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Post by SleepyGas on Jan 5, 2024 10:33:49 GMT
You don't even say you're going to win a game, let alone win 2 promotions. Remember how Barton used to do the opposition team talks for them? Because he used to say how poor the opposition squad was compared to ours! Remember the "Europe in 5 years" comment from LJ that we all laugh at? It was much the same. My first reaction was, 9 points off the play offs with a game in hand and only "a little bit of business" in the Jan window and you want to get to the prem! We need a striker, a left back/LWB, a centre half and maybe another midfielder and we're not going to get all of those when we're in a decent position, but you want to get to the prem? You have been here 6 months, what's your plan to move us forward? Not a plan that says you're going to get us to the prem, but an actual plan, a business model, one on paper that everyone can buy in to? It sounds like we don't have one to me and we're pipedreaming our football manager success to the fans. Its pretty clear to me now that Barton was ousted due to off the field reasons. To sack someone because they expected to be challenging at the top end of the league, and then say little business will be done in January is rather conflicting. Except that they already invested in the squad and expected us to be at the top end of the league with the players we have. So any changes in January are only likely to be small tweaks rather than an expensive overhaul! "When we came this summer we invested in players and I think for that budget, comparing to the other budgets in the league, we should be around the top eight if not better. Basically, the results did not reflect what we have spent. We thought for our plans, our ideas, our vision, we thought we could go to someone else with a fresh approach that can take this team further."www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/bristol-rovers-owner-hussain-alsaeed-8865748 |
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Post by CornishPasty_Gas on Jan 5, 2024 10:40:44 GMT
Haven't got a problem with the interview. It was a weak interview by the Ross, but its hardly going to grill him too much in a 4 minute video.
Hussain isn't gonna come out and say the PL is never going to happen. He didn't give any timescales, and did say it won't be easy.
You have to believe it can be done, otherwise whats the point?!
City fans already poking fun at it. The sad reality for them is because secretly they are scared that we are actually moving forwards, on and off the field. Since Lansdown took over that shower, on the pitch they've literally improved nothing, some might argue, gone backwards. Ok, he's pummelled his tax free money into the infrastructure, and yes the stadium is nice, the training ground is second to none... the stark reality is that its been a waste of his money.
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Post by yattongas on Jan 5, 2024 10:46:34 GMT
We have a new owner who has come in and: - sacked a manager decisively as basically mid table league 1 is not good enough for this club. - Immediately paid for a new stand, giving us probably the best ground in living memory for most. Immediately paid millions as just waiting for “the project” isn’t enough, he wants it NOW. - Just put his balls on the block and told the world Bristol Rovers want top flight. This is different, I don’t care if we are called fools. This guy isn’t messing around. Just because he’s not a media guy like Wael doesn’t mean anything. Judge the man by his actions and his actions from what I can see are overwhelmingly positive. Another gem from Taylor in a recent interview was when he kind of scoffed and said “any team playing away to Bristol Rovers should find it a hard fixture” or words to that effect. This is the most self-respect this club has ever shown itself and I’m all for it. Screw the naysayers, ambition good. If you don’t believe you can; you won’t. Nice words Gulf and I fully agree . All you’ve gotta do is believe! How’s Brexit going mate ? 🙄😂 |
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Post by Goose on Jan 5, 2024 10:59:01 GMT
The thing is he was asked a direct question about the PL, a yes or no question.
He didn't lead it.
Also from his comments, I expect a fair bit of transfer movement in the summer
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Post by daniel300380 on Jan 5, 2024 11:19:18 GMT
The thing is he was asked a direct question about the PL, a yes or no question. He didn't lead it. Also from his comments, I expect a fair bit of transfer movement in the summer Exactly, if he said no, we will never have a chance, fans would have moaned about that. He couldn't win, what ever he said. |
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Post by irenegas on Jan 5, 2024 11:19:33 GMT
But you haven’t answered the question what was you expecting from our new owners in these short few months? I don’t know where your logic is coming from 🤷♂️ Just because we’ve had carrots dangled before that these guys are going to be exactly the same. So what should they have done by now get your trust and for you to think you can’t trust them? Don't you think it's a bit odd we were going to pay £800K and £4k wages for JCH in the summer but now there's seemingly no money to buy any players in January? This has all happened on the new owners watch not Wael's. I don’t think he said that their was no money, he said it’s hard to do business in January. |
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Post by trevorgas on Jan 5, 2024 11:22:09 GMT
Don't you think it's a bit odd we were going to pay £800K and £4k wages for JCH in the summer but now there's seemingly no money to buy any players in January? This has all happened on the new owners watch not Wael's. I don’t think he said that their was no money, he said it’s hard to do business in January. Correct,folk hear what they want to hear I guess |
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Post by chewbacca on Jan 5, 2024 11:22:31 GMT
Never trust any owners.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Jan 5, 2024 11:28:45 GMT
Don't you think it's a bit odd we were going to pay £800K and £4k wages for JCH in the summer but now there's seemingly no money to buy any players in January? This has all happened on the new owners watch not Wael's. I don’t think he said that their was no money, he said it’s hard to do business in January. The teds managed to get a top L1 striker in the January window some years back  There is another one available at the moment. Hard but not impossible |
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Post by socrates on Jan 5, 2024 11:38:04 GMT
Its pretty clear to me now that Barton was ousted due to off the field reasons. To sack someone because they expected to be challenging at the top end of the league, and then say little business will be done in January is rather conflicting. Except that they already invested in the squad and expected us to be at the top end of the league with the players we have. So any changes in January are only likely to be small tweaks rather than an expensive overhaul! "When we came this summer we invested in players and I think for that budget, comparing to the other budgets in the league, we should be around the top eight if not better. Basically, the results did not reflect what we have spent. We thought for our plans, our ideas, our vision, we thought we could go to someone else with a fresh approach that can take this team further."www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/bristol-rovers-owner-hussain-alsaeed-8865748No football club owner in their right mind says on the opening day of a transfer window that they’re looking to do this or that or spend loads etc . They all say it will be quiet regardless of what they have in mind. |
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Post by oldmarket65 on Jan 5, 2024 11:50:21 GMT
You don't even say you're going to win a game, let alone win 2 promotions. Remember how Barton used to do the opposition team talks for them? Because he used to say how poor the opposition squad was compared to ours! Remember the "Europe in 5 years" comment from LJ that we all laugh at? It was much the same. My first reaction was, 9 points off the play offs with a game in hand and only "a little bit of business" in the Jan window and you want to get to the prem! We need a striker, a left back/LWB, a centre half and maybe another midfielder and we're not going to get all of those when we're in a decent position, but you want to get to the prem? You have been here 6 months, what's your plan to move us forward? Not a plan that says you're going to get us to the prem, but an actual plan, a business model, one on paper that everyone can buy in to? It sounds like we don't have one to me and we're pipedreaming our football manager success to the fans. Its pretty clear to me now that Barton was ousted due to off the field reasons. To sack someone because they expected to be challenging at the top end of the league, and then say little business will be done in January is rather conflicting. Especially if we lose at Barnsley. It will show on a pro rota basis that there's hardly been any improvement in points per match since Barton. And if the reason was ' we are not in the top 8 '. Why do it if you can't give the new manager any additional resources. Either the current squad isn't good enough for top 8 or it is and results will improve . If results improve then the board is correct . If not and there are no additional. Then it's baffling!. |
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Post by SleepyGas on Jan 5, 2024 12:15:39 GMT
Its pretty clear to me now that Barton was ousted due to off the field reasons. To sack someone because they expected to be challenging at the top end of the league, and then say little business will be done in January is rather conflicting. Especially if we lose at Barnsley. It will show on a pro rota basis that there's hardly been any improvement in points per match since Barton. And if the reason was ' we are not in the top 8 '. Why do it if you can't give the new manager any additional resources. Either the current squad isn't good enough for top 8 or it is and results will improve . If results improve then the board is correct . If not and there are no additional. Then it's baffling!. It's a bit soon to start looking at PPG imo, but... We were 17th when Barton was sacked. Played 13 games, earned 11 points (average of 1.23PPG) Mangs in the interim managed us for 5 league games and earned us 8 points (average of 1.6PPG) We're now 11th and Matt Taylor has managed us for 6 league games and earned us 10 points (average 1.66PPG) Reasons to be optimistic I reckon. Draw away to Barnsley and we will have equalled Barton's points haul for the season having played 6 fewer matches! |
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Post by simon1883 on Jan 5, 2024 12:16:40 GMT
Oh ffs - why do they do it? That’s just the cue for more p*sstaking from the Sh*t now . . . it was a sh** interview from the ITV bloke and he was only looking for comments like that. |
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Post by SleepyGas on Jan 5, 2024 12:18:35 GMT
Especially if we lose at Barnsley. It will show on a pro rota basis that there's hardly been any improvement in points per match since Barton. And if the reason was ' we are not in the top 8 '. Why do it if you can't give the new manager any additional resources. Either the current squad isn't good enough for top 8 or it is and results will improve . If results improve then the board is correct . If not and there are no additional. Then it's baffling!. It's a bit soon to start looking at PPG imo, but... We were 17th when Barton was sacked. Played 13 games, earned 11 points (average of 1.23PPG) Mangs in the interim managed us for 5 league games and earned us 8 points (average of 1.6PPG) We're now 11th and Matt Taylor has managed us for 6 league games and earned us 10 points (average 1.66PPG) Reasons to be optimistic I reckon. Draw away to Barnsley and we will have equalled Barton's points haul for the season having played 6 fewer matches! Amusingly if you take the number of games we have played ( 24) and times by MT's current PPG (1.66) you get 39.84 The 8th place team in the league is Blackpool on 39 points (after 26 games) |
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Post by simon1883 on Jan 5, 2024 12:20:40 GMT
Its pretty clear to me now that Barton was ousted due to off the field reasons. To sack someone because they expected to be challenging at the top end of the league, and then say little business will be done in January is rather conflicting. Especially if we lose at Barnsley. It will show on a pro rota basis that there's hardly been any improvement in points per match since Barton. And if the reason was ' we are not in the top 8 '. Why do it if you can't give the new manager any additional resources. Either the current squad isn't good enough for top 8 or it is and results will improve . If results improve then the board is correct . If not and there are no additional. Then it's baffling!. While this might be the case, it would be interesting to see some sort of difficulty rating against the games the managers have managed. This is now all about the summer recruitment. Both the owner and MT have said there is little value in the Jan window. Does anyone know the number of players with contract expiring in the summer? |
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Post by lastminutewinner on Jan 5, 2024 12:26:34 GMT
It's a bit soon to start looking at PPG imo, but... We were 17th when Barton was sacked. Played 13 games, earned 11 points (average of 1.23PPG) Mangs in the interim managed us for 5 league games and earned us 8 points (average of 1.6PPG) We're now 11th and Matt Taylor has managed us for 6 league games and earned us 10 points (average 1.66PPG) Reasons to be optimistic I reckon. Draw away to Barnsley and we will have equalled Barton's points haul for the season having played 6 fewer matches! Amusingly if you take the number of games we have played ( 24) and times by MT's current PPG (1.66) you get 39.84 The 8th place team in the league is Blackpool on 39 points (after 26 games) It will be interesting to see how we fare without James Wilson for a few months. From memory Barton didnt have him available much but he has been present a lot more lately when results have improved. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2024 12:28:44 GMT
“We will spend a little”
In this window, you ain’t ever getting an easier division for promotion, imagine Stevenage or Oxford in the play offs over Sunderland, Shef Wed or next season, Wrexham, and coming down Shef, Rotherham, QPR or Brum City!
This is the chance to get up this season and worse case you have the players bedded in for next season like Plymouth had.
You’ve owned a football club for 5 minutes while multi million/billionaires like the Venky’s, bloke at Cardiff, Lansdown, Denise Coates have been trying for over a decade?!?!
You are not doing it spending “a little” now, why wait for the summer?
I honestly think if he said we are going for the Champions League we’d have fans applauding him.
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Post by oldmarket65 on Jan 5, 2024 12:28:57 GMT
Especially if we lose at Barnsley. It will show on a pro rota basis that there's hardly been any improvement in points per match since Barton. And if the reason was ' we are not in the top 8 '. Why do it if you can't give the new manager any additional resources. Either the current squad isn't good enough for top 8 or it is and results will improve . If results improve then the board is correct . If not and there are no additional. Then it's baffling!. It's a bit soon to start looking at PPG imo, but... We were 17th when Barton was sacked. Played 13 games, earned 11 points (average of 1.23PPG) Mangs in the interim managed us for 5 league games and earned us 8 points (average of 1.6PPG) We're now 11th and Matt Taylor has managed us for 6 league games and earned us 10 points (average 1.66PPG) Reasons to be optimistic I reckon. Draw away to Barnsley and we will have equalled Barton's points haul for the season having played 6 fewer matches! I'm talking mostly about the squad and whether it needs improving . The argument from the board was ' the club isn't in the top 8 'therefore it is underachieving. Prior to Barton our record was 4 4 5. If we lose at Barnsley it will be 9 7 9. If the squad with the current manager improves. Then my challenge is flawed as it will be the previous managers fault . If there is no improvement post Barton then the Squad isn't good enough for top 8. Therefore : what's the solution?. If the board decides not to spend in January with little improvement on the pitch. Why the revamp ?. |
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Post by oldmarket65 on Jan 5, 2024 12:38:48 GMT
Especially if we lose at Barnsley. It will show on a pro rota basis that there's hardly been any improvement in points per match since Barton. And if the reason was ' we are not in the top 8 '. Why do it if you can't give the new manager any additional resources. Either the current squad isn't good enough for top 8 or it is and results will improve . If results improve then the board is correct . If not and there are no additional. Then it's baffling!. It's a bit soon to start looking at PPG imo, but... We were 17th when Barton was sacked. Played 13 games, earned 11 points (average of 1.23PPG) Mangs in the interim managed us for 5 league games and earned us 8 points (average of 1.6PPG) We're now 11th and Matt Taylor has managed us for 6 league games and earned us 10 points (average 1.66PPG) Reasons to be optimistic I reckon. Draw away to Barnsley and we will have equalled Barton's points haul for the season having played 6 fewer matches! I thought we had 16 points from 13 games not 11 when Barton was sacked . I stand to be corrected . |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2024 12:41:00 GMT
Denise Coates the richest female in the world, and Britain’s 152nd richest person Lansdown competing with this……..
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There is another one available at the moment. Hard but not impossible 
