|
|
Post by gulfofaden on Jan 5, 2024 7:00:54 GMT
We have a new owner who has come in and:
- sacked a manager decisively as basically mid table league 1 is not good enough for this club.
- Immediately paid for a new stand, giving us probably the best ground in living memory for most. Immediately paid millions as just waiting for “the project” isn’t enough, he wants it NOW.
- Just put his balls on the block and told the world Bristol Rovers want top flight.
This is different, I don’t care if we are called fools. This guy isn’t messing around. Just because he’s not a media guy like Wael doesn’t mean anything. Judge the man by his actions and his actions from what I can see are overwhelmingly positive.
Another gem from Taylor in a recent interview was when he kind of scoffed and said “any team playing away to Bristol Rovers should find it a hard fixture” or words to that effect.
This is the most self-respect this club has ever shown itself and I’m all for it. Screw the naysayers, ambition good. If you don’t believe you can; you won’t.
|
|
|
|
Post by gashead1981 on Jan 5, 2024 7:27:04 GMT
We have a new owner who has come in and: - sacked a manager decisively as basically mid table league 1 is not good enough for this club. - Immediately paid for a new stand, giving us probably the best ground in living memory for most. Immediately paid millions as just waiting for “the project” isn’t enough, he wants it NOW. - Just put his balls on the block and told the world Bristol Rovers want top flight. This is different, I don’t care if we are called fools. This guy isn’t messing around. Just because he’s not a media guy like Wael doesn’t mean anything. Judge the man by his actions and his actions from what I can see are overwhelmingly positive. Another gem from Taylor in a recent interview was when he kind of scoffed and said “any team playing away to Bristol Rovers should find it a hard fixture” or words to that effect. This is the most self-respect this club has ever shown itself and I’m all for it. Screw the naysayers, ambition good. If you don’t believe you can; you won’t. Just to correct one of your remarks. The stand was an ALQ production and it's been financed through a high interest lender set up long before the AS bought in to the club. The interest is somewhere in the region of £200k PA. If AS had a better level of finance available or was "paying" for it I'd expect that loan to be refinanced or paid off to save some money in interest. |
|
|
|
Post by daniel300380 on Jan 5, 2024 8:01:07 GMT
We have a new owner who has come in and: - sacked a manager decisively as basically mid table league 1 is not good enough for this club. - Immediately paid for a new stand, giving us probably the best ground in living memory for most. Immediately paid millions as just waiting for “the project” isn’t enough, he wants it NOW. - Just put his balls on the block and told the world Bristol Rovers want top flight. This is different, I don’t care if we are called fools. This guy isn’t messing around. Just because he’s not a media guy like Wael doesn’t mean anything. Judge the man by his actions and his actions from what I can see are overwhelmingly positive. Another gem from Taylor in a recent interview was when he kind of scoffed and said “any team playing away to Bristol Rovers should find it a hard fixture” or words to that effect. This is the most self-respect this club has ever shown itself and I’m all for it. Screw the naysayers, ambition good. If you don’t believe you can; you won’t. Just to correct one of your remarks. The stand was an ALQ production and it's been financed through a high interest lender set up long before the AS bought in to the club. The interest is somewhere in the region of £200k PA. If AS had a better level of finance available or was "paying" for it I'd expect that loan to be refinanced or paid off to save some money in interest. Even the richest clubs in the world takes it loans too finance stadium build. City did, it's standard practice because you get help when doing that. The loans are paid off by the rich clubs afterwards though. That is standard practice and not just in football. |
|
|
|
Post by bluecamel on Jan 5, 2024 8:15:24 GMT
I’ve been attending - supporting the Gas since 1966, I will always believe we have the potential to be a Premiership club, and the fan base to support such a venture. Ambition is good, but be warned, it can also break your heart - let’s hope we see the promise land - while I’m still breathing 😉 UTG
|
|
|
|
Post by gashead79 on Jan 5, 2024 8:21:44 GMT
Poor interview and a PR disaster. My Mrs worked in PR. There's a strict rule. Never answer leading questions, never answer open questions and only answer direction question with the minimum amount of information. HAS fell right into the interviewers trap here. "BR have never been in the PL can you take them there?" The reply should have been: That would be a dream wouldn't it? Is it achievable? Well who knows? Let's try and get to the championship first and we're making plans on how to get there and be sustainable there first. That interview came across as it's January, there isn't going to be much movement, we're not putting money into this year, let's smooth the cat and make the fans feel all gooey about us to placate the lack of action. I could be reading it wrong, but that's exactly how it came across to me. Your point's might be valid and I tend to agree slightly. However this interview is not exactly a big deal. The audience is our fans and who is going to be affected by it? It's not worth making a big deal or micro analysing imo. |
|
|
|
Post by percy on Jan 5, 2024 8:22:26 GMT
PR disaster? Haha. Some fans make me laugh.
Poor interviewing meant we didnt really find out much though
Would really like an update on the behind the scenes structure and plans, shouldnt need an interview for that - just tell us.
|
|
|
|
Post by gasheadontour on Jan 5, 2024 8:26:16 GMT
We've had great strikers such as Jason Roberts, Marcus Stewart, Jamie Cureton, Barry Hayles. Gareth Taylor, Steve White, Paul Randall, Rickie Lambert, Nathan Ellington, Gary Penrice and none of those promoted us to the Championship. We need a great squad.
|
|
|
|
Post by gasheadontour on Jan 5, 2024 8:28:23 GMT
I had thought the loan for the South stand had been paid off as part of the takeover?
|
|
|
|
Post by socrates on Jan 5, 2024 8:49:14 GMT
We've had great strikers such as Jason Roberts, Marcus Stewart, Jamie Cureton, Barry Hayles. Gareth Taylor, Steve White, Paul Randall, Rickie Lambert, Nathan Ellington, Gary Penrice and none of those promoted us to the Championship. We need a great squad. Very good point. JCH might score the goals to win us promotion but I doubt it as the rest of the squad will still be mid table / upper half , and even then we’d almost certainly get smashed in the championship. Taking the club forward involves much more than just finding one 20+ goalscorer. But I do however think that we’re in a better position than we’ve been in a very long time to do that. |
|
|
|
Post by gasheadontour on Jan 5, 2024 9:08:28 GMT
Of the current squad I think only LT, HV, CM and AE would have a chance of getting in the 89/90 matchday squad.
|
|
|
|
Post by singupgas on Jan 5, 2024 9:22:27 GMT
It's good to hear I suppose.
But it the club have set themselves up now. The stadium plans for the rest of the ground will give a good indication on how serious of comment that was. You don't just get to the Premiership by luck, club needs to be ticking in all aspects. Have they really set themselves up, how else could the owner answer such a pointless question? The new owner could hardly say no! Of course. When being asked a leading question, that will obviously result in ridicule, give a politician answer and answer a different question. The headline of "We believe we can get to the premier league" is exactly what people will remember and laugh at. I'm all for the ambition. But as they say actions speak louder than words. |
|
|
|
Post by chewbacca on Jan 5, 2024 9:26:17 GMT
Of the current squad I think only LT, HV, CM and AE would have a chance of getting in the 89/90 matchday squad. Like comparing chalk and cheese, two completely different games. |
|
|
|
Post by gashead1981 on Jan 5, 2024 9:46:30 GMT
Just to correct one of your remarks. The stand was an ALQ production and it's been financed through a high interest lender set up long before the AS bought in to the club. The interest is somewhere in the region of £200k PA. If AS had a better level of finance available or was "paying" for it I'd expect that loan to be refinanced or paid off to save some money in interest. Even the richest clubs in the world takes it loans too finance stadium build. City did, it's standard practice because you get help when doing that. The loans are paid off by the rich clubs afterwards though. That is standard practice and not just in football. Of course you do, I'm in business and use finance all the time. But not from sub prime lenders. Any finance you take you build into a ROI cost over a set period of time and you want that finance to be as competitive as possible to maximise your ROI. I was chatting on the OF yesterday and said if we sold 2000 seats over 23 games and each of those 2000 seats spent £10 on matchday additions that would give you around £1.5m in takings. So it takes 3.5/4 seasons to pay off. I was then pulled and said relying on 2000 extra punters was quite generous. So we'll have to see if our average attendance will go up but at the moment it's a big white elephant of a stand which will generate no additional revenue apart from match day tickets. Now not every part of the ground will earn you additional revenue. That is why the design of the North and East is so important to get right they will be the additional earners. Which makes using a sub prime lender for the south even more....difficult. |
|
|
|
Post by gashead1981 on Jan 5, 2024 9:47:10 GMT
I had thought the loan for the South stand had been paid off as part of the takeover? Can you find any evidence of that because I can't. |
|
|
|
Post by stuart1974 on Jan 5, 2024 9:48:55 GMT
I had thought the loan for the South stand had been paid off as part of the takeover? Can you find any evidence of that because I can't. Iirc they said we were "debt free" but nothing otherwise. |
|
|
|
Post by gashead1981 on Jan 5, 2024 9:54:30 GMT
PR disaster? Haha. Some fans make me laugh. Poor interviewing meant we didnt really find out much though Would really like an update on the behind the scenes structure and plans, shouldnt need an interview for that - just tell us. You don't even say you're going to win a game, let alone win 2 promotions. Remember how Barton used to do the opposition team talks for them? Because he used to say how poor the opposition squad was compared to ours! Remember the "Europe in 5 years" comment from LJ that we all laugh at? It was much the same. My first reaction was, 9 points off the play offs with a game in hand and only "a little bit of business" in the Jan window and you want to get to the prem! We need a striker, a left back/LWB, a centre half and maybe another midfielder and we're not going to get all of those when we're in a decent position, but you want to get to the prem? You have been here 6 months, what's your plan to move us forward? Not a plan that says you're going to get us to the prem, but an actual plan, a business model, one on paper that everyone can buy in to? It sounds like we don't have one to me and we're pipedreaming our football manager success to the fans. |
|
|
|
Post by gashead1981 on Jan 5, 2024 9:55:45 GMT
Can you find any evidence of that because I can't. Iirc they said we were "debt free" but nothing otherwise. Our balance sheet reads that currently because the stand finance won't be in the accounts until this years. That'll be the one that tells us but we won't see that until July/August. |
|
|
|
Post by lastminutewinner on Jan 5, 2024 10:01:33 GMT
PR disaster? Haha. Some fans make me laugh. Poor interviewing meant we didnt really find out much though Would really like an update on the behind the scenes structure and plans, shouldnt need an interview for that - just tell us. You don't even say you're going to win a game, let alone win 2 promotions. Remember how Barton used to do the opposition team talks for them? Because he used to say how poor the opposition squad was compared to ours! Remember the "Europe in 5 years" comment from LJ that we all laugh at? It was much the same. My first reaction was, 9 points off the play offs with a game in hand and only "a little bit of business" in the Jan window and you want to get to the prem! We need a striker, a left back/LWB, a centre half and maybe another midfielder and we're not going to get all of those when we're in a decent position, but you want to get to the prem? You have been here 6 months, what's your plan to move us forward? Not a plan that says you're going to get us to the prem, but an actual plan, a business model, one on paper that everyone can buy in to? It sounds like we don't have one to me and we're pipedreaming our football manager success to the fans. Its pretty clear to me now that Barton was ousted due to off the field reasons. To sack someone because they expected to be challenging at the top end of the league, and then say little business will be done in January is rather conflicting. |
|
|
|
Post by stuart1974 on Jan 5, 2024 10:25:41 GMT
PR disaster? Haha. Some fans make me laugh. Poor interviewing meant we didnt really find out much though Would really like an update on the behind the scenes structure and plans, shouldnt need an interview for that - just tell us. You don't even say you're going to win a game, let alone win 2 promotions. Remember how Barton used to do the opposition team talks for them? Because he used to say how poor the opposition squad was compared to ours! Remember the "Europe in 5 years" comment from LJ that we all laugh at? It was much the same. My first reaction was, 9 points off the play offs with a game in hand and only "a little bit of business" in the Jan window and you want to get to the prem! We need a striker, a left back/LWB, a centre half and maybe another midfielder and we're not going to get all of those when we're in a decent position, but you want to get to the prem? You have been here 6 months, what's your plan to move us forward? Not a plan that says you're going to get us to the prem, but an actual plan, a business model, one on paper that everyone can buy in to? It sounds like we don't have one to me and we're pipedreaming our football manager success to the fans. The LJ comment was following a question about where will City be in 5 years so LJ chose to say that, this interview was a loaded question and he answered. Personally I'd be like you and caveat the response with "let's get to the Championship first" but that doesn't mean he answered it badly, just different. |
|
|
|
Post by Kingswood Polak on Jan 5, 2024 10:33:48 GMT
That is a few minutes I won't ever get back. Learnt the square route of f all. RIP Journalism. In all fairness he was being led by the interviewer. |
|
