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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 4, 2024 20:13:37 GMT
All words though, why not invest in this window, JCH (just an example) is a bargain now and we’d have this sort of player bedded in for next season already? Discussed this elsewhere, I’d rather invest any money on a younger player . It might be just words ( what else could it be?) , but it’s a stated aim to reach at least the championship and it adds a bit of self imposed pressure. He didn’t need to do that . So £350K on JCH or Coburn, who's more likely to score 15+ goals this season and 20+ goals next season, plus Coburn (or any younger striker) could turn out to be another Collins or McCormick and have little value when his contract expires. Finding a young striker to score 20+ goals a season will take some doing with our present scouting network.
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Jan 4, 2024 20:13:50 GMT
Agree, couldn’t give a toss what Sh1!heads think, it’s got nothing to do with them. However as always it’s actions that will speak louder than words. I can’t say that at this moment in time I have any more confidence in this fella than anyone else that’s owned us. That’s up to you how you feel bud, But the blokes only been here a matter of months but out of interest what was you expecting by now for you not to trust him? What should he have done by now? He was willing to break our transfer record but for stuff behind the scenes that was out of his control it didn’t happen. 🤷♂️ Like I said it’s actions rather than words that matter. We didn’t actually sign JCH did we? Words were great, actions less so. It is what it is and what its mainly been throughout our entire history.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 4, 2024 20:14:56 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2024 20:16:05 GMT
All words though, why not invest in this window, JCH (just an example) is a bargain now and we’d have this sort of player bedded in for next season already? Carlisle's new American owner clearly feels differently as I doubt Luke Armstrong was a cheap signing for them. Our recent results highlight just how weak L1 is this season but the new owners seem to have no ambition to make the top 6 this season. It'll be interesting to see how they back MT in the summer as the "you don't get value in January" clearly won't apply then. Good shout re Carlisle and Gills new owner spending and rumoured after JCH. “Irene” I mean a bargain based on the £800k 3 months ago, he price has halved and they will take £400k I bet.
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Post by yattongas on Jan 4, 2024 20:19:19 GMT
Discussed this elsewhere, I’d rather invest any money on a younger player . It might be just words ( what else could it be?) , but it’s a stated aim to reach at least the championship and it adds a bit of self imposed pressure. He didn’t need to do that . So £350K on JCH or Coburn, who's more likely to score 15+ goals this season and 20+ goals next season, plus Coburn (or any younger striker) could turn out to be another Collins or McCormick and have little value when his contract expires. Finding a young striker to score 20+ goals a season will take some doing with our present scouting network. Getting a bit fed up with this conversation lol Yes JCH could sign and notch 15 goals this season and 25 next season….. he also might not ! In 2yrs time he’ll be worth nothing , will be older and slower. Coburn might also score a hatful or he might not. But if he does well he may well be worth more than we paid for him and he might well improve in 2 yrs time. its all about opinions Topper and I’d rather go a different route but understand others who would sign him.
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Post by yattongas on Jan 4, 2024 20:20:41 GMT
Carlisle's new American owner clearly feels differently as I doubt Luke Armstrong was a cheap signing for them. Our recent results highlight just how weak L1 is this season but the new owners seem to have no ambition to make the top 6 this season. It'll be interesting to see how they back MT in the summer as the "you don't get value in January" clearly won't apply then. Good shout re Carlisle and Gills new owner spending and rumoured after JCH. “Irene” I mean a bargain based on the £800k 3 months ago, he price has halved and they will take £400k I bet. Hasn’t McCann or whatever his name is recently claim they’d turned down multiple bids and the highest of those was 450k ?
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Post by buktaboy on Jan 4, 2024 20:26:51 GMT
What an absolute lemon of an interviewer. The owner says "we have big plans", the only question needed is "great, what are they?"
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Post by DrFaustus on Jan 4, 2024 20:28:55 GMT
Good shout re Carlisle and Gills new owner spending and rumoured after JCH. “Irene” I mean a bargain based on the £800k 3 months ago, he price has halved and they will take £400k I bet. Hasn’t McCann or whatever his name is recently claim they’d turned down multiple bids and the highest of those was 450k ? McAnthony is a twat. This post brought to you by www.thanksfornothing.com
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Post by socrates on Jan 4, 2024 20:38:03 GMT
Oh ffs - why do they do it? That’s just the cue for more p*sstaking from the Sh*t now . . . Who gives a feck what they think ?
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Post by socrates on Jan 4, 2024 20:38:48 GMT
I like him , seems a very similar sort of bloke to Wael.
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Post by irenegas on Jan 4, 2024 20:39:21 GMT
That’s up to you how you feel bud, But the blokes only been here a matter of months but out of interest what was you expecting by now for you not to trust him? What should he have done by now? He was willing to break our transfer record but for stuff behind the scenes that was out of his control it didn’t happen. 🤷♂️ Like I said it’s actions rather than words that matter. We didn’t actually sign JCH did we? Words were great, actions less so. It is what it is and what its mainly been throughout our entire history. But you haven’t answered the question what was you expecting from our new owners in these short few months? I don’t know where your logic is coming from 🤷♂️ Just because we’ve had carrots dangled before that these guys are going to be exactly the same. So what should they have done by now get your trust and for you to think you can’t trust them?
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Post by gashead79 on Jan 4, 2024 20:58:04 GMT
Don't mean to be picky, but he didn't say the quoted phrase. He was asked a question and said 'yes'. And that they have ambition.
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Post by stuart1974 on Jan 4, 2024 21:00:56 GMT
Don't mean to be picky, but he didn't say the quoted phrase. He was asked a question and said 'yes'. And that they have ambition. That's modern day journalism for you, click bait headlines.
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Jan 4, 2024 21:05:23 GMT
Like I said it’s actions rather than words that matter. We didn’t actually sign JCH did we? Words were great, actions less so. It is what it is and what its mainly been throughout our entire history. But you haven’t answered the question what was you expecting from our new owners in these short few months? I don’t know where your logic is coming from 🤷♂️ Just because we’ve had carrots dangled before that these guys are going to be exactly the same. So what should they have done by now get your trust and for you to think you can’t trust them? I was expecting nothing and we’ve got nothing other than Barton getting sacked and Taylor getting appointed. Nothing earth shattering and I’m not expecting anything earth shattering! The stand being built is progress but on the flip side the Fruit Market is in the bin.
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Post by richhertford on Jan 4, 2024 21:10:17 GMT
I liked it. I liked him. An owner looking beyond mid table championship. Hope is so important. I look forward to the journey. Some clubs have achieved the seemingly impossible. Why can’t it be Bristol Rovers in the premiership sometime in the future. A leader that aims high. Pretty motivated here.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jan 4, 2024 21:13:31 GMT
I liked it. I liked him. An owner looking beyond mid table championship. Hope is so important. I look forward to the journey. Some clubs have achieved the seemingly impossible. Why it can’t be Bristol Rovers in the premiership. A leader that aims high. Pretty motivated here. No offence Rich, but you always are.The country could melt into the sea and you'd make out it was a positive.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 4, 2024 21:13:43 GMT
Like I said it’s actions rather than words that matter. We didn’t actually sign JCH did we? Words were great, actions less so. It is what it is and what its mainly been throughout our entire history. But you haven’t answered the question what was you expecting from our new owners in these short few months? I don’t know where your logic is coming from 🤷♂️ Just because we’ve had carrots dangled before that these guys are going to be exactly the same. So what should they have done by now get your trust and for you to think you can’t trust them? Don't you think it's a bit odd we were going to pay £800K and £4k wages for JCH in the summer but now there's seemingly no money to buy any players in January? This has all happened on the new owners watch not Wael's.
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Post by richhertford on Jan 4, 2024 21:15:59 GMT
I liked it. I liked him. An owner looking beyond mid table championship. Hope is so important. I look forward to the journey. Some clubs have achieved the seemingly impossible. Why it can’t be Bristol Rovers in the premiership. A leader that aims high. Pretty motivated here. No offence Rich, but you always are.The country could melt into the sea and you'd make out it was a positive. 😆 That made me smile. It’s just the way I am. Be positive and hope for the best. In life, I’ve bounced back more times than a weeble.
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Post by oldmarket65 on Jan 4, 2024 21:24:41 GMT
But you haven’t answered the question what was you expecting from our new owners in these short few months? I don’t know where your logic is coming from 🤷♂️ Just because we’ve had carrots dangled before that these guys are going to be exactly the same. So what should they have done by now get your trust and for you to think you can’t trust them? Don't you think it's a bit odd we were going to pay £800K and £4k wages for JCH in the summer but now there's seemingly no money to buy any players in January? This has all happened on the new owners watch not Wael's. I think it's a bit odd the club had close to £1 million to spend on one player and If and its a big IF they don't spend some of it in January it gives a odd preception. The club drew attention to itself by this eye-watering bid and it will feel strange if we sign a rookie on free or loan. Questions will be asked what happened to this money ?. Why the u-turn ?. Will it continue or was it a one off ?. Let's wait and see what happens
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Post by gashead79 on Jan 4, 2024 21:36:13 GMT
But you haven’t answered the question what was you expecting from our new owners in these short few months? I don’t know where your logic is coming from 🤷♂️ Just because we’ve had carrots dangled before that these guys are going to be exactly the same. So what should they have done by now get your trust and for you to think you can’t trust them? Don't you think it's a bit odd we were going to pay £800K and £4k wages for JCH in the summer but now there's seemingly no money to buy any players in January? This has all happened on the new owners watch not Wael's. How is there seemingly no money? Do clubs in our league often spend big money in January? The main money moves for clubs like ours is preseason. We've got annual budgets which are probably less flexible than Manchester City's. I feel that we might spend money if the right deal presents itself, a bit like the JCH saga. That came from nothing and it wasn't as if he was a realistic target until the last few days of speculation. Edit. Perhaps we are preparing for an all out assault with the new manager, with a fresh run from August🤷♂️ It would give him a chance to construct preseason, bed in the new coach(es), and shape the side.
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