chased him down a tunnel or something of that nature I could understand it. But a bit of verbal sledging is worthy of a stadium ban? Do you know the exact words he said to the referee then? Do you?!?!
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Post by gasandelectricity on May 17, 2023 17:53:20 GMT
Jeez this is exactly what the anti Barton brigade will love to see. The refereeing has been crap so he's right to call it out for what it is. Don't think he'll be able to mike up with someone in the stadium however how they police that would be interesting. Worst comes to the worst he can call me up and I'll shout out to the dugout! We have had plenty of other managers who have made complaints about the standard of refereeing. You say the anti Barton brigade will love to see this but, when you have already been red carded then you must make a decision on whether to keep quiet or carry it on. He chose the latter. It’s nowt to do with anti Barton but on doing the right thing , that’s how i see it. It really is not difficult. I did not know they could ban you from the ground though. Thing is you’d complain even if he didn’t get sent off!
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2023 17:59:06 GMT
Do you know the exact words he said to the referee then? Do you?!?! No, which is why I haven’t commented on wether it’s a fair or unfair outcome.
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Post by Topper Gas on May 17, 2023 18:04:09 GMT
I thought the Marquis goal v Sheff Weds looked offside at the time so it seems a bit odd JB lost the plot after that decision, when there have been far worse decisions this season and it was hardly a crucial match to lose.
If JB was sent off in the 85th minute then how did he manage to verbally abuse the officials in the tunnel, had he been stood waiting for them in the tunnel for 10 or so minutes after he was sent off?
Let's hope we don't now lose the appeal and the FA don't then decide to add an extra game to the suspension.
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Post by gasandelectricity on May 17, 2023 18:04:41 GMT
No, which is why I haven’t commented on wether it’s a fair or unfair outcome. We will never know the full facts I imagine. So this will all be conjecture and supposition. For it to be a 3 game ban it must have been considerably bad. Question is if he was just telling them as it is or if it was in some way threatening. I expect there’s an element of repeat offending swaying the ban though.
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Post by badengas on May 17, 2023 18:07:48 GMT
A 3 match ban seems harsh until you think that a player would get the same.
Should anyone, player or staff, be banned get a significant reduction in wages for the period as they cannot fulfil their duties ?
I'm tempted to give Barton leeway here, but worry that there will always be one more outburst around the corner.
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Post by Topper Gas on May 17, 2023 18:15:51 GMT
No, which is why I haven’t commented on wether it’s a fair or unfair outcome. We will never know the full facts I imagine. So this will all be conjecture and supposition. For it to be a 3 game ban it must have been considerably bad. Question is if he was just telling them as it is or if it was in some way threatening. I expect there’s an element of repeat offending swaying the ban though. JB verbally abused them in the tunnel, having already been sent off, then had a further go at them in the officials room, given JB's reputation it can't have been a pleasant experience for the officials.
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Post by Topper Gas on May 17, 2023 18:20:00 GMT
A 3 match ban seems harsh until you think that a player would get the same. Should anyone, player or staff, be banned get a significant reduction in wages for the period as they cannot fulfil their duties ? I'm tempted to give Barton leeway here, but worry that there will always be one more outburst around the corner. The worry has to be that one day he'll take it further than just having an outburst. Wael should really man up and tell him to stop criticising officials, as it doesn't seem to be helping us in any way.
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Post by lympstonegas on May 17, 2023 18:27:55 GMT
Joey is Joey and has to take accountability What gets my goat is Klopp - not a word for his disgraceful behaviour v Spurs. Always the victims
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Post by Topper Gas on May 17, 2023 18:42:53 GMT
Joey is Joey and has to take accountability What gets my goat is Klopp - not a word for his disgraceful behaviour v Spurs. Always the victims Klopp was fined £30K and he's hardly a repeat offender.
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Post by gulfofaden on May 17, 2023 18:52:37 GMT
Could go the route of rugby, get the same bad decisions but then grovel at the feet of officials?
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Post by dudelebowski on May 17, 2023 19:42:53 GMT
Joey is Joey and has to take accountability What gets my goat is Klopp - not a word for his disgraceful behaviour v Spurs. Always the victims Klopp was fined £30K and he's hardly a repeat offender. He’s been at it non stop since he arrived here😄nasty piece of work but protected by that darling of sky sports tag
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Post by rovers5charlton5 on May 17, 2023 20:08:42 GMT
I do feel a bit sorry for Joey on this one.
I stand behind the dugout on the halfway line, and the fourth official was literally sat on him all afternoon. He went over and had a word every time Joey got up, whether he was in his technical area or not. I think he spoke to Darren Moore of Sheff Wednesday once from memory.
They had his card marked from the start I'm afraid.
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Post by Topper Gas on May 17, 2023 20:33:57 GMT
I do feel a bit sorry for Joey on this one. I stand behind the dugout on the halfway line, and the fourth official was literally sat on him all afternoon. He went over and had a word every time Joey got up, whether he was in his technical area or not. I think he spoke to Darren Moore of Sheff Wednesday once from memory. They had his card marked from the start I'm afraid. Even more reason then to keep his cool if he knew the officials were on his case?
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Post by Somersetgas on May 17, 2023 21:24:51 GMT
I do feel a bit sorry for Joey on this one. I stand behind the dugout on the halfway line, and the fourth official was literally sat on him all afternoon. He went over and had a word every time Joey got up, whether he was in his technical area or not. I think he spoke to Darren Moore of Sheff Wednesday once from memory. They had his card marked from the start I'm afraid. Even more reason then to keep his cool if he knew the officials were on his case? Easier said than done sometimes, we’d all be robots if there was no emotion shown.
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