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Post by gasincider on Dec 5, 2020 23:17:18 GMT
As I was mentioned, I think it only fair to reply. Someone has posted that Wael heads a bank. No he doesn't. LJG talks b*ll*cks all the time so can't be bothered with his inane ramblings. With regard to whether or not Wael has cleared the debt, its simple. Let him come out and say so, and when he did it. As for the charge on the Mem? In fact, when Wael made his announcement about the debt being cleared, the rapturous welcome that he got on here was something to behold. I stated that there was no benefit to us clearing the debt as it made no difference to our position, unless Wael was looking to offload the club ( not the stadium, just the club). I was pilloried for that, and now low and behold, the couple of hundred accountants on here are now using that fact in defence of their previous raptures. It's a bit like all you guys out there ( you know who you are) who were saying how great all the signings were, and then when Garner was rightly sacked, and he should have been at the curtailed end of last season, they now heavily criticise them. Wael s spokesman on here (1981 for those who don't know) seems to be showing up a split in the boardroom. If you look on his twitter feed, he confirms we are the richest club in league1 and that Tisdale should never have been appointed. I can only assume that as he represents Waels views on everything, Wael must have confirmed his wealth to him, and that Wael did not want Tisdale appointed. So if Starnes appointed Tisdale, the writings on the wall for him now. We've even had the suggestion from a moderator that criticism of the board in general, and Wael in particular should not be allowed. Isn't that how dictatorships begin? If everyone in the boardroom are yes men to Wael, that is a mighty dangerous position for our club. Someone has to be able to query daft decisions without fear of being removed. Hence why 1981 should never become a fans director. He would just agree everything without querying obvious errors in the decision making. As for Swissgas, well, it's obvious that he is being criticised by some on here simply because they don't understand the nuances of finance and legal requirements in the UK. The moderators on here are out of touch. They think that because 20/30 regular posters on here back everything Wael says or does, they have the backing of the fans for their point of view. I suggest they look at Twitter, Facebook, and other forms of social media. Wael is not the villain that people on here try to pretend that people like me and Swissgas etc are supposedly saying, he has quickly fallen into the same trap that Nick Higgs did, namely ' it's my money and I will do it my way'. Nick failed, and now Wael is surrounding himself with yes men. What he needs to do is appoint people that are prepared to challenge him on his ongoing philosophy for pushing this club up to the championship. If everybody around him just agrees with everything he does he will think he is infallible. And that he AINT. You say I’m Wael’s spokesman and agree with everything but also post that according to my Twitter feed that I don’t agree agree with Tisdales appointment. Which I don’t. So that means I don’t agree with everything out owner does... I wouldn’t say all the mods here are out of touch. We all think you’re a bit of a bitter old berk. Which I would say puts them right on the pace. So he also speaks for the moderators.
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Post by gasincider on Dec 5, 2020 22:00:42 GMT
Wael is fully aware of what is put on here.
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Post by gasincider on Dec 5, 2020 21:58:35 GMT
Add that GI latest conspiracy that the Wael wanted the SC to pay for a training ground for the youth team... Swiss, you have been banging this drum since August on the other forum and you haven’t bothered to contact Wael or Martyn to raise your concerns. You say you asked Taylor Wessing but they didn’t come back to you. That doesn’t really surprise me. If I was a fairly big company, I wouldn’t waste my time with a supporter of a football club that lives in America and never goes anyway. It was for the rent pal. As for Swissgas not being worthy as he lives in America, does that make me more worthy than you as I go to all the games, but you don't? What a childish response. It wasn't Wael who asked, but someone you know very well.
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Post by gasincider on Dec 5, 2020 21:12:15 GMT
Add that GI latest conspiracy that the Wael wanted the SC to pay for a training ground for the youth team... Swiss, you have been banging this drum since August on the other forum and you haven’t bothered to contact Wael or Martyn to raise your concerns. You say you asked Taylor Wessing but they didn’t come back to you. That doesn’t really surprise me. If I was a fairly big company, I wouldn’t waste my time with a supporter of a football club that lives in America and never goes anyway. It was for the rent pal. As for Swissgas not being worthy as he lives in America, does that make me more worthy than you as I go to all the games, but you don't? What a childish response.
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Post by gasincider on Dec 5, 2020 21:06:51 GMT
As I was mentioned, I think it only fair to reply.
Someone has posted that Wael heads a bank. No he doesn't.
LJG talks b*ll*cks all the time so can't be bothered with his inane ramblings.
With regard to whether or not Wael has cleared the debt, its simple. Let him come out and say so, and when he did it. As for the charge on the Mem? In fact, when Wael made his announcement about the debt being cleared, the rapturous welcome that he got on here was something to behold. I stated that there was no benefit to us clearing the debt as it made no difference to our position, unless Wael was looking to offload the club ( not the stadium, just the club). I was pilloried for that, and now low and behold, the couple of hundred accountants on here are now using that fact in defence of their previous raptures. It's a bit like all you guys out there ( you know who you are) who were saying how great all the signings were, and then when Garner was rightly sacked, and he should have been at the curtailed end of last season, they now heavily criticise them.
Wael s spokesman on here (1981 for those who don't know) seems to be showing up a split in the boardroom. If you look on his twitter feed, he confirms we are the richest club in league1 and that Tisdale should never have been appointed. I can only assume that as he represents Waels views on everything, Wael must have confirmed his wealth to him, and that Wael did not want Tisdale appointed. So if Starnes appointed Tisdale, the writings on the wall for him now.
We've even had the suggestion from a moderator that criticism of the board in general, and Wael in particular should not be allowed. Isn't that how dictatorships begin? If everyone in the boardroom are yes men to Wael, that is a mighty dangerous position for our club. Someone has to be able to query daft decisions without fear of being removed. Hence why 1981 should never become a fans director. He would just agree everything without querying obvious errors in the decision making.
As for Swissgas, well, it's obvious that he is being criticised by some on here simply because they don't understand the nuances of finance and legal requirements in the UK.
The moderators on here are out of touch. They think that because 20/30 regular posters on here back everything Wael says or does, they have the backing of the fans for their point of view. I suggest they look at Twitter, Facebook, and other forms of social media.
Wael is not the villain that people on here try to pretend that people like me and Swissgas etc are supposedly saying, he has quickly fallen into the same trap that Nick Higgs did, namely ' it's my money and I will do it my way'. Nick failed, and now Wael is surrounding himself with yes men. What he needs to do is appoint people that are prepared to challenge him on his ongoing philosophy for pushing this club up to the championship. If everybody around him just agrees with everything he does he will think he is infallible. And that he AINT.
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Post by gasincider on Nov 29, 2020 18:59:28 GMT
Garners boys come good -Need to win Wednesday against League Opposition Can't believe this. It was bloody awful. We don't know how to pass, and the defence must give our keeper nightmares. As for scoring 6, well Darlington gave us 4/5 of them. This team is only kids, but it doesn't stop them looking the worst team since we dropped out of the league. And I don't blame the kids either. This is all down to the appointment of a joker as manager, and who was shown to be unable to manage. I just hope Tisdale can sort it out in January and get some experience into the side. That can be started by bringing back Ogogo.
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Post by gasincider on Nov 29, 2020 18:52:01 GMT
Can anyone clear up budget issues. I know 2.5 mil is our maximum. However under fair play rules . It states " any money from fa cup runs are excluded from budget cap ". What does this mean ??. So far we made about 100k from cup runs . No chance? We've earned prize money of £41k in the FA Cup and £20k from the Mickey Mouse Cup. Next to nowt from the other cup.
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Post by gasincider on Nov 29, 2020 18:47:42 GMT
Can we also assume that the capitalisation of the debt is also due to the pandemic? A bit more clarity around that situation would be appreciated. Of course it's not, so why hasn't it been done? Strange how many on here were quick to say well done Wael for clearing the debt, now it doesn't seem to matter. Any chance you could ask your mates in the SC why they can't just do the AGM online, like most other organisations not stuck in the dark ages seem to have been able to manage? Why don't you join and ask it yourself?
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Post by gasincider on Nov 29, 2020 18:46:36 GMT
Strange that a bloke who has pretensions of being a fans director won't show willing and ask it himself. Mind you he probably knows the answer as Wael tells him everything. While on the subject, if you can get yourself to ask him, ask him who owns the club as well! I’m not the fans director am I though, so I have no authority to ask anything on behalf of anyone or for myself, and if I did, there is no guarantee I would be told anything and if I was, I would more than likely choose not to post it here anyway. On the subject, Wael said he is going to do it, I’m happy to wait for that to be done and if he doesn’t I’m sure he will tell us why. That’s where me and you are different GI, I don’t need my ego massaged to the extent that I need to come on here and blab anything I may know and I also have a bit of patience for some things to come to fruition without shooting my gums off at the owner and making myself look numpty. But you carry on. I’ve always wondered why people like you and Swiss, expert financial advisors and accountants with a high regard for our club but a low regard for the people running it, don’t put yourselves forward for the fans director position so you can hold these people to account yourselves and satisfy your delusions of grandeur at the same time? Do you really need to be authorised (by whom) to ask anyone a question? You dont need to come come on here and blab what you know? Not bad for someone who put players wages on here. So if you were fans director and the owner told you something, you wouldn't repeat it here. So what use are you to the fans? Someone has to hold the board to account and if you can't do it, why stand? Beside which, any owner would know to only tell you what can be repeated. If he was to ask you not to repeat something, then you refuse to go along with it. After all, you would supposedly be the FANS DIRECTOR.
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Post by gasincider on Nov 29, 2020 11:57:19 GMT
If by yes men, you mean men who agree with the direction the club is going then i suppose you are correct, but is it not better to have every one pulling in the same positive direction than having constant complaining and moaning about every decision taken as is the case with ,(and i am sorry to stray into politics buts its the best analogy i can think of, ) Covid strategy where every one thinks they have a better plan instead of getting behind what we are trying to do? I have been wondering what happened to the s/c elections though, any one know? perhaps that subject needs a new thread?My assumption is they've been delayed because of the Pandemic. A bit more clarity around the situation by the SC would be appreciated though. Can we also assume that the capitalisation of the debt is also due to the pandemic? A bit more clarity around that situation would be appreciated. Of course it's not, so why hasn't it been done? Strange how many on here were quick to say well done Wael for clearing the debt, now it doesn't seem to matter.
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Post by gasincider on Nov 29, 2020 11:54:11 GMT
I like the way that Gorringe and Widdrington have earned the trust of Wael and their places on the board through their performance at the club. Widdrington. Isn't that the guy who is as culpable for the farcical changes in playing staff as Garner? Nice to be rewarded for failure. But then we have a history of that.
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Post by gasincider on Nov 29, 2020 11:52:23 GMT
Can anyone think of a reason why it was announced in June that the club’s debt to Dwane Sports Ltd had been cleared through a capitalisation of the loan when that had not actually taken place ? And why over five months later, according to Companies House, the loan to Dwane Sports and their charge over the Mem is still in place ? Has it been decided to abandon the debt clearing exercise and if so why has no announcement been made ? Swiss you have beaten that drum on the other forum for months and you still haven’t bothered to ask that question of the club? Why not? Or are you going to avoid that question like the presidents club ignore the one about how many members they have? Strange that a bloke who has pretensions of being a fans director won't show willing and ask it himself. Mind you he probably knows the answer as Wael tells him everything. While on the subject, if you can get yourself to ask him, ask him who owns the club as well!
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Post by gasincider on Nov 14, 2020 20:08:24 GMT
Just occurred to me that as Wael s choice has now gone, perhaps it will be Starnes turn to pick one. In which case it will be DerekAdams. After all he loves his old Plymouth mates. 'God forbid'.
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Post by gasincider on Nov 14, 2020 20:02:01 GMT
I agree - it should be somebody who buys in to the new ethos of how the club will develop as a whole. The new ethos. Play it around the back for about 6-8 passes, then hump it down the pitch. First thing any new guy must instill in the team is not to keep all outfield players retreating to our own penalty area when the opposition have the ball.
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Post by gasincider on Nov 14, 2020 19:58:10 GMT
So BG has gone and we all eagerly await the next managerial appointment. I would like who ever gets the job to not dismiss some of the things the team have learned. on the floor, passing the ball has to be the part of the way we play. Woukd hate us to change drastically and go back to long ball as this, IMO, would be a step backwards. Thoughts my darlings ? This is obviously a joke post. Since when did we give up the long ball? Did you watch any of the games this season? What we need is some experience in the team, but the clown we've just got rid of did the exact opposite and got rid of most of them. Now we are stuck until at least January.
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Post by gasincider on Nov 14, 2020 19:50:25 GMT
Two obvious choices are Chris Hargreaves or Flynn at Newport. The problem with regard to Flynn, is that next season both us and them may have swapped divisions.
Whether we like it or not, we are stuck with the players we have, and that's before wondering how much compensation we would have to pay Newport to get him,
I do wonder though as to what thought process was behind the appointment of Garner. It was obvious after last season ended that he wasn't up to the job. Then people say it wasn't his team. Well, that team got up to third in the table, and a bloody good job it did, or he would have relegated us then. Then, to compound it, he is allowed to blow our budget this season when he had already shown he had no idea.
I see Cotterill has been mentioned. That really would prove the lunatics are running the asylum.
Whatever happens, please don't involve Chelsea.
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Post by gasincider on Nov 14, 2020 15:55:11 GMT
Time for the infamous Garner hairdryer to come out at HT And when he finishes doing his hair tell him to f... off. Wait much longer and we will be to far adrift. When can we get Ogogo back? When can we get some experience in up front?
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Post by gasincider on Nov 2, 2020 13:21:10 GMT
I don’t think anyone is saying get rid of Ben now. The tone has switched and its more a case some of us still aren’t sure about him but probably wouldn’t go as far as to say sack him. If they did, they’d probably be WUMs Best have a word with your fellow moderator gashead1981 then. By the way, Koiki has also cost a fee.
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Post by gasincider on Oct 26, 2020 18:23:27 GMT
So why has Wael decided to spend £2m/3m+ plus on a training ground and also clear £18m of the club's debts, he must surely have a plan to recover some of that outlay? A new stadium is the final piece in the jigsaw. The stadium is the only thing that matters. No stadium, no football club. Are you saying that Wael has paid out £18m to clear the debt? How do you know that Wael has forked out £2-£3m on the training ground?
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Post by gasincider on Oct 26, 2020 18:20:03 GMT
One company is in pole position to purchase the site.
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